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tinkerbell50 Asked April 2018

My dad (70yrs old) was feeling crappy all day. He collapsed and couldn't get up for 10 mins, he said his legs wouldn't work. Please advise.

HolidayEnd Apr 2018
Call 911 and ignore his protests. It could be anything but the fact that his caregiving to your mom and he has to be exhausted can’t help.

My mom’s assisted living took her to ER (down the street) when she fell in the middle of the night confirmed she’d gotten up to bathroom and had a TID (tiny stroke) then losing consciousness her forehead and pelvis hit the floor, cutting her head and hairline fracture her pelvis. They got O2 on her quickly and then kept her sedated a day or two. Ultimately she hasn’t seemed to have lost speech but the pelvis was painful.

Get dad on O2, it minimizes the damage in his  brain. ASAP

Wouldn’t he want your mom checked out if it happened to her or to YOU? He’s no different. I hope it’s not serious.

OldSailor Apr 2018
That is basically what happened to DW not quite 2 yrs ago. We struggled to get her up and back onto the bed then I called 911 for transport to ER. Three days later she was sent to rehab and 22 days later she came home and had in home therapy. Never did find out exactly what was wrong.
today I noticed that she is shuffling as she walks. If she gets worse, it is off to the ER again.

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talkey Apr 2018
That happened with Dad his last day in my home. He fell, and we managed to get him up and into his chair. He seemed fine by lunch, making his way to the table with his walker. Then by evening he couldn't get up at all. I took him to the ER the next morning, and he had Influenza B. He spent the next 5 days in the hospital, then went to rehab, and then MC.

CaregiverL Apr 2018
Call 911

freqflyer Apr 2018
Tinkerbell, call 911. Even if your Dad doesn't want to go to the hospital, the EMT's are excellent in persuading a person to go.

When my sig other refused to go after passing out then falling down the stairs, then acting very strange.... the EMT's had a trick up their sleeve.... when reading the EKG, one said he not a cardiologist, but something doesn't look quite right. That was all my sig other needed to hear, he was out the door and walked to the ambulance [no way he was getting on a gurney].

GardenArtist Apr 2018
Tinkerbell, in medicine, there's always a first for something. The fact that he hasn't had a stroke or cardiac event in the past doesn't mean that he isn't going to have one. I'm not trying to be discouraging, or a naysayer, but past history isn't always predictive.

Does he take Toprol/Metaprolol? Any other Beta Blocker? Does he take a BP pill? If he's weak when he stands, he could be suffering from orthostatic hypotension.

Regardless, I hope he's now at the ER and also that you provide an update when you can return to this Forum.

blannie Apr 2018
Yes, your dad needs immediate medical care. Is he able to move around now? He might have had a mini-stroke. You can tell him he needs to be around for mom (if that's the case) and to do that, he needs to take care of himself first. Please keep us posted. Men can be so stubborn!

Onlychild22 Apr 2018
Your instincts might be correct, like others here said I think you should seek medical care, lack of action could have consequences. Let dad read this...
https://www.agingcare.com/articles/mini-stroke-effects-155336.htm

BarbBrooklyn Apr 2018
You call the EMTs and let them persuade him.

Countrymouse Apr 2018
What Snoopy said, exactly :)

SnoopyLove Apr 2018
I think you need to insist that you guys get him medical attention tonight. With stroke, they say "Time is Brain" -- you definitely don't want permanent damage happening to the poor man just because he's tired and being stubborn. He's probably not thinking clearly. Better safe than sorry. Call the doctor or nurses line right now, call for an ambulance or bundle him up and insist he get in the car to go to the ER.

Hoping for the best for your family!

tinkerbell50 Apr 2018
I'm sorry. No he doesn't have any history of stroke or heart attack. He has been healthy except for his gout but today he's been sluggish then he collapsed and couldnt get up. He's been taking care of my mom who had a stroke 2 yrs ago I moved in 5 months ago to help. I know he's exhausted it's not easy taking care of my mom who is very bitter and mean to him. What I meant in my earlier post was I thought it might of been a mini stroke that happened tonight

Countrymouse Apr 2018
He manifestly is not fine. Call

an ambulance
his doctor's emergency number
his insurer's helpline as SnoopyL suggests

take advice from them, and let your Dad refuse their help if he still wants to. I'm sorry, because he must be feeling ill and frightened, but it's not fair that he asks you to ignore what is under your nose.

tinkerbell50 Apr 2018
No he doesn't have Parkinson. What should I do if he refuses to go to doctor. He says he is fine.

Countrymouse Apr 2018
Tinkerbell, your profile says that your father's primary condition is heart disease/stroke? If that's already been diagnosed then you need to get him to an ER stat. Any reason you can't do that?

SnoopyLove Apr 2018
I would call his doctor's answering service tonight or his insurance's 24-hour advice nurse. If he is having a stroke or another urgent medical issue, you need to take action tonight. You also could take him to the ER.

So sorry to hear this is happening to you and your dad.

smeshque Apr 2018
Does your Dad have Parkinson's?

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