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I’m good enough at it to know I can always learn something new! Perhaps frustration enters in and I give up too soon. I’ll manage by asking questions, no doubt. Charlotte
If you want to be certain AgingCare is seeing your problems or suggestions you should follow the link under the logo on the new site "Give Feedback", or scroll to the bottom of the page on either site to find "Contact Us".
Charl, "Redundant"? Who cares, the squeaky wheel gets the oil!!
Try going to the thread in the "discussion" section, called "The new AgingCare site, do you like it". It was started by Polarbear. Which would be easy to find if "lostinthemix's" suggestion was applied.
Anyway, AgingCare follows that thread for suggestions. Maybe they can assist you in navigating the site. It's worth a shot.
Clark, go to the top blue bar and click on "Ask a Question". On the far left you will see a list of topics, click on the topic you want to review, lot of questions. Oh, this is on the old format website that I still use.
If you are using the new format [lot of green/blue background] you will see a grey bar going across the page that says Care Topics.
Hi Charlotte, Do you see up in the top far left hand corner of your screen, there is three horizontal lines? Click on there and there's a search box. Just put in some key words about a question you're wondering about and older questions pertaining to that subject will come up.
Or if you're looking for your own questions, go to profile and hit "activity" your previous questions are there.
About the site: is there an index of questions so we don’t repeat ourselves? As for finding comments,there are often so many comments posted I can’t find my place within a conversation. Sorry. Charlotte
Wow....what were we talking about here? I can’t keep track so I’ll just throw in my 2 cents worth. I’m not particularly high tech but I do believe my smart phone or laptop or desk top, (I do pretty much the same on all of them) îhas helped me stay moderately sane especially through this recent forced home stay I’ve been on the last couple months. It’s amazing I can learn about anything, I can research drugs and symptoms in depth, I watch videos of my old favorite rock bands, I take my phone with me in the garden and look up how to care for some of my plants. When I hear our president make a stupid statement that “everybody knows” I can find out what “everyone” thinks about it and the history of the issue at hand. Most of all, I’ve found real people, in all of you, with insights in this most demanding job I’m doing that have kept me going and not running away with the screaming Mimi’s and abandoning my poor old Mom, but you also helped me to bite my tongue when feeling angry and frustrated. I found my inner voice of compassion and a reminder of what I’m really wanting to do here and how I want it done and a focus on who I’m doing it for. I thank you All and no, I can’t live without my smart phone. I don’t know anybody’s phone numbers, I have every appointment, lists of all our medications, dates of every medical procedure we’ve had done, projected budgets, ‘to do’ lists that don’t get done, model numbers of our major appliances, ten gigs of music, shopping lists, books I’ve read, books I’m looking for, questions for the doctor, sizes we wear, birthdays I can’t miss, details about my dog, how to make origami, or favorite recipes, and on and on on. I mean it is an endless source of information that I am completely dependent upon. Like it or not. Thank you for being here. That’s my 2 cents worth. Charlotte
cmagnum, big screen user here, too. Mainly because my old flip phone isn't Internet ready. If it was, I would need to carry around a magnifying glass :P
I'm not on here as much as I used to, but i have been here a while. As such, I don't have much to say about the current version or the upcoming new version other than it is different. I can find it, read and respond to in on my desktop, my laptop or my smartphone, but I prefer my desktop with the big screen.
CWillie, respond to the original poster and disregard my earlier question. I should have started my own thread with that one. I apologize to the O P for highjacking this thread.
CM, just a quick comment. No, I haven't seen the Oil movie, and given the quality of Lewis' acting, I probably missed a good film. (I have seen Age of Innocence multiple times and sometimes luxuriate in thinking how much more realistic, less pompous, less restrictive and less condemning life is today than it was during that period of rigidly enforced social norms.
Most of what I've learned about the Robber Barons was through documentaries, of JP Morgan, Edison and Tesla, and at this moment I've forgotten which other ones.
There's also an excellent Fortune article with several pages of information on competitors in specific fields, including Gates and Jobs, Edison and Tesla, and I forgot who else right now. It was worthy of saving, which I've done. I think that might be good reading in connection with this thread.
But, the heat wave being in temporary abatement, I have no excuse not to get some work done. And though it's not a siren call, it's one I must heed.
GA there is a whole essay in there on models of entrepreneurship. I hope this won't make me unpopular with absolutely everybody...
I do not believe you have to be an arse to be successful. Or clever. Or a good leader. I do not take kindly to academics and journalists who, frankly, wouldn't know a day's work if it walked up and bit them seeing fit to take wealth creators to task for lack of social responsibility. *Especially* as the reason they tend to focus on the more colourful types is that it sells papers. The greater number of dull, constructive industrialists and bespectacled patent holders we never hear about. This our media are pleased to call 'investigative journalism.' By investigative, they mean 'the interesting bits.' I do not either think much to wealth creators who believe they have a licence to make an appalling mess of people's lives without either need or recompense.
Did you ever see - oh clever, I've forgotten the flipping name of it now - that film with wotsisname, Day Lewis, sigh... There Will Be Blood? About the oil magnate? I haven't, I'd like to, just wondering if it might fit in with your ponderings?
Gershun, I know it must be hard answering the same questions over and over, but we must remember that we are not going through the same as everyone else.
I feel sick to my stomach every day. I know it has to do with my mil's care.
Pepsee, yes, words hurt, ESPECIALLY when you are looking for answers. I still feel lost, but I feel like I know the answer before I ask the question, I guess we are just trying to get other feedback to make sure we are not making a mistake.
I DO hope that EVERYONE has a great week...and we all get out alive. I would say and be well, but it is too late for me, but I hope you all are well.
Back on topic - is anyone having trouble with the forum?
Pages load slowly, it's hard to get to my profile and messages, and occasionally the site freezes. I tried opening in another browser; same problem. I thought it was due to the holiday as typically that's when the little gremlins crawl out and wreak havoc, but the holiday is already over.
I haven't reported I yet as I still do get good responses most of the time.
Sorry - I was responding to your "old before your time" post.
I confess to hijacking the thread, but just couldn't resist linking the robber barons to the tech barons and climbing again on my nontechnical soap box (made from an old orange crate).
Maybe it would be a good idea if Gershun starts a new thread; it's a good and worthy topic to discuss.
Carbon footprint, or indeed rare and precious elements footprint, stomping all over the more frightening regions of the Democratic Republic of Congo among other less privileged corners of the globe.
I was of course exaggerating a little. I'm as fond of new toys as the next person, provided they come with a sensible instruction manual or - preferably - a customer advice line so you can ring up a real person and say "what, pray, is my Manual Tuning code, where am I supposed to find it, and how was I supposed to know that?"
What makes me twitch and clear my throat is hearing friends-and-relations wittering on about how they "need" their iPhones and tablets and how "everybody" does "everything" online now.
No, you really don't. No, they really don't.
Mind you. Where would I be without the internet and AC? Sucking my thumb and twirling my cowlick in a dark corner of the sitting room, that's where.
CM, I was thinking about a similar issue, on a different level though, after watching part of a PBS program on what were known derogatorily here as Robber Barons. I don't defend them, but they did provide national services and products in critical areas: electricity, banking and finance, and more. Their aggressiveness, motivation, determination (and probably what would be considered unfair or manipulative tactics) did help industrialization and drive the US forward.
I'm especially fond of Tesla's and Edison's inventions (although from what I read he capitalized on Tesla's work) - I like having electric lights, and I especially like fans and central air. Both have raised our standard of living, as have trains, autos, banking and more.
Yet today the Robber Barons would probably include people like Zuckerberg, Bezos, maybe Jobs and Gates, although the latter two are far more technical people than the two former ones and easily arguably provided more to world infrastructure than the former.
But consider how many millions have jumped on the tech bandwagon, all the way from SmartPhones that cost more than a washing machine or refrigerator, or little robotic devices that give weather updates. How useful are these tech advances? They're not in the categories of advancing medical or infrastructure - those are developed by others not quite so famous (or infamous).
Sometimes when I'm asked why I won't buy a SmartPhone and I respond that I need the money for more critical things, like a dryer, a new frig, a car with a working defroster, food....they simply don't understand. One of the issues, I think, is the concept that one CAN have everything. Sacrifices aren't necessary as when I was growing up. You can have everything today - just charge it. And help make the Tech Barons richer.
So, as to your frustration, think of it this way: You're still independent, making your own decisions; you don't have to charge a SmartPhone repeatedly, using up more energy, and more importantly, you're not increasing your carbon footprint.
Back to the usefulness issue, I've yet to hear a realistic assessment of how a SmartPhone raises my standard of living. In fact, it would lower it b/c I would have to cut back on something just to afford the cost. I might have to skip a mortgage or utility payment, or, heaven forbid, sacrifice on food or gardening supplies. And chocolate would probably be the first thing to go, and we all know that chocolate is a major food group.
So, when I hear or read of someone feeling uncomfortable b/c of little or low tech literacy (other than computers), I am puzzled as to what I might be missing, as thus far I've seen little value in so much of the tech junk on the market.
And, best of all, I'm NOT increasing my carbon footprint.
I would love to see more unique questions but I guess this forum runs on cycles just like anything else in life. What I asked the first time I posted on here some four or so years ago probably wasn't unique at the time either.
I'm surprised at how little has been resolved in my own mind when I think back over my time caregiving. I relive some of the more difficult moments still and still get that ache in my gut thinking about them.
I would like to think with time comes wisdom and acceptance but I still live with the same regrets about how I handled certain aspects of my Mom's care even though I did the best I could at the time.
I often wonder how I'll think about these same things when I'm old and needing somebody or someplace to look after me. My husband's parents are just starting to need assistance and he comments to me quite often that he can't understand the heartache I went through. He told me once that the love I felt for my Mom is foreign to him and he's never loved like that. Of course, I said the typical wife thing "what, you don't love me?" But, I know deep down inside that he doesn't love me with that unselfish, I'd do anything for you love and I'm not even really expecting him to one day be my knight in shining armor. Romeo and Juliet, we are not.
But, I'd really like to know the deep thoughts caregivers and former caregivers have about their own morbidity and how they think the people in their life will come through for them. What are you all expecting?
Sorry, don't mean to highjack this thread. Maybe answer the O P and throw out some thoughts at the same time if you don't mind.
I have already, today, had to explain to my landlord's agent why the television engineers are coming to fiddle about with the aerial later this week. I had absolutely no idea what I was talking about, I don't know whether she noticed or not.
And now smart phones and news feeds and apps and... oh God I wish I was dead.
Chark, are you not checking your news feed? The latest response to any thread you are following will be there, but you will need to go in to each individual thread to see all of the comments.
Chark, the same material is on the older site and on the brand new site, the only difference is the format. I am currently still using the older site as that is what I have been using to for a number of years. For me, the new format makes me seasick :((
I have trouble finding responses to my questions. I go to my activity but I only see the question I asked. Also if someone responds to a comment I make there’s no notification. The new forum I have to push the top left button each time I turn the page. It’s not difficult just a hassle. I didn’t know the two are separate. I guess o just read whichever comes up initially lol. What have I been missing?
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I’ll manage by asking questions, no doubt.
Charlotte
"Redundant"? Who cares, the squeaky wheel gets the oil!!
Try going to the thread in the "discussion" section, called
"The new AgingCare site, do you like it".
It was started by Polarbear. Which would be easy to find if "lostinthemix's" suggestion was applied.
Anyway, AgingCare follows that thread for suggestions. Maybe they can assist you in navigating the site. It's worth a shot.
We'd hate to lose you due to utter frustration!
Charlotte
If you are using the new format [lot of green/blue background] you will see a grey bar going across the page that says Care Topics.
Do you see up in the top far left hand corner of your screen, there is three horizontal lines? Click on there and there's a search box. Just put in some key words about a question you're wondering about and older questions pertaining to that subject will come up.
Or if you're looking for your own questions, go to profile and hit "activity" your previous questions are there.
Hope this help 😉
As for finding comments,there are often so many comments posted I can’t find my place within a conversation. Sorry.
Charlotte
I’m not particularly high tech but I do believe my smart phone or laptop or desk top, (I do pretty much the same on all of them) îhas helped me stay moderately sane especially through this recent forced home stay I’ve been on the last couple months.
It’s amazing I can learn about anything, I can research drugs and symptoms in depth, I watch videos of my old favorite rock bands, I take my phone with me in the garden and look up how to care for some of my plants.
When I hear our president make a stupid statement that “everybody knows” I can find out what “everyone” thinks about it and the history of the issue at hand.
Most of all, I’ve found real people, in all of you, with insights in this most demanding job I’m doing that have kept me going and not running away with the screaming Mimi’s and abandoning my poor old Mom, but you also helped me to bite my tongue when feeling angry and frustrated. I found my inner voice of compassion and a reminder of what I’m really wanting to do here and how I want it done and a focus on who I’m doing it for.
I thank you All and no, I can’t live without my smart phone. I don’t know anybody’s phone numbers, I have every appointment, lists of all our medications, dates of every medical procedure we’ve had done, projected budgets, ‘to do’ lists that don’t get done, model numbers of our major appliances, ten gigs of music, shopping lists, books I’ve read, books I’m looking for, questions for the doctor, sizes we wear, birthdays I can’t miss, details about my dog, how to make origami, or favorite recipes, and on and on on. I mean it is an endless source of information that I am completely dependent upon. Like it or not.
Thank you for being here. That’s my 2 cents worth.
Charlotte
Most of what I've learned about the Robber Barons was through documentaries, of JP Morgan, Edison and Tesla, and at this moment I've forgotten which other ones.
There's also an excellent Fortune article with several pages of information on competitors in specific fields, including Gates and Jobs, Edison and Tesla, and I forgot who else right now. It was worthy of saving, which I've done. I think that might be good reading in connection with this thread.
But, the heat wave being in temporary abatement, I have no excuse not to get some work done. And though it's not a siren call, it's one I must heed.
I do not believe you have to be an arse to be successful. Or clever. Or a good leader.
I do not take kindly to academics and journalists who, frankly, wouldn't know a day's work if it walked up and bit them seeing fit to take wealth creators to task for lack of social responsibility.
*Especially* as the reason they tend to focus on the more colourful types is that it sells papers. The greater number of dull, constructive industrialists and bespectacled patent holders we never hear about. This our media are pleased to call 'investigative journalism.' By investigative, they mean 'the interesting bits.'
I do not either think much to wealth creators who believe they have a licence to make an appalling mess of people's lives without either need or recompense.
Did you ever see - oh clever, I've forgotten the flipping name of it now - that film with wotsisname, Day Lewis, sigh... There Will Be Blood? About the oil magnate? I haven't, I'd like to, just wondering if it might fit in with your ponderings?
I know it must be hard answering the same questions over and over, but we must remember that we are not going through the same as everyone else.
I feel sick to my stomach every day. I know it has to do with my mil's care.
Pepsee, yes, words hurt, ESPECIALLY when you are looking for answers. I still feel lost, but I feel like I know the answer before I ask the question, I guess we are just trying to get other feedback to make sure we are not making a mistake.
I DO hope that EVERYONE has a great week...and we all get out alive. I would say and be well, but it is too late for me, but I hope you all are well.
Pages load slowly, it's hard to get to my profile and messages, and occasionally the site freezes. I tried opening in another browser; same problem. I thought it was due to the holiday as typically that's when the little gremlins crawl out and wreak havoc, but the holiday is already over.
I haven't reported I yet as I still do get good responses most of the time.
I confess to hijacking the thread, but just couldn't resist linking the robber barons to the tech barons and climbing again on my nontechnical soap box (made from an old orange crate).
Maybe it would be a good idea if Gershun starts a new thread; it's a good and worthy topic to discuss.
I was of course exaggerating a little. I'm as fond of new toys as the next person, provided they come with a sensible instruction manual or - preferably - a customer advice line so you can ring up a real person and say "what, pray, is my Manual Tuning code, where am I supposed to find it, and how was I supposed to know that?"
What makes me twitch and clear my throat is hearing friends-and-relations wittering on about how they "need" their iPhones and tablets and how "everybody" does "everything" online now.
No, you really don't. No, they really don't.
Mind you. Where would I be without the internet and AC? Sucking my thumb and twirling my cowlick in a dark corner of the sitting room, that's where.
Now I REALLY don't understand. I thought we were talking about site functionality?
I'm especially fond of Tesla's and Edison's inventions (although from what I read he capitalized on Tesla's work) - I like having electric lights, and I especially like fans and central air. Both have raised our standard of living, as have trains, autos, banking and more.
Yet today the Robber Barons would probably include people like Zuckerberg, Bezos, maybe Jobs and Gates, although the latter two are far more technical people than the two former ones and easily arguably provided more to world infrastructure than the former.
But consider how many millions have jumped on the tech bandwagon, all the way from SmartPhones that cost more than a washing machine or refrigerator, or little robotic devices that give weather updates. How useful are these tech advances? They're not in the categories of advancing medical or infrastructure - those are developed by others not quite so famous (or infamous).
Sometimes when I'm asked why I won't buy a SmartPhone and I respond that I need the money for more critical things, like a dryer, a new frig, a car with a working defroster, food....they simply don't understand. One of the issues, I think, is the concept that one CAN have everything. Sacrifices aren't necessary as when I was growing up. You can have everything today - just charge it. And help make the Tech Barons richer.
So, as to your frustration, think of it this way: You're still independent, making your own decisions; you don't have to charge a SmartPhone repeatedly, using up more energy, and more importantly, you're not increasing your carbon footprint.
Back to the usefulness issue, I've yet to hear a realistic assessment of how a SmartPhone raises my standard of living. In fact, it would lower it b/c I would have to cut back on something just to afford the cost. I might have to skip a mortgage or utility payment, or, heaven forbid, sacrifice on food or gardening supplies. And chocolate would probably be the first thing to go, and we all know that chocolate is a major food group.
So, when I hear or read of someone feeling uncomfortable b/c of little or low tech literacy (other than computers), I am puzzled as to what I might be missing, as thus far I've seen little value in so much of the tech junk on the market.
And, best of all, I'm NOT increasing my carbon footprint.
I'm surprised at how little has been resolved in my own mind when I think back over my time caregiving. I relive some of the more difficult moments still and still get that ache in my gut thinking about them.
I would like to think with time comes wisdom and acceptance but I still live with the same regrets about how I handled certain aspects of my Mom's care even though I did the best I could at the time.
I often wonder how I'll think about these same things when I'm old and needing somebody or someplace to look after me. My husband's parents are just starting to need assistance and he comments to me quite often that he can't understand the heartache I went through. He told me once that the love I felt for my Mom is foreign to him and he's never loved like that. Of course, I said the typical wife thing "what, you don't love me?" But, I know deep down inside that he doesn't love me with that unselfish, I'd do anything for you love and I'm not even really expecting him to one day be my knight in shining armor. Romeo and Juliet, we are not.
But, I'd really like to know the deep thoughts caregivers and former caregivers have about their own morbidity and how they think the people in their life will come through for them. What are you all expecting?
Sorry, don't mean to highjack this thread. Maybe answer the O P and throw out some thoughts at the same time if you don't mind.
I do not understand. ANYthing.
I have already, today, had to explain to my landlord's agent why the television engineers are coming to fiddle about with the aerial later this week. I had absolutely no idea what I was talking about, I don't know whether she noticed or not.
And now smart phones and news feeds and apps and... oh God I wish I was dead.
The new forum I have to push the top left button each time I turn the page. It’s not difficult just a hassle.
I didn’t know the two are separate. I guess o just read whichever comes up initially lol.
What have I been missing?