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MichiganFred Asked September 2019

How can a Medicaid recipient purchase a replacement car without endangering his benefits?

A friend receives Medicaid in Michigan and needs to replace an old car that is unsafe to drive and whose current value is probably under $100. He thinks a windfall might be coming his way that will cover the cost of a used car. But he's worried that the moment he declares additional income from the windfall, the state will either take the money or discontinue his benefits. I've been all through the state's Medicaid policy manuals and found ample evidence that Medicaid recipients are able to own cars, but not a word about how to replace cars with money that recipients are not allowed to have. Can anyone shed any light on this topic?

JoAnn29 Sep 2019
I had a neighbor who paid cash for a used car. She was on PADD, a state prescription plan. They felt if she could spend 5k on a car she could afford her prescription. I suggest you talk to Medicaid before any money is spent.

Evermore99 Sep 2019
My autistic friend gets Medicaid and disability here in Ohio. In Ohio, you can get a new car but there are restrictions. The car must be 5 years old or older but can't be one of those restored classic cars. Medicaid views cares newer than 5 years old that you don't need Medicaid. He almost lost both Medicaid and disability because he tried to buy a 2018 car. He and his dad said that his trust fund was paying for the car but his case worker said that it didn't matter if the trust fund was paying for it, they still had to follow the rules. The caseworker said that if they went through with getting the car, Medicaid and disability benefits would cease, they would have to pay all that disability money back and there were going to be legal problems.

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anonymous828521 Sep 2019
Hi MichiganFred, my cousin has that limited-asset thing with her "straight medicaid".
I saw on the medicaid website in her state of N.Y. that recipients are allied to own a car if its for work purposes.
Also saw that a 'trust' can be established (by the recipient of medicaid) in the case of winning lottery or something like that. The rule demands though, that the medicaid recipient must be cognitive enough to follow through with the lawyer on his own. So mentally handicapped folks could not acquire this type of trust. Anyway, hope this helps you out. Try going directly to your state's medicaid website: Q&A section.
Thats where I read all this. Good luck.
MichiganFred Sep 2019
Thanks, Tiger55. I think I can't take New York Medicaid law into account - I'd better stick with Michigan law, which is complicated enough! I don't think a trust will work, although Dan has considered it, because the projected amount of the windfall will probably not cover the costs required to set up a trust. Medicaid trusts are complicated, apparently.
MichiganFred Sep 2019
Thanks to everyone who responded. My friend - let's call him Dan - does not receive long-term care services, but is on traditional (as opposed to expanded) Medicaid. He does have to report all income and assets on a yearly basis. And the windfall, if it comes through, may put him just above the amount of annual income Medicaid recipients are permitted to receive (approx. $12,500), yet it may not even be enough to purchase a reasonable used car.
Dan is very reluctant to contact his caseworker because according to him they rarely respond and have caused his benefits to be cut more than once in the past.
I question whether spending the money immediately will solve the problem, because at the annual renewal, he will still need to report both the income and the car purchase, and there's no reason to believe the state would not take measures at that point.
Does anyone have a reference to any state law or policy that would cover this question?
anonymous912123 Sep 2019
I think the $12,500 figure is a monthly maximum of $1,000 a month, not a lump sum, this may affect his Medicaid. I would call the state Medicaid office and get clarification. Every state seems to make their own rules, under the federal umbrella.
anonymous901498 Sep 2019
There is value limit for the car set by his state Medicaid program. Some states are more generous than others. If the amount he receives is in excess of the asset limit, he may lose Medicaid benefits.

BarbBrooklyn Sep 2019
Hoping that Tacy or Igoo will chime in here, but it seems to me that if he uses the money before the end of the month in which it is deposited in his account to buy an allowable car, he won't endanger his benefits.

Best thing to do is to call his support worker.
anonymous828521 Sep 2019
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worriedinCali Sep 2019
He’s allowed to have money. And a car. Hes not on LTC Medicaid and appears you are in Michigan? He can use the money to buy a car.
AlvaDeer Sep 2019
Worried--could you elaborate a little on this one for me? What is LTC when it comes to medicaid.
The way I always heard it was that any money coming from anywhere if you are on medicaid can cause medicaid to be withdrawn from the recipient. Clearly I am wrong.
And does this vary in every State?

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