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Screaming, I pray for blessings for you in your new life, whatever it may be, and I hope you will soon be able to change your screen name!! I was apparently composing my post right when you were letting us know your plan A changed to getting out ASAP which makes plenty of sense under the circumstances!
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Bookluvr: Oh, believe me, I'm being extra careful. 95% of my time is spent either in my room or out of the apartment. The rest is either in the bathroom doing bathroom-y things & the kitchen. I watch TV when she's either napping or sleeping. However, it doesn't stop her from coming into my room & starting things. So far it's been relatively quiet for about a month, but then again, this is what happens after I end up calling the police.

Thanks to you & Eyerishlass for the job suggestion. I'll check into it.

AlwaysMyDuty: I'm feeling your thoughts here. I really needed them. Thanks.

I'll keep all of you posted...hopefully not from a shelter. We'll see.
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Screaming, your situation is just too tragic for words. Your grandma is proof that abuse doesn't just happen to the elderly. I'm so sad for you. I hope things get better for you soon. You sound like a survivor. There is help out there and I hope you've found it by now. I wish you the best and would be interested to know how you're doing. Your experiences in overcoming your abuse may help the next person in a similar situation and I have no doubt there are many people in your shoes as sad as that is to say. Keep the faith. You're in my thoughts.
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Hi Screaming,
Oh, your father knows what his mother was doing to you! Those words he said was to only pacify you. He knows that his mom is not going to become “pals” with you. Remember, your mom went thru it, too. I hope he keeps your promise of keeping your wherabouts a secret.

Your situation is dangerous. If you have read enough on this site, you will find that the elderlies have a legal right to abuse us. Why? Because they’re not all there in their head. Whereas we are sane and “should know better.” I’ve read of one poster who had so many bruises from her mother, documented at the hospital – and still nothing is done. But if you even defended yourself physically from their assault, they can press charges against you for elder abuse. Please be very careful between now and when you leave.

I was thinking the same line as Eyerishlass. Since there’s a lot of medical places there, just apply at the bottom and work your way up. Learn everything – even those that have nothing to do with your job description. Give it a try. Do baby steps. And it doesn't have to be caregiving. You can try data entry - just type data from paper to the computer, etc....My niece took nursing class and is now working at an optical store (as an aide/assistant). My baby sister took nursing and is also an assistant for an eye surgeon. My niece was under govt subsidies and food stamp at the time she was taking nursing classes at the local community college.

Like Jeannegibbs, can you update us once in a while? Otherwise, I will think you moved to the shelter and keep wondering what happened to you.
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Vstefans: Thanks. I'm not going to involve myself any longer with what's going on with my grandma. Since my uncle's finally sucking up to her (which he's never done until now) he can deal with it. I did, for a while, think about getting some cameras installed around the apartment, but the issue is that everything is white, & there's nothing to hide them behind. In any case, I'm done.

Eyerishlass: Thanks for your comment. Right now I'm so burned out that the thought of caring for someone else is beyond me. I've had offers to do this, but I've turned every single one of them down. I need to focus on getting to a normal head space since I've been living in fear of her since November. Most of my responses are exaggerated (jumping/flinching at loud noises or when she comes into my room, shaking so badly afterward that it triggers my tendonitis, extensive/excessive crying jags, etc.), which is why I need some time.

Jeannegibbs: I posted an update a couple posts above your own. Thank you.
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You need to get out ASAP. With or without your cat. With or without a new job. Obviously the ideal is to get a job and find someplace you can have the cat, and I hope that happens, but the first priority is to leave and to take care of yourself. I say this for your sake. You deserve a chance at a decent life and decent future. But I also say it for your grandmother. She needs more help than you can provide her. She may well have dementia, but whatever she has is beyond your skills to deal with. If you leave something else will have to be done for her, and we can all hope it will give her more peace.

I hope the state agency will be able to help you very soon. Please keep in touch here. We all will want to know how this unfolds for you.
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Dear Screaming,

You are obviously intelligent. You write well and are grammatically correct. I don't know what kind of job pays $30/week but I could make more than that being a prostitute and I'm 44 years old and no great shakes. You deserve to make more and I have no doubt that you are capable of doing well at whatever you do.

Your grandmother's a loon and I'm glad you're getting out, glad that you are doing what you have to do to get your life back and not letting a cat stand in your way. When you get settled you can get her back or start over and adopt a darling little kitten to celebrate your new independence.

I think your dad just doesn't want to be involved. It sounds like his head is stuck in the sand and his advice to be patient is both anemic and impotent. That is obviously not the approach that is most effective with his mother. I wonder if he has been cowed by her his entire life.

You're doing the right thing. I don't care what the circumstances are, no one should live in fear and you are very brave for making the necessary arrangements to get yourself out of that toxic and dangerous environment. The day you leave close the door and don't ever look back. I think it'll be the best thing that's ever happened to you.

And there are tons of jobs in healthcare without having to be a nurse or a Dr. You could be a Patient Care Technician at a local hospital, kind of like a nursing assistant and you will make more than $30/week! Choose a hospital then go to their website. Look for jobs available most likely on a drop-down menu and you can scroll through the jobs available at that hospital. The job will be listed plus the educational level required among other basic information.

You're making good, healthy, and sane decisions. You can't go wrong!
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Screaming - I think you mentioned a fairly abrupt or acute onset to the truly horrible psychotic-level behavior - there is a chance that something medical is causing it, possibly as simple as a UTI or other infection. Getting diagnosis and treatment for an uncooperative person may be no picnic, but hopefully the social agencies can get a home health nurse in there to try to do a little exam, collect some labs, etc. You are also probably right on target that Dad does not want to face reality here, and because of the distance, he can get away with that. Possibly, some cell phone videos or audio at least of the verbal abuse or psychotic material could help you with the eventual guardianship that may need to be done.
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An update: I stayed in a shelter for 3 days in March. She went to several people & told them lies & I got threatened with a restraining order. That's why I went to a shelter--I was so scared.

My uncle (her younger son) believes her lies now, even though he should know me better than this. We have no contact. He ignores me completely when he visits, & I try to pretend he doesn't exist. We had 1 argument over the phone in April; my grandma kicked me & I called the police on her. They warned her not to touch me, that if they heard from me again she'd be arrested. Elder Services came the next day & basically said they "understood" why she kicked me (?!) & proceeded to treat me like a 5 year old who doesn't understand her precarious legal position.

My uncle has taken my dad's position (described in my OP). Whatever he tells her, she does. There's no communication between him & my dad, although it's not for lack of trying on my dad's part.

My dad cancelled his wedding because of all that's happening with us, & with what his fiancee's going through with her aging father as well.

I found a foster for my cat, & she's taking wonderful care of my baby. I miss her so damn much.

My mom & I have, surprisingly enough, gotten closer. It turns out that a lot of the things my grandma has done to me was also done to her over 30 years ago. The only thing new, she said, is the physicality (her being very physically aggressive).

I gave my landlord notice of my impending move that's coming up in 1 1/2 weeks after I called the police on her. I have nowhere to go--still--after several months of searching. Elder Services told me they didn't see "proof" of my progress in the moving--I laughed...bitterly...at that. My bedroom was empty but for the pieces I was selling, my suitcases packed with my clothes, & the absolute necessities (my bed, alarm clock, computer, & printer). Everything else has been put into storage. Suffice it to say that I've received no help from them since my grandma told her lies.

I phoned my grandma's doctor to beg her for the last time to get her tested... I eavesdropped on a phone call she made & she mentioned her doctor wanted her brain tested but she's refused--as she's done all other times.

At this point, I'm pretty positive that I'll be going to a shelter on June 1st if I don't find somewhere to live before then. I've exhausted everything else I can think of for help, & I don't earn the minimum the transitional housing places require to rent an apartment from them. Family & friends can't take me in, subsidized housing lists are closed, etc. I'm advertising on Craigslist for a room but I've just gotten perverts replying to that. So...a shelter is pretty much the only option I'm looking at right now.

My grandma keeps pitching little fits & demanding to know where I'll be going, & she gets even angrier when I tell her it's no longer any of her business. I don't give a d@mn anymore. My father has been sworn to secrecy, & so has everyone else. When I move, the new address will be given to my parents & siblings, & a couple close friends of mine. That's it. My father knows that the woman society calls my grandma is no longer a real grandma to me. I've washed my hands of her. After I get out, she'll no longer exist to me.

In the meantime, I'm still on a couple medications for depression & for anxiety. I hope the anxiety medication will help me stop picking at the skin around my nails, as well as the skin on the sides & soles of my feet & around some of my toenails. (I'll spare you the pictures.)

I've been in therapy for a few years & it's been a complete lifesaver during all this. I honestly don't think I'd be here if it weren't for my weekly therapy sessions.

Thanks so much for all your comments. If you have any other suggestions or ideas on what else I can do to find myself a place, please do so.

Thanks again.
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No one can take my cat in, for the very same reasons they can't take me in.

I don't know the contents of the will. For all I know, I might get a little something. I might just get nothing. I really just do not know, & frankly, I really have no interest whatsoever in knowing what's in her will. I just know what my grandma wishes to have happen to her things (i.e., her jewelry, assorted knick-knacks, various furniture, etc.) after she dies. (Divvy it up between her sons & her 4 grandkids--6 people total.)

If I put a lock on my door, it's a violation of my lease. I have nowhere else to go. I don't even have a car. :(
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I know you love your cat, but you are more important. Can your dad take the cat? Your dad has to do something asap, he is using you. You have to understand this. He was severely affected by HER too and therefore has washed his hands of the problem and gave it to you. I did tell my son and daughter about my mother but they refused to believe me and coped with it knowing that she soon would be dead and would get all the money. In fact, I believe that my son threatened my mother in her old age to change everything to him and nothing to me or he would leave and put her in a assisted living home. This she would never do. So, she left everything to him. I believe that after 10 years with this woman, he could not take it anymore and did something to her that night to kill her. They do not do great autopsys for 94 year olds who have congestive heart failure. You are not like my son and besides, everything is going to your dad and other relatives, nothing to you. There is nothing in this for you, barely a safe room in the house without a lock. Put in a bolt lock, that is doable. If the management complains, leave, sleep in your car, anywhere but there. Your father must do something asap, give the problem back to him as he is getting all the money!!!!!!!
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Littletonway:

Locks on our bedroom doors are forbidden in our apartment building (policy; designed for people 55+). I know--I BEGGED for one to be installed.

I have nowhere to go. I have very few friends--2, in fact. Both cannot take me in. All family members are poor/have a territorial dog/health issues/other valid reason, so they can't take me in either. I've considered going to an emergency shelter, but that'd mean I'd have to leave my cat here, & that's something I'm not willing to do. I do not want my grandma to begin abusing my cat because I'm not here to be her punching bag.

I earn roughly $30/week at my job. They cut our hours because Corporate said we didn't meet any of the goals they'd set for my store. It's the first job I've had in 4 years (laid off); hopefully you can understand my reluctance to quit before finding another job. I live in an area rife with hospitals, & that's where all the jobs are. I have no medical training or I'd be all over those jobs. Spending a few years in school when I most need to leave the house is counterintuitive & counterproductive.

The state agency I spoke with said I might be eligible for some sort of grant, but I won't know more until I get assigned a caseworker & speak with them in more detail. They are fully aware of how urgent my situation is, & they are working very hard to get me out (assuming they can help me do so) ASAP.
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You need to get out of this situation ASAP! Give your Dad a move out date and get busy making it happen. Let him know you are coming home (if he lives in your family home) and he needs to make arrangements for his Mother's care. Do you have a relative or friend you can go to on quick notice?

This is not a job for a young person. Your family is expecting you to give up your life and future. Sounds like your Grandmother needs professional care.

Hopefully you have installed another lock on your bedroom door so you can sleep at night.

Best of luck and God bless!
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I also think your dad knows how his mother really is and you are the patsy.
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Try a room. A room in a house. That is way cheaper. Anything to get away from her. It looks like you will not get a penny, like I did. I served my mother well for 51 years but of course, never gave her a cup of tea. My son was like a husband to her and very strange, he is the carbon copy of what my father looked like. They basically lived like husband and wife for 10 years. My son is like a child as he has never worked and just goes fishing now and rides a trick bike around nyc at the age of almost 30. I do not get it. I do not understand why he was in the hospital at 10pm and that she died that night when she was cleared to come home. I believe there was foul play and that there is much more to this story that I do not know. All my stuff was still in her basement as I moved up here very quickly. She did not allow me to come and get the rest of it but sent up stuff I did not need in a van. What is in it for you? nothing. You can get a room for about 75 dollars a week, work in McDonalds, anything, just to get out of there. Start a life of your own before you do not have one. I started my life at 51, way too old and lost everything for leaving my mother at that age. She did not need caretaking. She drove, went to the hairdresser weekly, went out 6 out of 7 nights and had dozens of friends who comiserated with her about her lousy daughter, ME.
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(I wish we could edit our posts instead of making new ones.)

As to my grandma's will, I have no idea what's going on in it. From the very beginning, I've told her I don't want to know what's in it. I just know what she wants us to do with the things she has (divide it up equally between her 4 grandkids--all girls--after my dad & uncle go through & take what they want first). Aside from the knowledge of where she's hidden the will, that's all I know.
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Joymoon, I'm so sorry for the anguish you've been put through.

I do not know why my father doesn't want to step in. I guess he doesn't want to believe that his mother's going downhill fast? Not sure. It doesn't help that my uncle (his brother) has once again pulled a disappearing act. No one knows where he is & he refuses to get in contact with us. That may be another reason for his reticence.

I wish I could leave--I've tried everything. No one in the family is able to take me in due to various reasons; the Emergency Section 8 housing list is closed; & I don't make enough money from my job to support myself even in a rent-controlled apartment. As a last, desperate, measure, I contacted a state agency in the hopes that they'll be able to help me find a place to live while simultaneously helping me find a job that'll support myself because I'm coming up short.
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I live with my grandmother. My dad lives an hour & a state away. It feels like he lives here though because my grandma only listens to him. He can say something once & she'll remember it forever, but I can say something to her 15 times & she'll still forget. She's escalated in her sexist tendencies (existed before, but never this bad). I can't even talk to her anymore because she refuses to listen.

My father's under the delusion that our problems "will work themselves out" even though I've warned him many times that they will not.

She refuses to tell anyone she has problems. She won't let me go with her to the doctor, & refuses to let them talk to me, so all they can do is listen. She lies & says she's "fine" when anyone asks.

I have begged my father to do something about her escalating behavior but he keeps asking me for "more time & patience."

Hopefully, now that Elder Affairs has gotten themselves involved, my grandma will be forced to accept help that she's refused & rejected for years.
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This sounds like what my mother did to me and why I left her. Within a year she had my 17 year old son go down and live with her. He seemed to get along with her(I guess she did not know about drugs and things he was doing) but as time went by, she totally convinced him that I was a terrible daughter and mother to him(she even tried to get child support from me-and lost as he was not in school and too old). Whenever I called from 150 miles away, my son would get on the phone and yell at me telling me that I would upset "Grandma". He drove her to all doctor appts and to her precious Eastern Star meetings and spent 2 weeks a year with her up here at her summer house. I was not allowed to go there or my son would call the police and threaten to have me arrested. They then refused all my phone calls and let me talk into their tape machine. It was horrifying for me as I am a only child and I thought she was my best friend(she had me very confused about this my entire life). The last time I saw her alive was when she allowed me to sit on her porch and bring my birthday cake down-I was 60- and she gave me exactly 10 minutes of her time with me before she had to go in as she was getting ill. My son sat in the house and refused to come outside or and she did not allow me inside the house to see him. When she passed, my son did not tell me for 3 days. He had told my daughter and ex husband but not me. I had no way to get to her funeral. My son told me she had passed away in the hospital when he stepped out of the room for 10 minutes at 10PM at night. Again, I was horrified. Then the funeral director wanted me to sign papers for the funeral as I was the only next of kin, I refused till I could speak to my lawyer. My lawyer told me not to sign the papers or I would be liable for the funeral bills. They then had a quick burial and a memorial service at her new church. She changed religions the last 5 years of her life which is very strange to me. What was even more strange was that she left me nothing in the will and gave everything to my son. It was substanial-like over 2 million dollars. To this day, my son refuses to speak to me. He did have an autopsy done as she was to leave the hospital the next day. I do not have the death report or the autopsy results. Lawyers told me to forget about getting any property of hers as she had her will done at a lawyers office 2 years before she died and cut me out entirely. Please get out of this situation before it causes you more mental and physical pain. Why doesn't your dad want to take care of her? There must be a good reason. What is in her will, does everything go to your dad and nothing to you? Sounds strange.
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I gather that your grandmother is living with you and your Dad? It appears that she has anger issues and possible dementia requiring medication. This can help tremendously if she is going to continue living in your home. Otherwise, might be time to find another place for grandmother as it sounds like it is only going to get worse.

Hugs to you and take care.
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