Hi,I am starting to feel like a bad person. I get depressed when friend asks for a favor. Which doesn't happen to often....but I am not handling well.
Here is my situation.
My mom has been living with me last 10years,she is 80years old , in good health and she is on her best behavior. Since she is not bedridden,may be I won't qualify as a caregiver yet....
But living with her is taking a toll on my emotional well being.
I also have a 3years old toddler and a jusband.
When I get asked to babysit friend's toddler, I get depressed.
If I say 'no' I feel guilt, if I say "yes" I feel resentful.
In general, I just no longer able to handle favors for friend.
Since my mom is in good health, and I'm a stay home mom, I have to say I DO HAVE PLENTY OF TIME to do a favor or tow for others.
But I just don't have a hart to do it.
Is this normal? I feel like a jerk ...
Yes, Margeaux is right about this person asking favors. If you really tune in to her, you may very well find she is asking many favors from others as well. These kind of people I believe really have no clue how to be a friend and probably have no real friendships with others that last more than a few months before they are "friends" with someone new. It is a drain of your time and energy having to maintain a relationship that is high maintenance and certainly not worth it for you and your family. A big hug to you for doing somethings for yourself, you deserve it♥!
The sun is shining beautifully through my garden window right now as I post.
I couldn't agree more with Sharynmarie about how few and far between the REAL friends in life are.
I find it interesting also, that in some cases while we are trying to maintain, learn about prospective friends, sometimes can be so time consuming. This ex-friend I wrote about w/physical disabilities, when I first met her I realized that she by the very nature of her conditions, would need assistance if one chose to be her friend. She was blind, when we first met and later regained her eyesight. She was also suffering from brain fogginess. Later, she regained her sight. But her condition, is such that she will always have to completely be in touch with her health if she is to function normally, or her health can get compromised.
Anyway, as I got more acquainted with her, because of her physical disabilities, I somewhat felt at a loss about her behaviors at times. Although I was aware that she was in great need, but then I'd notice she'd start to ask for other favors too, not only of me, many others.
On one occasion, she, asked me, whether she could use something regarding advertising concerning my husband, on her website. I was a bit shocked at this kind of a request. Honestly, I became annoyed, at her nerve. But then politely explained, that, "NO," I don't think my husband would agree to something as such, as it had to do with copyrights, and well when you hand something over to people to post on their websites, who knows what links those may be attached to etc. Legalities.This was the truth about the matter. She then called my husband up a few days later on his cell phone to ask him the very same thing. I was beyond myself with this woman!! I had listened to her many woes for several years now about her health, financial problems, been her friend. I felt very stupid and betrayed. I finally realized, that even in situations where someone is needy by the very nature of their physical abilities, we must be careful, if these people start to tread on our boundaries, and ask us for inappropriate favors, under the guise of a friendship. I finally also was separating some of what SHE called brain injuries to plain out aggressive and overbearing behaviors. .
In you case Andypandy, this is what I noticed and may have missed earlier, is the playdate and the baby sitting. You will really have to separate out the two of these. But honestly, how could a person who is a friend ask you for baby sitting , also given you have your elderly mother and your own baby? So try to tune in to other clues with this person. This is what I realized in my situation, because these people can really drain us of precious time and energy.
Happy Memorial Day! Love & Light, Margeaux
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Thanks for suggesting "community service or internship programs for graduation" I am not sure if anyone can get a benefit from talking to my mom(since she is 80) ,but this is soemthing I have never thought of! I know the high school have her language program, so there is a slight chance this might be possible, since my mom does have plenty time to talk to someone if they want or choose to. I read your profile, I am very surprised that you do take care so many elderly people! I am also very encouraged by the fact you are in school. At 47(me), I was kind feeling like my life is pretty much set in so many ways and too late start something new(because I am too old...,lol), but to hear you are taking classes makde me feel, nothing is to late! As you mentined above post, just in case "controversy" may happen to me, I hope to work bettering myself to keep my mind occupied with good things and to find strong self.So I can handle a little caos here and there.
It's almost like dating....LOL. It takes time to get to know someone.
Adult day care is a wonderful suggestion, if my mother could speak English....
Thanks for mentioning massage school, I used to get very inexpensive($15 for one hour! ) massage from school, I need to get back doing something like that again.
sharynmarie: "unfortunately "true" friends are rare", it is so true. and I totally understand how you felt in your situation too! When there is "them" it is probably worse. I think I'm in the middle of learning hard lesson.Thank you for sharing your story with me. I am trying to take it easy on myself so I can be more cheerful and communicable to my family. Right now my house is a kind of jumble mess but I'm ok with it.
Just until very recently mom's older sister, who was 93, was also living there, until Jan., she passed away. They had lived together for many years already, and before, my aunt became more confined to the house, and before mom's diagnosis for Alzheimer's, mom still drove. They had been part of a senior center for over 14 yrs. But in the last few years this all came to a complete halt. They now were home bound. Especially last year, mom didn't want to leave the house, and didn't get much exercise, because she didn't want to leave her sick sister behind. Now that her sister is gone, we are doing different things so mom can get some mental and physical stimulation, instead of being only watched by the caregivers.
Anyway, I was just thinking about this aspect with your mom. Do you have the Chinese channel, or some kind of broadcast, she could entertain herself with, and even if you are there with her and your baby during the day, it could relieve some of the time in which you mom could distract herself, and also be alone. Even if you are there with her, think of things to would enable you to accomplish this. Does she still read? I do know you've mentioned about her eye.
We bought mom some super easy puzzles, to get her mind occupied for a bit.
At first, she engaged in it. But a week ago, I asked her if she'd done any puzzles, and she said, she didn't want to do any. Oh well, all we can do is try, right?
So if you keep an open attitude like this, maybe it could help the perspective aspect of this.
We too, have a 6 mo. old baby in the picture. My sister (main caregiver's daughter)
made my sister a grandma. Now the baby comes a few times a week to mom's and the caregiver are also watching my great nephew. Our mother is so happy and distracted with this. Hugs! Margeaux
I totally understood what you were doing when you wrote all of the details about what you feel towards your friend asking for favors. Doing this does make one put their thoughts down, and get it all out of their system. Some people even do this on paper, then burn it up.
I had this friend, who used to ask me for favors. Quite honestly as time went on in our friendship, the favors, in my opinion became too assuming of me and my time, needless to say too demanding. The reason i was saying yes, or keeping silent, when in fact I should have been more assertive with her, is #1. "I was afraid if I said no, it would ruin the friendship, or something like that." #2. My friend was a very demanding person. I too became resentful when she would ask me for these favors, as I felt "how dare she ask me for that kind of a favor." I would not ask that kind of favor of a friend. So, feeling resentment, brought attention to the fact that there was something lacking in me, as if I could not stand up for myself. The other part of it, the fact that my friend had a variety physical disabilities. While I was always helpful, assisting where that was needed, some of the favors asked of me as time went on that became too much, had nothing to do with her physical disabilities. They were about her mis-management of money. She lived way beyond her financial means.
Eventually, I had to give this friendship up. It ceased feeling like a friendship.
I feel better for it also.
I realize it is difficult trying to balance a friendship, especially if this person does provide for you social and some kind of an outlet from your responsibilities at home. But, this person should not make you feel bad, If this is what is happening, nor should you put all of this on yourself. You are by no means a jerk. You do, and have had this responsibility having your mom living with you, for 10 years. Now, you have a baby! So just try as other posters have suggested, saying no. If this friend reacts negatively, then it sounds as if your friend is missing the whole point about what a true friendship should be. A true friendship should not be based upon favors. Be nice to yourself, Love & Light, Margeaux
So, thank you for reminding me and I think it is great you still are here in the caregivers forum and helping people like myself and others!
When I'm in the middle of the doing ,sometime it's hard to see things clearly.
bandit8it: I am glad to hear your husband have friends. We do have small Asian community here but most of people there are a lot younger than my mom(80). I am glad at least she have few friends who speaks her language , they go to lunch or come over to the house here and there( about twice a month, I know it is not enough but everyone have their own lives too...)
Today was about my 9th therapy session. Since I have never been to therapist before this, it probably will take a bit to get hang of it. And to even know if she is a fit or not.
Today, my house was a mess all day. I usually like to tidy things up a bit here and there but i decided to focus on being nicer (which means to talk to her in my case, instead of avoiding her......) to my mom. It was still a short one here and there but it was a lot better than what's been for a while.
Thank you so much everyone !
Yes, the language suggestion was offered as something that might make your life and Mom's easier, but only if Mom was inclined to learn, and the classes were available...I am aware of the social friendships that develop in those classes and really saw it as having benefits for all, but it is a moot point if they are not available where you live. At 80, I also give Mom a pass if she doesn't want to learn English. I don't think it's disrespectful...if she was 21, sure. But at 80, I respect her past, and the difficulty of trying to learn English now.
I like the idea of other friends who speak her language that she could socialize with, but I'm guessing that you have looked into that. Are there any religious or cultural organizations or other avenues for meeting people who share Mom's language that you haven't tried?
My husband developed friends at the brain injury program he attends, and it has been a godsend, as he developed outside interests and supports. Friends pick him up and take him out for coffee, to breakfast, to a basketball game. In having those friendships, he did not mind my having friendships or supports, either.
Therapy DOES take time, but it is also about fit. LIke friendship, there are some people you can talk to easily, and some who you will never feel fully able to open up to. Andy, if you trust your therapist, but just haven't gotten where you want to be yet, that is one thing, but if you still have second thoughts, or aren't fully comfortable after even 3-4 visits, maybe the fit isn't so good. The right therapist feels like someone you can trust completely. Sometimes that is like a best friend, sometimes like a supportive parent or relative, sometimes like a mentor or teacher, but always, it should feel comfortable, relaxed, and safe. If it doesn't, the person may still be a good therapist, but may never be right for YOU.
You are a kind and thoughtful daughter, and a caring mother, but no one can be those things 100% of the time. It's impossible. Give yourself a pass. Give yourself permission to have a bad day once in a while, or to NOT want to spend time taking care of someone. You are human. It's a hard job. Most people don't understand. The people here do.
It's a beautiful day here in New England this morning, and the birds are singing. Sending a dose of sunshine to all you lovely ladies (and any lurking gentlemen caregivers who pop their heads onto the board).
Good morning!
If you are going on a rampage for 24 hours when you social friend asks you to babysit, then that's over the top. Meaning it's an over reaction. I think it's hormonal, but talk to your doc and keep telling your friend no. After you tell her no, try to picture a cookie jar, put her and your reaction to her in the cookie jar and put the lid on it. Take a few minutes to sit in a quite place, close your eyes and visualize this. Maybe you should take some meditation classes. It could be very helpful to you as it has been for so many others.
Andy: Every day give your mom a hug and thank her for helping you and being in your life. Tell you sweet child how much you love her and that she is the light of your life. Tell you husband that you need his support and that you are taking steps to understand more about your self.
Love and blessing to you. Cattails.
Her motivation to live....is probably ME and my child. But I know I really need to step up and be more communicable towards her. That's the main reason I started to go to counseling. I know I'll regret a lot.... Tomorrow is my counseling day, I hope to see the something. I mainly talked about my friendship problem in this thread, but all and all it was a good reminder about my mom. So, thank you again. I have read your profile, and "but we carry on." really got me. I need to do that But CARRY ON.
jeannegibbs: I need to try to be "happier, more satisfied person. " I will try and trying might help me in many ways. I know I do need to change or figure out my hormons(!) going rampage about friend , it freaks out my husband. He just can't believe how I can go off such a deep end for 24hours just from"favor".
I now realize, I was very lucky to have a healthy baby at 44! I never planned to have a child ,so it was a total surprise to me. Now I wish if I started a lot earlier, and I probably wanted to have at least one more,LOL.
I am glad to hear, may be I have an extra stress from toddler, I often feel that too.
Thank you so much for all the help and wonderful advices and friendship here online. I really appreciate. And it was nice that I didn't have to waite many days to see replies.
But definitely she is lovable just the way she is, and she doesn't need to change to be a wonderful part of your family. Just as you are wonderful, too, and only need to change to the extent that it will make you a happier, more satisfied person.
Certainly you don't need to change because you are selfish or a jerk!! You need to change to be able to prevent others from taking advantage of you without feeling guilty.
My mother had my youngest brother when she was 44. When I hit 44 I thought OMG -- mother was pregnant at this age. Mother was starting all over again with the diapers and the midnight feedings and soon the PTA and the school conferences ... OMG. I think that having a baby in your 40s has its built-in stressors that we can handle more easily in our 20s. It might be the most wonderful thing in the world to have that baby. It might fulfill your life's dream. You may have zero regrets about it. But it still adds stress to your life. And having your wonderful mother live with you may be exactly what you want, but there are still stresses associated with it. I hope your therapy sessions can help you deal with the stressful sides of your family situation.
Good luck to you and keep us informed. We care!
I don't know where you live, but if there is an Asian community near by, take your mom and your daughter there for a day out. I'm in Washington State and we have a huge Asian community in Seattle. Even if you have to drive a couple of hours, just go for a day and enjoy your heritage. It will be fun for your daughter and your mom will feel respected and proud.
Just some thoughts. Cattails
I appreciated everyone's helpful idea and suggestion towards my moms English problem. But I know she don't have much left to try(And I feel bad about it, because it is very unrespectable of her to be that way since she did choose to live in this country,she should of tried a little harder...)
"She is a nice woman, just the way she is and she loves you and your family. She is kind and well behaved. What more could you ask for?" That made me teary....I need to focus on positive, and forgett the baggage.
Cattalis,thank you and I really need to re-focus my life.
Focus on the people you love and feel blessed with you find a true friend. You don't need a lot of them and most of us only have a few. They are that rare.
Can I also add that I don't think you should push your mom to learn a new language or go out of her comfort zone too much. She is a nice woman, just the way she is and she loves you and your family. She is kind and well behaved. What more could you ask for?
I was going to mention the hormonal issue earlier, but didn't because some time it offends some folks. If you are having hot flashes then you are in the beginnings of menopause. Go to your doctor and see what can help.
You have a lovely family. Dump the baggage and enjoy the love that life has given you. Lots of hugs, Cattails.
jeannegibbs: Yes, that is the exact point,as you said. Just as soon as she backs off and I feel OK , she comes back with reminder. I guess I just have to take your advice and keep saying "no" . Number of the contact is pretty much diminished to once or twice a month of 3minutes phone call from her to say "Hi" or "favor". And thanks for a note that you think playdate and babysitting is not the same. May be I was not imagining on that one.
JudymW: Sorry you felt you were dumping zone... It has been helpful to see others have similer problems. I don't have 4kids like you, but others see me as stay home mom with built in babysitter...probably.
If they find out all I do is to "check on my invisible friends on web", ....they might start to talk to me on the web,when I don't answer the phone call,LOL.
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You are right that a playdate is very different from babysitting. You have a perfect right to decide what you are willing to do for other people. This is not being selfish.
Just say no.