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Ksh3377 Asked November 2017

Can I make my dad go in a nursing home if he doesn't want to?

My dad is 82 and recently diagnosed with advanced throat cancer. Because of his health problems there is nothing they can do. He has COPD, emphysema, heart disease, vascular disease, scoliosis, neuropathy in feet and hands, early stages of dementia,and more. (I just can't think right now but you get the idea). He is also an alcoholic. He drinks a 40 oz beer every day. He stays in his riding chair almost all of the time. He can't walk alone and it's very difficult just to help him the 3 feet he has to walk to the bathroom (his chair won't fit into the bathroom). My mom is 76 and has health issues of her own (2 major surgeries on her legs because of vascular disease this year). She tries to take care of him but he still falls at least 1 a week. I have talked to her and told her this just can't continue. She is killing herself trying to take care of him. She has really gone down hill. I have done everything I can to help them. I got help for them for 6 hours a day but can't get anymore help then that. (Can't afford it). My dad won't let them bathe him completely, mom has to wash his bottom. Just doing that wears her out to the point she is short of breath. He is a very selfish man, he doesn't give her a moments rest. Every time she sits down he yells that he needs something (even when the helpers are there) and doesn't want anyone but her doing it. He can't go to the bathroom alone, mom has to hold it and wipe him. He can't barely feed himself. (Oh yeah he is blind in one eye and almost blind in the other, muscular degeneration). I have 5 siblings that don't really help, just every once in a while. I take them to all the doctor appointments and do all the shopping. I need to go back to work for my own family but can't because of all of this. Luckily I have a very understanding husband and we are making do. There is no POA or anything. I have tried to get it but can't. I don't have the time or money to file for guardianship. I have thought about calling adult protective services because I don't know what they will do. One sibling believes they will do nothing because it's my moms choice to live that way and another believes that will take him and put him anywhere they please. I have talked to my mom about this and begged her to put him somewhere instead of them doing it cause god knows where they would put him. If she does it then I think we would have some control over where he would go.
So I guess my question is: What can I do to make him go into a nursing home where he can get the full time care that he needs?
(Looking at the topics, this fits so many of them)

BarbBrooklyn Nov 2017
Thus is going to have to get worse before it gets better. If your parents won't allow you to help (They won't give you POA), then step away and let them manage on their own.

You can send a letter to each of their doctors, outlining what is going on, but I'd step away and stop enabling their dysfunction and "independence".

NomadSE Nov 2017
I have a mantra that I tell myself when I start getting overly involved in someone else's problems..."I won't care more than they do". Meaning that if you care more than the person involved you are just setting yourself up for heartache. Of course this only applies to those of sound mind. But it sounds like your mom is of sound mind. And while it's tragic that she's running herself into the ground this way, you CAN NOT let yourself care more than she does. She has the right to refuse help and she is. So you have to let it go at that. You've tried and it's tragic, but you have to protect your heart and your own family. So tell yourself, "I can't care more than mom does" and try to move on.

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Hugemom Nov 2017
I know you love your parents, but you need to put your family first. There will come a time when your hubby stops being patient and cooperative. If you have kids, they need you. They are your future.
You have tried to reason with your mom and dad and it hasn’t worked. So, what else can you do? Without POA, not much. Why were you not able to get it? Refusal on your parent’s part? The sib who believes they will do nothing is probably right. You can’t force any of them to do anything, so stop trying before you make yourself sick. APS will not stick them in a cardboard box under a bridge, trust me. It sounds like wherever they go would start World War 3, especially with Dad. Just back off. Let them live their lives the way they want. Devote a few hours in the weekend to shop for them. Check to see if your city offers transportation for Seniors and people who aren’t able to drive. Check with their City Hall for information on that. Tell sibs the facts of life, what you will be doing and NOT doing and then go your own way.

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