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Cali53 Asked August 2022

Will it be easy for my husband to take care of his very selfish mom in our home?

He just up and decided to bring her to our house to take care of her (without my permission and without discussing anything with me). She can’t walk, she has to be bathed and changed, and her meals have to be prepared. Most rest homes have refused her because of her terrible bad behavior toward the staff. I have expressed to him about the way I feel. He has ignored my feelings. I will not be helping him take care of her, because of how she has treated me.

Beatty Aug 2022
You said no.
Your no was not respected.
I would take that seriously.
I would schedule marriage counselling asap. It can really help to have a third party to help each of you to have your say & be heard.

In the meantime, ask him to move out. He can look after his Mother if he wishes in his own space.

BurntCaregiver Aug 2022
Think about your own question that you're asking here.

'Will it be easy for my husband to take care of his very selfish mom in our home?'

Here's the answer to your question:

What do you think?
It will be more than hard. It will be absolutely miserable. If you think that you won't be taking care of her, think again.
My friend, It will not matter one bit if you say no or refuse. She's in your house. When she craps her diaper, you will change her. When she's hungry, you will feed her. When she's dirty, you will bathe her. When she wants to behave abusively (verbally or physically), you will take it, and when she calls, you will come.
I've been an in-home caregiver for almost 25 years. I've worked for couples whose marriages ended because an elderly parent needing care was moved in against the wishes of one spouse. Many wives flatly and adamantly refused to do any care for a MIL or FIL.
Yet, the first diaper or pull-up that gets crapped in is changed by the wife. The first bath or shower - The Wife.
Mark me, this is what will happen. Men are allowed to use the excuse of 'just not being able to do it' or 'she's more comfortable with a woman helping her' to get out of the gross care and it's accepted.
You will be lucky if the caregiving gets pushed on you gradually and politely like BlueEyedGirl94 says. Or you will just be the Designated Caregiver from day one. Now I want you to think about what your house will become. The needy, incontinent, gross, elderly invalid who hates you to begin with, will take over the main living area of the house. They will commandeer the living room. Take it over like Emminent Domain. This is almost always happens. Their junk, meds, assorted crap and kleenex will be everywhere. There's always kleenex in the furniture and all over. Crumbs and food too because they'll be spending all day out there and taking meals. Get used to a place that smells like piss and sh*t all the time too.
This sounds unreal, but I have known many DIL's whose MIL's hated them and yet were moved in. The MIL's would crap themselves the minute their DIL's walked in the door. They'd hold it for them. I wouldn't even be out of the driveway yet. They'd wait for their DIL's. Even the ones who still used a toilet and were only in pull-ups for 'accidents'. There would be daily accidents for those poor DIL's.
As a spouse you have legal rights and do not have to let her move in your house. Speak plainly to your husband and tell him it's either her or you. If he moves her in against your wishes, meet with a divorce lawyer. Good luck. I wish you all the best.
PeggySue2020 Aug 2022
It could even be worse than what Burnt said. It is, in fact, if she’s gotten professionally rejected by multiple places over behavior that’s over the top even to them, think about how awful it must be. We are not even talking about them holding their dookie so they can have an accident you’ll take care of. We are talking if you don’t, they might fish in their dirty diaper for nuggets to throw at you.

If you could maneuver h to be the one to get an apartment and try it out with mil, that’d be the best case here.

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Fawnby Aug 2022
Caregiving takes over the whole house no matter how large or well-appointed it is. Who cooks for her, shops for the food and many incidentals, like chux pads, she needs? If it’s you, you’re caregiving. Who watches her when he is out? Who carts the dirty diapers to the trash? If it’s you, you’re a caregiver. Who cleans the carpet when she vomits or pees on it? Who washes all the extra clothing and linen a sick person uses? Who converts the toilet to a raised seat? Who struggles to get the wheelchair through a too-small door in the bathroom? Where do you put your home items like the chair that is displaced because she needs a Hoyer lift? Will you feel comfortable having friends over when your house smells of urine and poop? Where will husband be most of the time? What happens to your marriage? These are realities. Caregiving is hell, not a fun family experience. If you go along with this, be prepared for all of the above and more.
BurntCaregiver Aug 2022
That's right, Fawnby. All of the above. The OP was against the MIL moving in so she is not a willing party.
This is going to be one hard situation.
Maggie61r Aug 2022
No, it will not be easy for him. I'm guessing that he assumes you'll jump in and help despite what you've told him.

Be prepared when that time comes (and you know it will) by making a list of in-home care providers (aides to bathe her, somebody to cook for her or meals on wheels if he won't cook for her, etc.)that he can call to care for her and hand it to him when he asks. If you can go to another part of the house where she isn't, all the better. She doesn't sound like a nice person to be around.

He made this decision alone, he can handle it alone.

Grandma1954 Aug 2022
Will it be easy for him...NO.
Should you help make it easy for him...NO.
You continue doing what you have always done, do no more than that.
You do not indicate your age, how long you have been married or if MIL has dementia or other medical conditions or if you have kids at home or not.
I do think you might want to talk to someone about this. Personally I would be real close to packing my bags. (after talking to a lawyer) I think this shows a blatant disrespect for you.
BurntCaregiver Aug 2022
Amen to thatn Grandma.
PeggySue2020 Aug 2022
I wouldn’t put up with any of this starting now. I would see a family law attorney tomorrow about getting a legal separation, particularly if he’s the only one bringing in income.

Im assuming you two have been together long enough for long term marriage statutes to apply in a community state. In which case he can finance your living elsewhere while you work out what’s to be done with the house and with provisions that your half aren’t to be drained for mommy.

MargaretMcKen Aug 2022
First thing if you suspect your marriage is heading for the rocks, is to separate any joint accounts. It has become a standard practice to drain joint accounts to leave the other person penniless. An equal split is at least fair. Just get there first.

Second thing is to work out and write down what you will do and WHAT YOU WON”T DO. You won’t change her bedding, her diapers, or her clothes. If she’s dirty, she stays that way until DH cleans her up. You won’t launder her dirties either. You will cook her meals (perhaps). If so, she gets a serve of whatever is being cooked, not a la carte on demand or at times of her choosing. You will not serve her meals at the table with you and DH. She eats in her room. You don’t pick up the dirty plates and wash them up – she eats off paper plates if necessary. She does not share your living room after dinner - DH provides her with a small table, comfortable chair and TV in her bedroom, and that’s where she sits.

Spell it out to DH. Have the argument BEFORE she moves in. Argue about the big picture, not sniping about individual actions. Write it down and KEEP the copies.

If DH doesn’t provide the care he is offering, and MIL’s living conditions are unacceptable, call APS yourself. Make it clear that you spelled this all out in advance. That’s why you need the copies.

Fight for your life! Because otherwise you won’t be living the life you chose.
Seekingtruth123 Aug 2022
Fight for your life! Because otherwise you won’t be living the life you chose.
I'm keeping this line!!!! Excellent!
Countrymouse Aug 2022
Decided to bring her to your house from where? Where was she living at the time? What prompted him to take her away from there?

What do you mean by: most rest homes have refused her because of her terrible bad behavior toward the staff? If they refused her, as in refused to admit her, she can't have had an opportunity to upset the staff. If more than one facility has asked her to leave because of abusive behaviors that's a different matter, but such behavior would have to be quite extreme for a step like this to go further than mutual agreement.

Anyway. What actually matters more is:

Do you like your husband and want to keep him? If so, you need to help him find more practical options for his mother and support him in withstanding emotional blackmail and the like. Don't refuse to contribute to MIL's care because all that will happen is that he will feel abandoned and trapped and stressed and he will become even more enmeshed with his horrible mother. If you lead or at least share the care, at least you'll have some control over what's going on (including, for example, sourcing outside help and deciding next steps).

If on the other hand your husband's ignoring of your feelings and wellbeing is all part of a pattern and you've already had enough of this marriage to last you... Is it time to walk?
Cover999 Aug 2022
That is probably what he wants to happen. She helps out, eventually leading to her taking on all the care 😄
lkdrymom Aug 2022
Everyone brings up good points.

Would it be possible for you to take a little two week vacation....maybe visit the kids? Leave him alone to his decision so he gets the full impact. Whenever my grandmother visited my father would use my mother and I as a 'buffer'. Then one time he had to spend the weekend alone with her at her house. The man came back looking like he did a tour of duty in Vietnam. "He had no idea she was so bad". Sure he didn't because he always left us to deal with her.

I agree with most everyone here. Don't start trouble but stay out of their way. The most I would be doing is making extra for dinner, but he is the one who feeds her and cleans up after her. He is hoping you will jump in. If it ever gets too intense, just pick up and go to a movie. Is he really ok with bathing her? Toileting her?
velbowpat Aug 2022
My husband tried to do this once and only once. FIL visiting for one month
and in continual foul mood. I packed up our infant son and walked out to the garage where he (hubs) was hiding and said "Come back inside and entertain your Dad or we are leaving.". Hubs apologized came back inside and sat with his Dad every evening for rest of visit.
BlueEyedGirl94 Aug 2022
I suspect he thinks it will be easy because he believes that YOU will be helping him - in spite of your stance that you won't. I have found that people often think that once they do something they want to do - even when you have been adamantly opposed - they believe that you will have no choice but to accept it - and often that you will have to actually assist with it if it is in your space.

So you are at a crossroads. She's not there yet from what I can tell. If you still have time to get in the way of this and think you have half a chance - I would make a last ditch effort to get him to stop this. He thinks this will be easy - but if she has already been refused by places that are trained to provide care for her (with multiple round the clock caregivers) - how precisely does he think HE can provide that care all on his own?

What is her level/need of care? Does your husband still work? If so, who does he expect to take care of her when he is at work? If not, is he 100% dedicated to being at her beck and call 24/7?

You mention that she is difficult enough to have been rejected by nursing homes (that is a pretty bold statement - they usually have to have lived there and been asked to leave - I'd love to hear how she was rejected BEFORE living there) - does he think that just because HE is the one providing care that she is going to be a perfect angel. Statistically this is flawed thought. Many are worse with their loved ones and expect more from them than someone they are paying to provide their care.

What is your plan if he goes through with this? You say you will not be helping to take care of her - and I agree with that approach - he didn't even consult you - just made this decision in a vacuum. As such - he shouldn't just get to move someone into your home who needs 24 hour care and expect you to have to provide that care. That being said - how realistic is this to maintain? Are you really going to be able to live in the same house and NOT end up somehow having to help in some way - he'll start to sneak it in here and there.

"I have to run out right quick - mom is doing XYZ....when she is done she needs this sandwich I made for her - do you mind running it in to her?"

"I'm jumping in the shower, can you run mom her coffee and her meds?"

"I have a doctor's appointment tomorrow and mom can't go with me, so she'll be here with you for about two hours and she has to do X, Y and Z while I'm gone, you don't mind do you?"

- you see where I'm going with this. Are you REALLY going to be able to say no to the "little" things that he asks that don't seem like a big deal? They don't seem like anything at first, and then before you know it you have ....

"Mom needs a bath and I really don't feel like dealing with her today - you do it" and...

"Its your turn to take mom to the doctor, I did it last time" and...

"Mom is calling you".

And before you know it YOU are the one doing the caregiving and he has slipped out of it entirely.

No, it won't be easy for him at all - but HE is the one that made the choice. The REAL issue is that even if HE is the one doing all of the caregiving - it's not going to be easy on anyone living in your home period - even if you don't ever do a single thing to help. But the reality is that you aren't likely to escape it.

And the hardest part is you probably already know that. And you know her history. If she is already a piece of work BEFORE, that's not likely to get any better.

I agree with others, let him go take care of her for a while in her current space and see how he thinks that goes. It will likely nip the idea of permanent servitude in the bud quite quickly.

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