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jst123 Asked November 2021

Need guidance please...

My husband is 69 was diagnosed with moderate stage Alzheimer's 2 yrs ago. I am the only caregiver, I still work full time and due to my own medical condition, leaving my job to take care of my husband is not an option. Currently working from home but will be back working in the office in January. My husband can't be left alone anymore, he can't prepare his food, I do everything for him as far as hygiene is concerned. He can still walk around the house and up and down stairs. I started to notice a few incontinence accidents here and there that he is trying to hide from me. We cannot afford assisted living facility or memory care. Adult daycares I visited have limited hours for day care. I am at a loss on what to do when I get back to work after the New Years.

Frances73 Nov 2021
Most AL do not accept Medicaid waivers unless the person has been a resident for at least 2 years. While Medicaid does pay for nursing home fees your husband may not need to be in a nursing home yet and may get better care for his condition in an alternative facility. The facility will assess his abilities and it’s up to them to decide whether or not he is a good candidate.

Your best course might be to research and choose an AL that you feel most comfortable with and get your husband settled sooner than later, which will make the transition better. Many AL also have Memory Care sections.

Next, research and learn everything you can about Medicaid, your rights as a spouse and all the financial and legal issues. Go directly to your state's Medicaid office, get an appointment with a case worker and get the facts. Don’t rely on "he said, she said" info from non-official sources.

Then, in 2 years get him qualified for Medicaid when HIS resources run down, DO NOT put your own financial future in jeopardy. Medicaid is designed to help the individual while protecting spouses and dependents. The goal is to limit the number of people who need it!

Good luck, please keep us updated.
jst123 Nov 2021
Thank you for the info
geddyupgo Nov 2021
So sorry you are going through this but you have to do what is best for both of you. You need to work for your insurance but you also need to take care of yourself. Caregiving as you already know is physicall and mentally demanding. If something happens to you .... who will advocate for your DH? It sound like the best thing for your husband at this time is placement in a MC facility.... but a few words (Ok ... more than a few) of advice:

1. Talk to a certified elder care attorney. You can find one near you at this site:
https://www.naela.org/. They can explain the community spouse clause and assist you in navigating the medicaid paperwork. Be prepared to come up with marriage birth and death certificates as well as rent/mortgage receipts, deeds and utility bills for a 3-5 look back. If you don't have receipts you can get a written statement from the landlord, bank and utility companies that are involved.

2. There are some horrible nursing homes and MC facilities out.... just like there are some horrible people. That doesn't mean every person is bad and it doesn't mean every facility is bad. You just have to spend time doing your research and homework. I personally feel that the care in non-profits (which are becoming few and far between) have a slight better care ratio than for profit companies but there are some great for profit facilities out there.
I worked for years at a government run facility. Ugliest building you ever saw but .... we had a great staff to patient ratio because very few people willingly left government employment. We had so many activities that other facilites (pre covid) would send some of their residents to participate. I had families in my office complaining that their Mom could not fit their visits in on her calendar because she went to so many activities. Our Admin kept everyone on their toes so care was good. We had a waiting list of private pay people who wanted to come in for respite care. When that facility was sold I moved on to a not for profit that my Mom had been prior to her death. Hands on Admin and a fabulous activities director kept that one at top notch level also.

3. Don't be mesmerized by the glitzy lobbies, grand pianos and smooth marketing talk. How do the residents and staff (their the one giving the day to day care) react with each other? Do they smile at each other, ask how each other are feeling.

4. Check with friends, religious organizations, senior care organizations etc for recommendations and experiences. Make sure the facilties you like will accept or convert a bed to Medicaid. Make at least three visits to facilities you like; two of them should be unannounced. Try to make one visit during lunchtime. Get a copy of the week's menu as well as the activities schedule for the month. Granted.... visits are a bit more difficult during covid as all facilities need to protect both staff and residents. Also be aware that almost every facility is short staffed (along with every other business) these days so you will have to give them a little lenience.

5. Stay on the forum and keep us updated on how things are progressing

6. Be gentle and kind to yourself

Hugs!!!
jst123 Nov 2021
Thank you so much.

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OuterBanks74 Nov 2021
There are nice facilities with good care. Get him qualified Medicaid and establish need to be in NH.
jst123 Nov 2021
Thank you
Isthisrealyreal Nov 2021
Jst123, please use a certified elder law attorney. You can find one in your area at www.nelf.org.

It is time for incontinence underwear. I would just replace all of his old underwear with them and not make a big deal about it. Much easier then cleaning messes.

I have had 3 close family members in facilities and I can tell you that there are some lovely places, with caring staff. You just have to do your homework and know that you can move him if needed.

You will be his advocate and voice and that will ensure that he is being cared for.

Personally, I think that non-profit, religious based facilities offer better care but, my grannie was in a for profit NH and we couldn't have been more pleased with the loving care she received. It just happened that it was the 1st Medicaid bed available and it was a blessing.

It sounds like your husband is beyond AL and needs MC or higher. A needs assessment will help you figure this out and your local area on aging can guide you to get that done and direct you to all the resources you need.

I really want to reiterate that not all facilities are awful. You will find one that gives him the care he needs and gives him a safe, contented, caring environment.
Cover99 Nov 2021
Good luck with that.
Grandma1954 Nov 2021
a reply to your comment about AL or MC not accepting him if he is incontinent.
They will accept him. I urge you to not do Assisted Living and do Memory Care. Assisted Living generally does not have locked units so in theory he could walk out. Obviously if they see him they could try stopping him but if they do not see him leave it could be deadly for him.

Grandma1954 Nov 2021
Is your husband a Veteran? If so he may qualify for benefits through the VA. AND due to recent changes you could get paid to care for him (probably not viable if you are depending on your employment for health insurance)
A little help, he may qualify for Hospice they would provide a nurse that would come 1 time a week, a CNA that would come at least 2 times a week, as well as supplies and equipment that you need.
If the Day care could work and if they pick up and drop off you could get a caregiver that would meet him in the afternoon and then remain with him until you get home.
A caregiver through an agency or one you hire privately. Hired privately would be less expensive but there is the paperwork that you would have to do. (taxes, and all that good legal stuff)
Another option IF your employer would allow you to Work from Home a few days a week that might help out a bit with eliminating the expense of caregivers BUT working while caring for someone is or can be a monumental task.
jst123 Nov 2021
No he is not a veteran..thank you for the info
JoAnn29 Nov 2021
Medicaid allows you to split assets. You can keep the house as a Community Spouse. With my GFs parents her father needed care. Both were retired, on SS and maybe one pension. They had 60k in the bank. The 60 was split, 30k each. When his split was spent down, Medicaid was applied for. The wife got enough of their monthly income to live on. You may need an elder lawyer to help with the split. You can talk this over with a Medicaid caseworker.
jst123 Nov 2021
Thank you so much
Ariadnee Nov 2021
I think even writing about what seems like the worst (to us) options of nursing homes, other care options than being the sole care giver, really, really helps to air out fears, and to focus more on the realities of how to have our loved one(s) fully cared for by professionals. Short of living in huge extended families with the willingness, expertise, time, space to care for their seriously ill members, the nursing home, long term care, assisted living are the current options. I have to start touring a few of these places in the coming months. That will be the best I can do for my husband.
A friend's best advice (having been a caregiver to her Mom) during my first stint doing this was "Think about your decisions. Make the best choice for you and the person you're caring for, which you will not regret in the days to come. Accept it. Move forward."
Keep reading the postings on this site, you won't feel so alone, stranded, and thinking everything is so weird right now. Nope, there's a big group here, we're dealing as best as we can right now with caregiving.
jst123 Nov 2021
True, im so glad i found this site.
lealonnie1 Nov 2021
Go see an Elder Care attorney about filing for Medicaid to get him placed in Skilled Nursing; see if you qualify for that assistance and how to go about applying/what to do about the look back period, your house, etc. That is your best bet, really. Even if you sell your house and both move into AL, he STILL can't be left alone while you work. Both of you cannot move together into Memory Care AL b/c you don't need to be in such a facility! What you could consider doing if Medicaid isn't an option is to sell your house, move HIM into Memory Care and yourself into an apartment. But again, an EC lawyer would be the best person to advise you. I'm sorry you're in this position to begin with. Sending you a hug.

Good luck!
jst123 Nov 2021
lealonnie1, thank you. I try to avoid taking him to the nursing home due to all the negative things i hear or read about them. But i think i dont have much choice. He is starting to be incontinence so i think assisted living facility or memory care wont accept him anymore once it gets to that point. I will look for eldercare attorney
againx100 Nov 2021
Maybe sell your house and go into assisted living together? Or at least into elderly housing?
Katefalc Nov 2021
Assisted living is not the answer for him. “ assisted” means just that… he needs to be independent requiring just a little “ assistance”. He’s going to get worse and worse . He needs a long term care facility. Alzheimer’s and all dementias are evil and don’t get better. I’m in your same situation except I’m retired. I’m waiting for Medicaid approval and he gets worse with each day. He currently can not remember how to get in and out of bed or chairs and I’m throwing my back out weekly. I’ve had shoulder and knee replacement and a slipped disc so trying to lift and pull him is hard. He’s eating non stop and gaining weight despite healthy snacks and me hiding things like high carbs.( crackers ect). Good luck. I wish you the best. This really stinks for all of us.💜
Ariadnee Nov 2021
Is there a department of Aging in your region? They can be very helpful. Is your husband drawing a pension? Social Security? Disability? Nothing? Then there could be hardship provisions in your area for care. Are there lawyers who specialize in elder care nearby? Since it seems you can work from home and take care of your husband (for now) I'd ask the lawyers about a petition of need to your employer. To state your case as you've descibed it and the importance of working from home.
jst123 Nov 2021
Ariadnee, thank you..he gets a little bit of social security money, not enough to cover care expenses for when i get back to working to the office fulltime. In as much as i try to avoid taking him to nursing home(medicaid), i may not have any other option

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