In the past my grandma that is living with dementia (somewhere around stage 4 & 5) has accused my mom of writing checks in her name, which she eventually denied. She has a hard time organizing and often misplaces her belongings. We’ve tried to help her bring some order to her room but being untrusting of us, it hasn’t been successful. She was carrying 8k in her purse inside of a ziploc bag!! So my mom helped her clean out her purse that she clings to for dear life. But she cannot find her wallet which has important things like her ID and insurance card. My mom wants to help her find it but if my mom does, she fears she will believe she had it the whole time. How can we help her? Should we just let her find it amongst her things?
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POA for Finances is needed or papers indicating that it is the Guardian that is closing the account not "just" a relative.
Do some reading about dementia/Alzheimer's which will be beneficial to you in understanding the symptoms and getting helpful advice and guidance on dealing with the behaviors. There are many strategies you can use to help her allay fears and to feel comfortable and safe in her home environment.
Best of luck.
I have to ask - How did GMa have that much money on her person?
Once you find that wallet then remove all important items - I let my mom have change, cards that had no potential for monetary loss like rewards cards, library cards and such to pad out the wallet but nothing with information that could cause problems
Many with dementia are afraid that someone will steal from them so they hide items then forget where it is hidden so it is 'stolen' - look in drawers, under drawer liners, in towels, under mattresses, in bathroom cupboards etc - these are just a few places we found my mom hid things so don't just think of where you would put things but where things can fit - take into account that any limitation of mobility so maybe not too high or too low where she couldn't reach
All states should have a State ID that can be issued.
Local areas may have a local ID procedure that the Police or First Responders can use. But anyone should have an ID n them
When my kids were young and couldn't find something I would tell them "it's under something.". Usually that is the case as the item could have been easily found had something not been place on top of it.
I am sorry your mother is blaming you, but she is doing this to comfort herself. Maybe you could talk about things you misplace to make her feel more normal with misplacing things.
so I think your best bet is to get it from her when shes not in the room .The medical cards are needed
Seems she needs to be part of the process of "organizing". Maybe go through drawers, closets, etc. while she is in the same room with the organizer.
If mom finds it...don't tell grandma. Just place it where grandma will find it. Like under her pillow, in her shoe, in the pocket of the pair of pants that she will put on tomorrow, in her bathrobe pocket.
There are tags you can get to put on luggage so you can track where it is. Why not get something like that and place it on objects she tends to "misplace".
As to helping her bring order to her room....I am "just" an older person set in her ways and I would not like it if someone tried to "help bring order" to my house. So I can understand why she might be upset. On top of that she has a house full of people that she has to navigate. And with dementia there may be a nagging thought once in a while wondering who you all are.
You will learn that you will never "win" an argument when the person you are trying to convince has dementia.
You will need to learn how to redirect, you will need to learn therapeutic lies are not a bad thing.
And I do not know what the set up now is but soon grandma will need a space that is barrier free, no carpets, no stairs, larger bathroom, shower that is easy to get in and out of. If there is a walk in shower a bench or chair will be helpful. And she may begin to resist showering. It is a scary thing to do so someone will have to help her.
Join a support group, your parents as well.
If grandma is able to Adult Day Care is great and it will give everyone a break.
Short answer to your question is: you can’t. No amount of reasoning will work.
Took the Savvy Caregiver training class and that is one thing they pushed into our heads, redirect! It's hard sometimes but it's a must.
I am assuming that your Mom has POA over grandma? If not, someone needs to have at this point, as she seems to be suffering from a very severe dementia, and could lose all her money easily. If Grandma cannot or if demented WILL NOT assign your Mom to act on her behalf as her POA you will need to see an Elder Law Attorney to go to court to apply for guardianship. This is crucial. As must be clear to you, Grandma now is well into dementia. There will BE absolutely NO WAY to ever reason with her. Does anyone have POA for health care, as that is crucial now, as is testing for dementia. Sorry, so sorry. But you need good guidance now. That won't be cheap, but once things are in place, Grandma's finances will be safe in the hands of Mom, who will have to keep spotless records of all expenditure made FOR grandma. Please be sure who is up to this task. It is not an easy one. And please try to watch over Grandma who could lose 1,000s of dollars at a second notice at this point.