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Momsonlychild Asked July 2020

Mom Update; I truly don't get this.

Mom’s Dr sent a referral to Hospice today. A home health nurse came yesterday and said there was nothing else they could do, so we aren’t seeing them anymore. Hospice nurse is coming this Thursday instead of next week. Little frustrated, though to be honest. I looked up the qualifications for Medicare to pay for Hospice it says no specific number of things is required for Hospice and with her dr sending the referral it shouldn’t be a problem. But then Hospice says she may not meet the requirements. I truly don’t get this. I’m tired, worn out from today and my own pain level is pretty high. I could really use your prayers.

MaryBee Jul 2020
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jkm999 Jul 2020
If after you meet the hospice nurse and see what they will be able to do to help you are still unsatisfied check for other hospice agencies that may be available to you.

My experience with hospice when my mother died was one of the most unbearable parts of her death. My mother was in hospital with hospice. The hospice nurse would breeze in once every couple of days, do nothing, make me feel like s**t because I would take the few minutes to leave my mother's bedside when she was there, and then cheerily breeze out. When I left for a few minutes to take care of one of my children the hospice nurse literally said to me "Well, she might die while you're not here you know." A very compassionate person. The hospital floor nurses, however, were amazing so we all muddled through this very difficult situation.

My friend used hospice, again in hospital hospice, through a difference agency and the help and support they provided her was amazing. I never thought that hospice was something you had to shop around for but apparently it is. I know it is hard at this time to stay on top of everything but make you needs very clear to the hospice nurse when she comes and make certain that she'll be able to provide it. You will be held in my heart during this time.

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JoAnn29 Jul 2020
Is Mom still living independently? Was in home provided after a hospital stay? If so, they are never permanent. These agencies usually bill Medicare and once the person hits a plateau they can no longer care for them.

Just want you aware that with in home Hospice, the family members need to be there 24/7 if Mom still living independently. If in an AL you still have staff to help. First thing will be an evaluation by an RN. If excepted she will then be admitted. A nurse will check in maybe every 3 days a wk. An aide about the same amount of times to bathe. If you need her there more than the hour to bathe the patient and dress them because u need to run errands, then you need to tell Hospice that. You will be responsible in administering meds, the aide, by law, can't do it. The Nurse should be available by phone 24/7. This is a stressful time. Make sure when the Nurse explains what is going to happen, u tape it or have an impartial person with you because you will forget some of what is said. We have a number of posts where either the Hospice didn't explain things or the person didn't understand. And if not happy with a certain Hospice, you can request another agency. If you don't care for a certain aide or nurse, you can request another one. Keep in mind that if Mom lives independently or in an AL, it is her home. As such, those coming into it need to respect that and her. They are there to do a specific job and that is it. They are not to boss her or family around. They are being paid by her Medicare. You have a right to question and ask questions. Hospice is for Moms comfort. She is not to be agitated in any way. So, if she doesn't like a nurse or aide, don't hesitate to ask for a replacement. Now, if Mom is hard to please, of course that won't work.

Sunnygirl1 Jul 2020
I’ve read a lot about how people who have Alzheimer’s qualify for hospice. I’ve read they must use the term Alzheimer’s and not dementia. I’m not sure if that is true. My LO has Alzheimer’s and Vascular Dementia. I’ve read that they look at how severely they are affected by the condition and other factors. I won’t be more specific because I think different agencies handle it differently.

I’d try not to worry too much. If they are not helpful, I’d find another agency. Try to do some self care and know that others are sending well wishes and prayers! Hang in there and let us know what happens, when you have time.

Geaton777 Jul 2020
Alva, does she have the option of contracting a different hospice organization if she's unhappy with the current one? My MIL's facility contracts with more than one. MIL is on Medicaid. Just wondering.
AlvaDeer Jul 2020
Yes. You aren't under obligation to keep the same hospice. All approved hospice care is covered by medicare. When you think of it the government is quite correct in encouraging hospice as hospice prevents the needless testing and treatment expenditures when there is no hope of living.
AlvaDeer Jul 2020
Just have to wait and see. If she qualifies for hospice then Medicare WILL, yes, pay for it. Get that from them when you sign papers for her entry into the hospice program. They will explain it all to you. Hope to hear update after Thursday. The Home Health Nurse saying there is nothing left they can do for her pretty much seals that she qualifies. The doctor sent a referral and THAT also qualifies her. So just sit tight. I would be surprised if help isn't on the way. Get your own list of questions together for hospice. They will have social worker. Also chaplain. Also medical and nursing.
Momsonlychild Jul 2020
I don’t understand why she doesn’t qualify. I was basically told the dr referral didn’t mean anything. I’m trying to deal with the answer I received. After 7 years you are beyond weary. I hate seeing her like this. She’s so worn out, in pain and just wants it over with. I wish I could do more.

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