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Oh, Lea. I am so sorry about the ativan thing. When my brother had his car accident (which incidentally got him diagnosed with the early Lewys) he was pretty smashed in the head, and pretty wonky. He got agitated and they gave him ativan. And he basically went kind of "mad" on them. He had one of those reactions I used to rarely see as an RN, where the effect wanted turns instead into the exact opposite.
For me, in fact, the benadryl, which puts hubby to sleep at 1/2 tab, makes me restless, with restless leg syndrome and etc. Drugs are just such a mixed bag.
Be real careful about taking ativan in future. From what I can quickly find on internet the half life of ativan is 12 hours, so you might feel a bit of a mess from it for a day or so until its out of system.
Hoping you feel better today.
I guess the awful irony would be to ask "But how was the nausea?" And I DO mean that as one of those awful jokes such as the one which goes "Other than that, Mrs Lincoln, how did you like the play?" I know. Some are out here being prayer warriors and some are telling entirely inappropriate bad jokes. But you know me. AND you know I love you.
What can I say.
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LL, hoping you have a better day today and can get some quality sleep. Praying for you right now.
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LL1,
I am SOO sorry about the Ativan!

I’m praying for you to find a GOOD solution to the nausea! May God give wisdom to your docs.

I wish we could all show up at your house at once and sing through your window and remind you how much your are appreciated here!
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The Ativan was .5 mgs when I only wanted .25. Oh no, says the nurse, that's a baby dose! Ridiculous. Gershun, I'm sure in my condition I had a bad reaction to it. I will NEVER take it again.

I feel horrible today with dizziness almost like vertigo which I'm praying this isn't. The hi dose steroids used to treat vertigo are not something I'd look forward to! I'm using my cane and stumbling around.

The infrequent pain in my right side is not gall bladder related,,that would have shown up on the CT scans w contrast. The liver, covered w cancer, is on the right side.

The nausea is mostly gone and I have Zofran and other ideas if it comes back badly. I wish you could all come sing to me at my window too, but this forum is the next best thing.

Stop biting my lines Alva, "Other than that Mrs Lincoln, how was the play?"🤣😃 is a line i use frequently.

Hope, I like your thinking and will try coconut water.

I've honestly had enough sleep these past 5 weeks that I should be fully healed by now. I'm ready to feel human again and stay out of bed!

Bandy, like Dr C said, life's not fair so we deal with what's on our plates. Let's hope he never has to though, huh? 😑 I'll be the first one to say our entire medical system is BROKEN. AND NO, THE ONCOLOGY NURSE never did call me on Fri as promised. Shocking I know. Not. My vaginal itching is all gone w no treatment too, so so much for a trip to the gyn. Oftentimes I question whether to even call these nurses, tbh. One rigmarole bs story after another. Tomorrow they'll probably conclude I have a brain tumor due to the dizziness and off on another wild goose chase they'll want to send me.

This immunotherapy has a TON of miserable side effects the doc said WOULD KICK MY ASS yet the nurses either dismiss them or want to make a federal case about them. So far I'm not bleeding from my ears so that's a good thing.

Send, I'm sorry you had a bad reaction to Ativan too, but happy to know I'm not alone. I was having bizarre dreams too that night like I was in a funhouse of no fun.

We did go to my son's house today for his and my grandsons joint
birthday. G/s is 2 and son 38. I had to lie on his recliner the whole time, but I made it. My ex was there and chewed my ear off the whole time about how horribly anxious he is about getting a new hot water boiler system installed tomorrow. Really? A man who's gotten clean PET scans for 7 years after a stage 4 colo-rectal cancer dx in 2016??? I told him it's never the stuff we're anxious about that happens. It's crap from out of left field we never imagined happening in a million years. Celebrate your victories and quit sweating the easy stuff. I'm sure it all goes in one ear and out the other bc he's a professional complainer and whiner.

My son had to chat w him 3x about NOT bringing up my cancer w me. I am not in the mood. So right in the middle of a video call with my grandsons other grandma, he yells out OH I HEAR YOU'RE NIBBLING ON POT GUMMIES?? Ugh, my son had a fit and said dad, you're on a sound sensitive recording so please stop. He wound up leaving 15 min later bc he was insulted. Best idea EVER was to divorce this man in 2002.
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Hi Lealonnie, So glad you were well enough to get out and enjoy a family party. Yes, your ex sounds like a jerk, good that you got rid of him. Wishing you all the best. I'm still praying. Take care.
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Lea, ugh, ugh, ugh on the Ativan reaction! It has me wondering if that was the med my dad had once that he took at bedtime as prescribed and then he woke up standing on the bed in a panic, hurling pillows across the room, sweating and confused. He swore it off too and I’m thinking it was Ativan. And definitely glad you traded the loser husband in on a much better model. Prayers continue for restorative sleep, healing, peace of mind, and calm in the storm
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Lea: Hope and pray that your dizziness abates. Can you take the medication, Meclizine? I take that for my presyncope.
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Lea,

Sending love and prayers your way.
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OMG, to be subjected, Lea, to the EX at this time! Any side effects you get today I am chalking up to ex-side-effects!
I guess YOU are where I got the Mrs. Lincoln joke??? I thought only I was perverse enough to love that one. I am a total Lincoln fan. Comes of my Dad taking me yearly to his tomb.
I hope the dizziness abates. So agree with you about medical. Either they make a federal case out of it or negate you completely. Hillary Mantel (author of Cromwell) was dealing with the British system but her whole story about the decades long missing of her endometiosis until it had destroyed her insides was a nightmare read. She basically said that for a woman, if they don't know/can't find what you have they just label you "crazy" and that eventually she actually believed them.
I hope the day is good, the ativan totally out of your system and you feel better. Thanks for the family celebration story as it was another of your gems.
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I read your reply as “No trip to the gym.” Wait, what?? Why would they even THINK of sending her to the GYM? What kind of crazy therapy IS this? She’s in pain, for goodness’ sake!

Took me reading a couple of responses before figuring it out.

No trip to the GYN!! 🤣

I’m moving slowly today, and so, apparently, is my brain!

Prayers continue!
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Good evening, Lea. I hope you are feeling settled, peaceful, rested, and pain-free tonight. May the Lord bless you with good sleep, not Ativan-induced.
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Geaton, your profile is down. Incompetence seems to be the word for today. Sturgeron is not available in the USA unless a sketchy online pharmacy is used and I pay for a doctor consult online. Nope. The nausea is no longer an issue, either, fortunately.

Thanks GG. Today has been none of what you'd hoped it would be for me 😑

I'm still battling what feels like vertigo with tinnunitis or some kind of hearing/balance issues.

I slept poorly again last night and woke up with raging brain buzzes and a fever of 101.5. Chuck was ready to call 911 for an ambulance to the ER, I was that bad. I can't walk without a cane, I can't hear sounds clearly, but I'm not nauseous at least.

The doc said I need a brain MRI and blood tests at the ER tomorrow to see if this is neurotoxicity from immunotherapy! Ugh. Now I'm really worried as this can be permanent AND stop or reduce my treatments.

Jjust the thing I was praying wouldn't happen.
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Lea, I have really positive thoughts about you that the vertigo and what you're currently feeling will subside soon - and I am hoping I am right. Hopefully once the fever goes down, I'm praying that all of the other symptoms will stop too.

We're all praying for you and I hope tomorrow turns out to be a very productive and positive day - and outcome. Sending hugs and positive energy your way
XO
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Lea, will be thinking about you tomorrow as you get these scans. I am hoping there is nothing to stop your therapy. I am so sorry this is another bump for you to negotiate.
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Oh, Lea

I am so sorry. I’m not going to say anything dumb like, ‘stay positive.’ You are entitled to feel anything you want at this point in time.

Of course, we all want the very best outcome for you. It’s natural to be concerned.

I remember when my dear mother in law was suffering tremendously with her cancer. She complied with everything that her doctors asked from her, including traveling to MD Anderson in Texas for treatment. She endured so much.

She prayed continuously for healing. I was the person that she felt that she could express her real feelings to. She knew that I would understand how she felt. One time she said to me, “I asked God if He was listening to me.” She was frightened. Who wouldn’t be?

Overall, she wasn’t one to overly worry.

She was a realist. I loved that about her. I dislike Pollyanna types. They work on my nerves.

Even after my mother in law went into remission for her lymphoma and hit the five year mark, she claimed that it would always be in the back of her mind that her cancer could return.

Sadly, it did return and with a vengeance. She lost hope because she knew that she would die and never be able to see her grandchildren grow up.

She adored my daughter and my brother in law’s two sons. She told me that she had hoped to travel more. It was awfully sad.

Then as time went on, she seemed to accept the inevitable and was at peace. She was grateful for the joyful times in her life.

I was glad that she was ready to meet God.

She adored her father. She was an only child. The family joke was that her mother must have come from a party tipsy on the night she was conceived because she wasn’t the least bit affectionate with her husband.

Her vicious mother treated her like crap all of her life. She came to the conclusion that her mother was mentally ill.

I will never forget her saying to me, “You know, most people learn ‘what to do’ from their mother. I learned what ‘not’ to do from mine.”

She broke the cycle of abuse. She was a wonderful mom to her three sons and a fabulous grandmother. I still miss her.

She died at age 68. Just a year older than I am now. She didn’t get to meet our youngest daughter.

Don’t think that I am crazy but I think she had something to do with my youngest being born. I think she got to heaven and pulled some strings! I have two miracle children.

My mother in law went with us to the adoption agency in Texas to meet her granddaughter. I wish that she could have been there at the hospital when my second daughter was born. I do think that she saw her from heaven.

No one expects you to put on a brave face, Lea. We love you!
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Prayers for the day ahead….
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Sorry you're feeling so poorly! I will be thinking of you and hoping for good results for you tomorrow. Yikes, you're really being put through the wringer.
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Lea: Prayers for some relief, dear lady. Hope that 101.5 fever is gone.
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Lea - extra prayers for you and for Chuck tonight.  “Cast all your anxiety on him because he cares for you” 1 Peter 5:7 ((((((hugs)))))
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Lea what a beautiful picture of you and Chuck.
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Praying for a good outcome today. Stay strong.
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I agree with Sp. That’s a beautiful picture of you and Chuck. Two soul mates.
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LL: Mom used to take Meclizine for her vertigo, and I also took her back & forth to the ENT for them to apply the Epley maneuver. UNREAL what she went through for a few YEARS with it, until she became wheelchair bound and it went away. Her neuropathy in the feet contributed greatly to her not knowing where she was in space, setting it off. I'm not sure I had a 'bad reaction' to the Ativan now, just that ALL meds (anti anxiety/pain meds) are making me super prone to these brain buzzes, is what I call them; where the brain shakes. Its terrible. It's still happening NOW though, with no meds in my system. I just hope the hospital can figure something OUT or they will attribute it to 'neurotoxicity'. The other thing with the vertigo(s) is Nystagmus MUST show up in the eyeballs in order to be properly dx'ed. No Nystagmus (a shaking of the eyeballs) = no vertigo of any kind. Yes, the fever is gone & I've been keeping it away with Tylenol.

Bandy, yes it could be BPPV which is the most common form of vertigo, and what mom had. I did not know it could come on from lying down for long periods of time which IS INDEED the case for me. IDK about "PT" of any kind in my condition however. Those sessions are not easy, first off (Mom had quite a few before the PT said she could no longer work with her due to the severity and intensity of her reactions to EVERYTHING.....) I'm just too wrecked for such a thing, so we'll see what they say. Not to mention those 'treatments' were all VERY short lived in her case.

Thanks for the lovely comments on my photo avatar. It seems to me, anyway, that a person should not be asking for prayers & pouring their lives out on a forum without divulging who they are, for real. It's enough I have a phony username.

Overwhelmed, forgive me for neglecting to thank you for your wonderful post to me the other day. Just letting me know that I was personally able to lift someone's spirits and help them during the dog-days of their caregiving journey brings me much comfort and lifts my spirits. Thank you for taking the time to thank ME. :)

NHWM: Thanks for acknowledging my right to feel however way I DO feel. People DO NOT understand or acknowledge that much at all, in general. They feel that if 'you have faith', you're not entitled to feel SCARED. My good friend sent me a scripture this morning saying just that, basically. I give a big fat RASPBERRY to that. I can have faith and STILL be entitled to be fearful, FGS. Such statements invalidate what I'm going through and cause me to pause in speaking my truth, as if I'm committing some sin if I'm ALSO a human being. I don't buy it, sorry, and that doesn't make me 'less faithful or Christian' than the person spouting the scriptures who's never had more than a headache in her life, you know?

If anyone disagrees with that statement above, that's okay, I don't need to hear about it. Or lengthy stories about loved ones who lost their battle with cancer. I KNOW I will eventually lose my battle too, more than likely, but I do not need to hear the details b/c I'm suffering enough already right now.

I'm sitting at my desk in my study which required the use of a walker AND some near falls to get into. But I'm here. And we'll be leaving in a few minutes for the ER which the idiot nurse now says 'won't take direction about what to do for me from THEM, they do as they please." Then advised me to 'advocate for myself at the ER." I plan to go in there and lay it on even thicker than it already IS, so that's my plan to get HEARD and ATTENDED to at the ER. If it doesn't work out, Dr C will have to order a brain mri at his office.

I'm off to the races. (I feel relieved that my mental ACUITY is not compromised here at least!)

I'll post when I get back.
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Your beautiful avatar...............
Your words of wisdom...............
Your Lea-brand-cut-to-the-chase-honesty.................
ALL I TREASURE about you
Has made me weep this a.m.
I am pulling for this to be only more side effects of the therapy. I am pulling for this to be like the fevers, the rashes--just another manifestation of how tough it is to turn up the heat on our immune systems.
Will await words.
To me--for me--you are the wise-woman on this Forum Lea. You always have been; you continue to be. You know that you have the absolute love of us all.
I do know that people who wish to comfort you with their own particular belief system mean only to comfort you, but I do believe they need teaching bad, and you are the one to do it. Someone who is dealing doesn't need our own particular bible study classes heaped upon their head; that can only add to their cross. Because yeah, if I believed there was a heaven where I could play canasta and WIN I might be more comforted in dying, but you know, NOT TODAY. TODAY I will fight for another day right here with those I love.
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Sending you lots of courage and strength and prayers.
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Lea,

Of course, you can still have faith, yet be concerned about your future.

I bet that the majority of people who have cancer are afraid at some point in time, whether they have faith or not.

Even those who do go into remission are usually concerned about their cancer returning. No one knows for certain what their outcome will be.

You wouldn’t be human if you didn’t face the reality of your specific situation.

You’re a realist. You’re incredibly intelligent. I admire those qualities in you.
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From the timing of posts, I’m guessing that you’re at the ER. Along with Alva, and probably a bunch of us, I’m tearing up here, thinking of all you’re experiencing.

I’m praying for the docs to LISTEN and ACT for your benefit, friend. For the wisdom they need to diagnose you correctly. For the floodwaters to recede from your shores already!

Please, when you have a chance, hand the phone to Chuck, and have him read some of this thread and know how much you are treasured here. Tell him to tell your kids. You’ve helped save so many people here from the brink of insanity. We are so grateful for you.

I will be back here, checking, and re-checking for your update.
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Any person of faith, and I count myself as one, who says when faced with a life changing, frightening situation and says they aren’t scared silly, even those who have the comforts of scripture and prayer, are simply lying. Yes, we can have “peace that passes all understanding” and we’re still fully humans dealing with anxieties and fears. Our God understands that, after all He designed us. Off the soapbox now (goodness, soapbox is something my mother said that my adult children would have no clue of!) Still praying Lea, for that peace, and for answers, and for healing
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I've been admitted to the hospital. I have an infection going on, "strokes" have occurred between my mri in Jan and a few weeks ago, and the meclizine they gave me did not help with the inability to walk, but did clear up my hearing issues and brain zaps. They are conferring with my staff doc, oncologist, neurologist , physical therapists, and the Pope is on his way, I hear.
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Lea,

Will most certainly be praying for you. Many, many hugs sent your way! 💗
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