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Twillie Asked December 2020

Is there an alternative to withdrawing from relationship with mother when siblings can’t behave?

I gave my mom a note at the assisted living telling her “I’m not doing this anymore until I get compensated.” Guess what? The phone ain’t ringing so I haven’t even been to see her to discuss it - in 3 months. I’ve dropped off a few things - never got a response so I am truly at the point in NO CONTACT where it’s going to hurt. I can’t see my mom and it was a choice of my own making.


I’ve realized that while I’m very happy Mom finally moved to live close to me, it is all too late. She’s under the watchful eye of staff at AL, plus my brother and his wife though none of them are addressing her diagnosis of dementia as far as I know. It’s gotten uncomfortable for me to be involved because I did renounce a HCPOA over my mom in 2016 after hip fracture and placement in Independent Living and he removed her back to her own home to live alone. That made him agent #2 HCPOA and now he’s using it like a sword. Seriously it has gotten too uncomfortable for me to even visit my mom at AL. And painful knowing that he is completely manipulating her, isolating her, depriving her (because he is stingy with her money) - reminder due to Covid she can’t get to a bank - so I doubt she ever gets a meal out. I was doing all these things for her - until they wouldn’t pay me back, until the job got harder because she is so close by - I naturally did so I miss her but the reality is she has positioned my brother to inherit/receive everything. It’s like she doesn’t even have two other children. 


This is emotionally painful and I wish my son was here to receive his share of my estate but he passed away. So it’s like being treated like you are dead to them (dysfunctional family).

JoAnn29 Dec 2020
I guess your talking about reinbursement for things you got her she needed or wanted. Tongue and cheek here, maybe you should have presented brother with a bill if he is handling the money. To be honest, as her POA he should be making sure her personal needs are met. Lets say its Depends, believe me he will get a call she needs them. Shampoo, toothpaste, etc. he is getting the call. Als do not provide these things as u know.

You can't do anything about inheriting. And this has been mentioned on the forum before, grandchildren inheriting from grandparents. IMO, grandchildren are not entitled to an inheritance. My girls are beneficiaries in our Wills if we are both gone. If they want to give any of that money to their kids, thats up to them. Or, you have a trickle down effect. If one of the children dies, their share of the estate is split among the grands. But I don't feel a grandchild should expect anything from a grandparents estate.

Beatty Dec 2020
I don't think I've understand the big pic here.. but is it possible to visit Mom in AL? Just visit her, be in that moment, not think or talk about the past or future (especially not brother if a sore point).

I don't know if that is even a wish? But if so, what is the barrier?

When I visit my sister we discuss favorites TV shows, her outings that week, favorites meals. I don't discuss any of the 'elephants' in the room as they are really just in my head: my thoughts that her living alone is precarious & that I feel her enablers should change direction etc.

Is that your barrier? Past & future thoughts big as elephants preventing the present?

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BarbBrooklyn Dec 2020
TW, when you say you want to be compensated by your mom, do you mean you want to be paid for your time? Or are you asking for reimbursement for money that you lay out buying things that she needs?

There is a huge difference to my way of thinking and your mother may also not understand what you mean (I think you mean the latter).

I seem to recall that mom gave your brother POA. If that is so, then you should be submitting receipts to him for reimbursement from mom's funds.

AlvaDeer Dec 2020
It is sad. You have to withdraw to have piece, yet withdrawal makes you feel cut off which you are. While it is sad I think the better choice is to do this, and allow for more peace, and less bickering. I hope you are settled in your own mind that you did all you could to get along, and that further messing in this would just cause further mess. I would say find a way to be at peace with that. There is an estrangement in my own family that is occasionally on a personal level very painful when I think about it; but when I DO really really think about all of it, I still find there to be no answer to it. Sometimes people just don't get along with one another. They are best out of one another's lives. I have had to ask myself a few times "if one of you dies suddenly, how OK are you with where this all is" and have had to answer myself that I am as OK as I can ever be with the situation, no matter what. I have an inner peace about it. There is NO ANGER, but basically an understanding to withdraw from one another, and to have just a few pleasant words a few times a year.
This sort of thing is never easy. But as a nurse I witnessed family trauma over they dying bodies of my family; it is something I have never completely got over. Death and illness is one thing, but that sort of thing is quite another. I would be at peace in so far as you are able, reassure yourself you did everything you could. Wish them well, and well away from you.
I think were I you the one question I would ask is "Is this an attempt to get Mom to take sides", because you are too grown up for that, and that won't happen in any meaningful way. If I loved my Mom I would send cards and letters and bouquets of love, and not really speak about the bro. Just would be "let's don't go there". But if there isn't not a lot of a relationship with the Mom OR the bro I would, as I said, wish them well, and well away.
JoAnn29 Dec 2020
You know what is sad to my daughter. The families that want doctors to do everything they can to keep a LO alive when thats not possible. Why? Because LO lives with them and their SS check has helped to pay for living expenses and food.

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