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Clippie Asked May 2014

How to comfort friend and be respectful?

This is actually not a question regarding elder care, but I wasn't sure where else would be suitable to ask such a question, seeing as most people here are faced with really tough issues every day. And this is going to sound horrible. Abominable. I'm not a troll, and I pray I'm not a monster.

My friend married a man who had two daughters already. One has a brain tumor, which has gotten so out of control that she's now blind, and has been on chemo or radiation off and on since she was about four I think. She's almost 10 now. The tumor combined with a cocktail of meds (stuff to keep her from menstruating, stuff for high sodium, high blood pressure, on and on) has left her with a lot of health issues, such as blindness, incontenence (not sure if this is physical or developmental), high blood pressure, high sodium, enlarged heart, etc. She also has severe emotional/ developmental issues-violent outbursts, such as trying to push her father off a cliff while holding his infant son, spraying my friend, her stepmother, in the eyes with various things-febreeze, household cleaner, etc., screaming the "n word" at local shopping malls, theatres, etc., picking fights with kids at school, attacking people, ON AND ON.

They're constantly going to St Jude for more tests, procedures, etc. Needless to say, this baby is just worn out. She can't stop eating, has gained about 30 pounds since Christmas, and has no energy for play.

They've made comments (the parents) about how one day, they expect her older sister to care for her, seeing as she'll probably never be able to be a "functioning" adult.

The reason I'm writing is that they've just found more tumors. In her spine mostly, but more tumors. They're going to check to see if they're malignant as well.

I've tried to support both of them the best I can, but it's hard when I don't understand what they're fighting for. This is what I feel makes me a monster. This little girl is going through hell physically and emotionally every single day for treatment and it often makes her much worse. Her parents know that she'll most likely never have a "normal" life...if she even survives. In fact, a lot of her treatments are just as potentially hazardous as the disease itself. And more painful, from what her stepmother tells me.

It almost seems cruel to me to keep giving her all of these treatments. No, not almost, it DOES seem cruel. But I totally understand the flip side-what else are they to do-let their kid DIE? Of course not-that's cruel as well. I just don't know what's worse. Putting their kid through torment to give her a shot to live a life where she'll be unable to cope or care for herself, or letting her have some stress free years without needles or scans or medicines.

I don't want them to lose their child. I just feel ill every time I hear about a new treatment they're going to do, or how she's losing her hair again, or how they've upped her hormones because her period tried to start again (I think it's a side effect of other medicines), or how they've gone into her head twice now to "whittle" the tumor down (they can't take it all because of where it is).

I keep my opinions about all of this to myself but there's a question that keeps me up at night, and it's one that I fear makes me a monster: What is the point of all this torment on this little girl if they can never "fix" her?

Houseplant102 May 2014
In the case of my 17 year old niece with a fatal liver disease and an unsuccessful liver transplant, family was told quality-of-life is questionable due to all the anti-rejection drugs etc. that must be taken the rest of her life. It was clear up front that she may not survive the transplant. It's gut wrenching to watch a young person's life taken by lingering illness. If nothing is done death is certain. If something is done, there is hope. When to stop the medical intervention and allow the person to die is a call that no one wants to make. Less than 2 years later, our dad died at age 92 and got hospice care the last couple months. I can not emphasize the value of hospice vs. putting someone through unbearable stress and suffering. Between the most basic instincts of wanting to let the person live and wanting to stop the suffering is just a no-win situation when it comes to youth. Our family now realizes attitudes, hopes, and sorrows are so real but so different depending upon circumstances. Everyone experiences the death of the same family member differently and will grieve differently. The only thing we can do is be there for that family or friend or coworker who needs someone to listen in spite of how unpleasant it may be. If a stranger says something along these lines, I've since come to the conclusion that I am being used as a sounding board, an outlet for someone's processing of grief and conflict. I'm still processing our families deaths and am OK with someone's acting like the friend mentioned. It is hard though and sometimes you may have to tell your friend it's just hard to process everything, but that you still care. Of course, I think it is appropriate to gently remind her that you hope the sister is OK too. The big sister is carrying a heavy load.

Clippie May 2014
You know what, lass...I've thougth the exact same thing. What a terrible place for her sister to be in, too. She's 12 and has already been thrust into the expectation of being a caregiver. It makes me sad for her. I've thought the same thing

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Clippie May 2014
My God...I'm so sorry to hear about your own daughter. My prayers go to you.

The tumor she has in her brain is currently in remission-not growing. But the ones in her spine I just found out they knew about, but they are now growing.

It's such a very sad thing for this little girl...but all of the operations and poking and prodding and chemo and everything makes my heart bleed for the suffering she's going through. And I'm not even family. Pam, my heart does go out to you, and to your daughter.

Eyerishlass May 2014
You're not a monster. If you've had these thoughts I'm sure other people have too.

I'm sure this little girl is put through all of these treatments because the parents don't know what else to do for her and they probably think that if they stop with the aggressive, useless treatments they'd be bad parents. They don't know what else to do and I would imagine that the Dr.'s are in the same boat. She's a child so they keep trying even though she'll never have a normal life and will always been profoundly disabled. 30 years ago she would have been institutionalized.

The same thoughts would have occurred to me too and probably this little girl's parents as well.

And I agree with Pam. I would venture to guess that this child will never reach adulthood. And for the sake of the sibling, I hope she doesn't.

pamstegma May 2014
She will not survive. Brain cancer is a killer. The steroids are what cause the outbursts. My daughter is in the final stages of brain cancer. They talk about the future to preserve their own sanity. Listen sympathetically, they are venting to you and that helps them deal with the reality in small steps. Eventually the girl will become more confused, and less ambulatory. She will eat less and finally not at all. Hospice will be offered; they may refuse it at first. The road for them is very short, but it's a steep rough climb and a horrifying descent.

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