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EriFulbright Asked June 2022

Is it OK to let my mother rant on, and for me to go outside and breathe or even do housework ?

ZippyZee Jun 2022
More than ok, it's highly recommended.

Beatty Jun 2022
People have the right to rant, vent, moan & complain.

You have the right to choose to listen - or not.

"You can speak your mind, but not on my time.."
My Life, Billy Joel

In saying that, what are Mother's rant themes? Agree with CM, does pain, fear or other needs need to be addressed/reviewed?

Or is this more.. I hate the world & everyone in it coz I am (insert) old, tired, cranky, sore, frustrated, bored?

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EmotionallyNumb Jun 2022
I think it's ok to do. My mother struggles with chronic pain and depression and sometimes I just need a break. When she is in pain, she's just in a crap mood. Today, for example, I come home bearing gifts that I got for her bday tomorrow and she takes them all with a very minimal response and an 'I don't know if that will work'. Then I pull up an online that store that last week she wanted to get stuff from and was excited about, they were having a sale this week so we waited until today to look and order stuff. She starts looking and literally has something negative to say about every item we look at. There is no way to win at this, just walk away for a while and put her problems back on her to figure out. You can't save someone from themself.

Countrymouse Jun 2022
Thank you for replying, Eri. So, the rants are new, and your mother recently fractured her coccyx and requires support for all mobilising, yes?

That's actually good! - because it gives you two lines of enquiry.

1. If she's taking pain relief medication, report her rants and broken nights to whoever prescribed it and see if anything can be done to adjust that.

2. If she's still in a lot of pain, and finds it hard to get into a comfortable position, again report it to her doctor but also ask an occupational therapist to come and assess her (if this hasn't already been done).

Do the rants have any particular theme(s)? Are they all related to how miserable she is or are they more random?

Two further points to be aware of and take advice if, again, you haven't already:
1. Skin integrity. Are you and your father confident about checking her pressure points? This relates back to the advantages of having an OT involved - they are the experts on the right types of cushion, mattress and mobility aids to be using.
2. Your and your father's own wellbeing, when you're helping her mobilise, as well as her and your safety - have you been offered any guidance on safe transfers?

Grandma1954 Jun 2022
It is one of the best ways to
Keep your cool
Remain somewhat sane when caring for someone
Walking out of the room, out of the house (as long as it is safe to do so) is far better than losing your temper and saying or doing something that you would regret later.
Head phones, ear plugs, earbuds, all work as well.

Countrymouse Jun 2022
Yes. Good idea.

Taking breaks when your presence is doing nothing to comfort or soothe your mother will enable you to recharge your batteries, then come back refreshed to check again that she is not in pain, not frightened, not getting dehydrated or undernourished, and made as comfortable as it is possible for her to be in the circumstances.

But anything new or different needs reporting for medical attention. Are the rants anything new?
EriFulbright Jun 2022
Yes they are new, she took a major fall a month and a half ago and since being back home from the hospital it is bad bad. She is completely dependant on my dad and I. She is bedridden because she fractured her tailbone . We change her, feed her, and move her from the bed to her lift chair or out into the living room etc, bathe her etc. It is like taking care of a baby only this baby has a very very loud voice. All day long now and intermittently through the night.
JoAnn29 Jun 2022
Yes, its OK to walk away. But as Lealonnie suggested, talk to her doctor about something to calm her. Its not good for your Mom to be like this.

I too suggest you start thinking of having her placed. Her care is only going to get harder. If she has enough money to pay privately in a NH than use it. When her assets are gone, apply for Medicaid. Her house will be an exempt asset. If you have cared for Mom for 2 yrs or more in her home, then u may qualify for a Caregiver exemption meaning you can stay in the home. You may want to consult with a lawyer on what the Medicaid rules are in your State.

lealonnie1 Jun 2022
From your profile:
I am caring for my mother Bonnie, who is 72 years old, living at home with alzheimer's / dementia, arthritis, broken hip, incontinence, mobility problems, osteoporosis, and sleep disorder.

About Me
I'm a mother of 5 daughters ranging from 33 to 14. My 14 year old is with me every other week. I live at my parents house and have been helping take care of my mom for about 5 years now. She started getting dementia in 2020. She took a fall and is now bed ridden and her dementia has gotten worse. So very much worse. I am losing this battle.

Welcome to the forum, first of all.

You sound totally burned out, and I don't blame you. Trying to take care of a bedridden elder with dementia, all alone, if that's what you're doing, is a dreadful task. Plus, you're 5 years in, so burn out and/or compassion fatigue are very real conditions to be suffering from. We ALL lose the battle when trying to deal with dementia, which is a family disease. It only gets worse as their needs increase, and we're out of our realm trying to deal with ALL of it.

Is your 14 y/o daughter who's with you every other week also subjected to your mother 'ranting on' all the time? If so, that's not the best environment for an impressionable teenager, and something else to consider when thinking about placement for your mother.

I had my mother in Memory Care Assisted Living, and then Memory Care for the last 3 years of her life when her dementia got bad. There was no way on earth I could have been able to handle her at home, especially if she were bedridden. She was wheelchair bound and dead weight, so I wouldn't have been able to get her on/off the toilet, or change her soiled briefs, nor would I have wanted to, frankly.

Of course it's 'ok to let your mother rant on, and to go outside and breathe, and to do housework.' The bigger question to ask yourself, however, is ...........how much longer you can go on like this? Do you have paid help coming into the house daily to give you respite? If not, why not? When do YOU get a break from all this?

I suggest you read this 33 page booklet ( a free download) which has THE best information ever about managing dementia and what to expect with an elder who's been diagnosed with it. 

Understanding the Dementia Experience, by Jennifer Ghent-Fuller 
https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/210580

Get mom's doctor involved if she's 'ranting' for hours on end; Ativan helped my mother A LOT as her dementia progressed and her agitation increased. The Sundowning got very bad in the afternoons, and that's when it got hard to calm her down, and when she insisted on going home to see her parents (who were deceased). My mother lived with dementia for years before passing away at 95. I don't know what type of dementia your mother has, but Alzheimer's can last for many, many years.

Wishing you the best of luck finding help for yourself & your mom as you try to manage this situation.

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