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WillyB Asked July 2019

Is it wrong to correct the dementia patient? Isn't it better to try to make the person think than give into the person?

Exercising the brain is like physical exersize. If you don't use it you lose it.

Midkid58 Jul 2019
My mother, while not officially dxed with dementia, acts like she has it--she can't string a whole thought together.

Sometimes I kind of correct her, mostly I let it slide. I can't follow her train of thinking at all.

I just agree with her, unless it's something of real importance. I mean, does it MATTER that she is obsessed with my nephews twins and ignore the other 27 greatgrands? Nope.

I did correct her a couple weeks ago when I had to tell her I have cancer. Her response "Oh, your daddy will be so happy to see you!" (Daddy died 15 years ago). I replied, 'Mother, LISTEN to me. I am not going to die. I'm just going to go through chemo for 4 months". She shook her head, "Oh no, you're going to die."

This kind of negativity, whether she's aware of it or not, I do not need in my life, so I am taking a timeout until I am done with chemo.

It DID hurt that the thought of my dying elicited zero 'sadness' in her.

But that's the price you pay for a brain that no longer 'works'.
lealonnie1 Jul 2019
With my mother and her dementia, combined with huge narcissistic personality traits, it's impossible to discern the "dementia" from the sheer meanness she's always exhibited. Can't sort the bull from the chit, I like to say. I feel irritated with her 95% of the time due to her foul mouth, which was there long before the dementia dx, by the way, so visits and phone calls are cut down to the bare minimum these days. The dementia has managed to take away what little filter she'd had on her mouth to begin with, making her almost unbearable to deal with. I'd like to say that mother's brain NEVER worked right, only now it's even more broken.
lealonnie1 Jul 2019
Here is the list I was looking for regarding Living With Dementia:

1. Agree, never argue
2. Divert, never reason
3. Distract, never shame
4. Reassure, never lecture
5. Reminisce, never say "remember"
6. Repeat, never say "I told you"
7. Do what they can do, never say "you can't"
8. Ask, never demand
9. Encourage, never condescend
10. Reinforce, never force

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Kathy4177 Jul 2019
Her reasoning is broken so it does no good to correct her or reason with her.

PaniniSandwich Jul 2019
WillyB I don't mean to be mean here but your loved ones brain is dying. It is frustrating and heart breaking and an insidious disease.

If you can, check out Teepa Snow's videos on YouTube. She talks a great deal about how we as caregivers have to change our approach because our loved ones can't with very practical advice.

Hang in there, good luck and always know there are people here to help.

AlvaDeer Jul 2019
No. The dementia brain cannot be taught by any exercise. You are only frustrating the person. The white matter is not there. You will cause anxiety and that indeed will make the dementia worse. You really need to read up on the subject before you attempt to think in this manner. It is like asking someone with a severed spinal cord to walk, because, you know, "use it or lose it". Sadly, it is already lost. There are some marvelous studies out there including the most famous, the "Nuns Study" that shows that we may perhaps help in prevention, tho even that is uncertain. Suggests that keeping a healthy brain adapting to new and different tasks is great for it. For instance, if you do Sudoku, perhaps do a few crosswords as well. Or vice versa. Good luck. It is a FASCINATING subject, though one that is sad for many of us. There is a huge difference in how different dementias manifest, and that is stuff even new to the experts. Oliver Sacks, before his death, wrote amazingly fascinating essays about our brains, including our brains with dementia. Good luck, and wishing you well.

freqflyer Jul 2019
WillyB, I found some excellent articles right here on the Aging Care website that will be very helpful for you regarding dementia.

https://www.agingcare.com/topics/5/alzheimers-dementia/articles

For other information, go to the blue/green bar near the top of the page and click on CARE TOPICS.
Shell38314 Jul 2019
WillyB you can also go to www.alz.org for more information.
lealonnie1 Jul 2019
Here is a link to a good article about what not to do with Alzheimer's/dementia patients: https://www.verywellhealth.com/what-not-to-do-to-people-with-alzheimers-disease-97967

Best of luck!

WillyB Jul 2019
Thank you for the input. All very helpful. I need tp pray for more patience & acceptance. Our doctor never told me what expect neither the private home care company
Shell38314 Jul 2019
The Dr should have explained some of the symptoms to you and gave you some fact sheets. Although there are different types of dementia and Alzheimer's is different on its own there are some common symptoms.

This forum has some great and knowledgeable people on here and there are articles that can help you to understand some of the disease, unfortunately, you will have to learn by walking down the path as we all are or have done.

I am sorry that you are in this situation. Don't be to hard on yourself because as Oprah has said, "when we know better then we do better." You are doing the best you can with what you have and that is all that matters.

Hugs!!
Eyerishlass Jul 2019
It's not so much a matter of if it's "wrong" to try to coax the correct answer out of someone with dementia. At some point, a person with dementia is unable to answer certain questions or to convey what they are thinking because of the dementia. The person with dementia isn't trying to be difficult, they just don't have the capabilities for thinking they way they once did. It's not stubbornness, it's the disease.

Allowing the person with dementia to think what they want is not "giving in" to them. It's keeping them at peace because having dementia is terrifying and debilitating. When people with dementia are corrected they can become agitated and depending upon how advanced their dementia is that agitation can last for hours. It borders on cruel.

We can't expect our loved ones who have dementia to participate in our world. They're incapable of that. We have to go to them in their world and be with them there. That means we accept them as they are, we respect them and their feelings, and we show love and compassion regardless of how capable or incapable they may be.

Shell38314 Jul 2019
A person with dementia has a broken brain! So, think of it and your theory this way; if a person has a broken leg that person can't exercise it until the bone is healed. Once the bone is healed then the person can learn to walk on it again.

The brain of a person with dementia will "Never" heal! It is dying! This may seem mean and I believe your heart is in the right spot, but that person we knew; the one who we called mom, dad, hubby, wife, or whomever they were is leaving our world and going into a world of their own and we can not save them. We can not ask them to not go and we can not follow! All we can do is love them; treat them as we wish to be treated; make sure they are fed and safe until the day we say goodbye!

Please, we can not make them do something that they just simply can not do!

But I do see where you are coming from "if only" it was that simple!

anonymous912123 Jul 2019
At a certain point there is no brain to exercise, it is gone. Challenging is not the answer, acceptance is.

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