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TootsieT Asked April 2023

Rallying repeatedly: How is this possible?

Hello, I posted back in January and a lot has happened since. My mom is on hospice for 20 months now. CHF, COPD, and multiple other issues. 20 months ago, they told us at the hospital she had 4-8 weeks to live and suggested hospice. So that is what we did.


Here is what has recently happened:


2/27/23 I get called saying her limbs are already cold, she is not responsive when trying to wake her, etc. etc. They told me she has begun actively transitioning. 24 hours later? Wide awake asking for her favorite foods having no idea what they were talking about.


3/11/23 Starts seeing things that are not there and thinking she has gone places she has not. Two days later, realizes she was mistaken and thought it was weird. Keeps living like normal and "improving" from super low BP.


4/7/23 All week was acting weird. Seeing and hearing incorrect things, mean, nasty, making accusations (reminded me of when we were young as she was untreated bipolar/borderline and was very mean growing up.) Then Saturday morning 4/8/23 could not be woken up, congestions that was audible and BP was the scary lowest/ ICU level. They called me and said (one week ago today!!) she would be gone within 24 hours based on her vitals and condition. To come say goodbye.


Here we are 4/15/23. She is wide awake, eating, laughing, talking, asking to go outside which we did. I have been there every single day for hours for the last week straight. She is totally back to normal again.


Mind you, we have had what they call "episodes" of her going totally out/unable to wake up, audible congestion, high heart rate, etc. This was in 9/2021, 4/2022 and 12/2022 and back then said, "we cannot really tell which way this is going." Never until this year did, they tell me twice she was actively dying and to come say goodbye.


Has anyone else experienced these seemingly regular rallies?! It is exhausting. Emotionally and just every way I am so tired. I have no more I can say or do that I have not already with her. I am finally ready to let her go. I can finally see how bad her quality of life is. She cannot use her legs at all, one arm works, she is in bed all the time. Yet, she is not ready to go. I have so much respect for our Souls purpose. So, while part of me understands when it is not your time it is not, and when it is it is. It is just all this back and forth that I am handling poorly. I do not *want* my mom to die. I want her to be healthy and pull a wild miracle out of the air, start walking with help from PT, go to assisted living and live her life. We all know that is not happening. She gets worse and worse after each of these "episodes”, and I am losing my mind. I sure hope someone else gets this because I feel crazy... I barely work (I am self-employed), talk to friends, etc. I just shut down and cannot seem to DO much when this happens. I have a therapist. I have a support group I just went to last week that meets Mondays. I have people. Just nothing feels right. I am hesitant to post but chose to anyway. People can be so wonderful, and others just see the surface and judge. I will take my chances and hope someone else reading this has been there. Thanks for reading.

sp19690 Apr 2023
I get it all these close calls and death is eminent predictions and then she rallies would be making me crazy too.

You want it to be over but you don't because you know the finality when she finally does die.

Yet the anticipatioary grief is far worse because you don't get to fully grieve when she rallies but you also may have some guilt of feeling relief that it's finally happening and then it doesn't and your back in this seemingly endless loop.

You've said your goodbyes enough for three or four lifetimes already.

Now its time for you to start living your life while mom transitions from life to death in her bodies own time. Which could be tomorrow or weeks or even months from now.

And it's perfectly OK and normal for you to want mom to die and finally be at peace.
TootsieT Apr 2023
Thank you so much for your reply. I know you are right about all of it it is hard to accept certain things though. The group I found is an Anticipatory Grief group which is local and I attended a meeting and we have another on Monday. Some days feel so heavy, but what you said is so right about it going on for days, weeks or months more. I cannot continue as I am. That is for certain. I appreciate your reply and feedback. Blessings to you and yours. ~
Madisoncuckoo7 Apr 2023
Yes! Thank you so much for posting this.

Different scenario of course, but my mom has these quick seizures where she blinks in and out…to the point of being non responsive, and then…she’s back and chatting again! This has happened no less than a dozen times over the past two years. I don’t count them any more.

I’m praying that one of these seizures takes her out, then feel very sad at the thought of her passing, and guilt for wishing this long road reached its destination. Anti seizure meds are keeping her less seized up- but for what ? To pass in a worse way, declining to the point of aspiration pneumonia? This is utter madness. I want peace for ALL of us.

For me I did pretty okay until I got feverishly covid and during it she had another seizure, this time the paramedics calling me yelling about her blood pressure being 60-something over 20-something. Then she rallied right back! At that point my stress went Ka-bang.

I truly feel insane over this. All the self care in the world hasn’t cleared my head yet. So I really really thank you for posting your story! It’s a huge help that someone else out there gets it’.

Big hug to you!!!!
Chestershaba3 Apr 2023
I don't see how this is helpful
She wants assurance it's ok to let mom go

Let me tell you when you watch a mom or anyone w no quality of life it's a blessing to have them go. My mom still thinks I'm gonna go w her i think, rather selfish, or she's too far gone to think of her 67 yr old child! Sometimes i think I'll go first, sometimes i wish i would rather than deal w the guilt put upon me.

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golden23 Apr 2023
Dear soul. This is so very trying for you. Please work on your own self care. Your mother is travelling her own journey and it is a decline. It was such a relief for me when mother finally passed aged 106. I had had to keep my own life going or I would have been in much worse condition than I was at age 80.

See if you can detach and distance a bit. I don't mean for you to love your mother less, but to love yourself more. You need care too. I doubt anything you are doing is helping or hurting your mother in any way but it is affecting you. So choose wisely - to look after yourself. (((((hugs))))) I know this is very hard.
TootsieT Apr 2023
Wow... 106. What a road you two were on. Thank you so much for sharing and your feedback. ~
Lighthousecltor Apr 2023
I am going through the same thing with my 98 yr old mother. She has been on Hospice for over 2 years now and we go through the same. One minute she is at deaths door and the next she wants her favorite food. She is in our home so it's very difficult at times. Hang in there, you are not alone in this journey.
Chestershaba3 Apr 2023
Good luck! Must be hell to pay, i did 3 yrs before the incontinence and wheelchairbound was too much, but still get the guilt trips because i don't move into the nursing home!!
TootsieT Apr 2023
THANK you all so much for your responses. It helps to hear positive supportive words from folks who have been or were once where we are now. Letting go is so hard and I do believe she has some Soul work to do yet or she would not still be here. I wish I could help her with that, but it is not for me to do. I have done Energy work (I am a Reiki Master) with her to help in that sense, and we have had in depth conversations, I even located her long lost sister (25 years apart!) last month and they have had so much fun catching up and seeing each other. I am sure if there is more for me to do for her I will be guided to do such. For now though after finally getting out this morning with friends, and coming back to read your replies, I can see I have been in poor (very poor!) cycles with very little self care. So, today I am not going to visit her and am going to go do something for myself.

My road with my mom has been interesting and some close to me do not understand why I would be here for her after all she did to us growing up. Including finally running away with a man half her age and finally calling (2 weeks later) to say she had enough of us. I had just turned 16 and it was awful. 3 years later the young man dumped her - complete with getting someone else pregnant and marrying her. Thus her suicide attempts and breakdown that she never came back from happened. At 19 I became the mom and her the daughter and it has been that way now for 25 years. I know in my heart she deserves a person. I am her "person" and I know she did the best she could with her severe mental health issues and extreme abuse including molestation from her own father and she did not get help for that. The my dad was abusive to her and us physically. The gal had such a tough life. So I am thankful I can *see* her. Her true Spirit and heart. Despite her awful and I mean awful behavior to us kids growing up and even now. I See her and I always have. I am hurting now though from trying to fix, wait, etc. and will do my best moving forward to take care of myself.

I will not jump at the next call, but I know I will go. My fear is all these inadvertent "crying wolf" medical calls one day I may get so jaded I do not go and it will be the time she actually passes. I am not willing to risk that, but the emotional turmoil, frantic feelings, isolation, etc. I have been doing need to go.

Thank you again for listening, for your comments, thoughts, and well wishes. It is deeply appreciated.

southiebella Apr 2023
Goodness gracious yes! It's a comfort to know that I'm not the only one who has been on this roller coaster.

This may be boring to read.

My experience with my mother (now 96 years old living with me for 5+ years) started 3 years ago when she broke her hip in January 2020.

While she/we (I stayed there with her for 8 days) were still in the hospital she said to me "I'm dying", which immediately threw me into a state of grief and crying. This took place as I was leaving to run home and take a shower.

That only lasted until I returned from home a couple hours later to find her once again enjoying the attention of the hospital staff.

Then in December 2021 we both got Covid and I was told that she was going to die within 48 hours. So again I thought that it was time, and my two children came over (we did not go to the hospital) in tears to tell her they love her and say goodbye.

Grief, sadness, sickness was the flavor of the week.

Amazingly, she recovered and once again she was able to return to her baseline. After that, I had her assessed for physical therapy, home health and palliative care.

Then last month, she developed an upper respiratory infection (brought in by a sitter who said it was allergies) and she rapidly plummeted into labored breathing and low O2 saturation within 24 hours. A PCP gave her an antibiotic. At that point, I was able to have her very quickly transitioned to hospice care which provided Oxygen, nebulizer treatments. (She did not go the hospital.)

Again I drank a steaming cup of grief and sadness.

And. Once again, she has recovered beautifully and is back to her baseline.

I'll now be keeping her under Hospice care as long as she qualifies.

The emotional whiplash is takes a toll, doesn't it?

(((Hugs))) to everyone here who is standing strong while being buffeted by the mental, emotional and physical stress of caregiving.

Crowe1973 Apr 2023
Hello. I am caring for my dad in our home, who is now 104 years old. I read your story and understand the yo yo back & forth you are going through. Your mom evidently still has a lot of life in her and she's not ready to transition, so she's fighting back.

What I would recommend is that you get a close family member or friend to assist whenever possible to visit your mom while you take a mini break & don't feel guilty! I have found for me, if I go more than 2 weeks without a break, I feel tired, down, & sometimes a bit disgusted.

When you have these mini breaks, whether it is overnight, a few hours a day, concentrate on what you like doing for yourself. Go see a movie, concert, shopping, visit a antique shop, go dancing, etc. Whatever you like doing!

This has helped me so much! It makes me feel revitalized and renewed. Of course prayer and meditation and listening to inspirational music helps too! Try this advice and you will feel so much better!

Finally, I would not allow myself to believe this may be her final day, despite the prognosis the health care staff & doctors are giving you. She's already made up in her mind to fight back & stay alive, so don't allow this to keep you emotionally drained.

Laugh a lot, take of yourself & change your perspective! Take care!
PeggySue2020 Apr 2023
Omg. If mil lives that long, dh would be 85. I expect we ourselves will need some sort of help then!
Riverdale Apr 2023
I could practically write your post. My mother appears to be winding down as she now is no longer eating at all. She is still drinking. I have been told since November of 2020 her days are very numbered. Put on palliative care twice only to be removed from it. She is in a different facility now since then on hospice.

My emotions have been put through the wringer. I too wish she could be back to being with her walker and I pick her up from AL. I don't welcome her death but the suffering is so difficult. She was dropped at her previous facility and both femurs were broken. Then she developed a serious bedsore which she still has.

Her hospice nurse does feel this is the end since she is no longer eating. I wish you peace. I know how terribly difficult this all is.
TootsieT Apr 2023
Wow... blessings to you and yours as well. This is very similar indeed and so hard. I wish you both peace as well. ~ Thank you for sharing/replying it was so helpful.
Happyplace Apr 2023
I don't know how you feel about it but I think that if your loved one wants you there at the moment she passes, it will happen one way or another. So I wouldn't feel like you have to be bedside 24/7. I know someone who did this and their loved one passed in the few minutes they stepped out of the room. Take time for yourself. She knows you love her.

MJ1929 Apr 2023
I kept a running journal of my mom's care the last two years of her life and finally started drawing a picture of a rollercoaster and adding a little upward or downward curve depending on how her day went. By the end it was quite a ride.

We didn't have quite such wild ups and downs as you've had, but it was indeed a rollercoaster of health crises for her and emotions for us.

You've said your goodbyes, so I'd say to feel free not to jump when the next crisis call comes if you don't feel up to it. It won't matter whether to rush to her bedside yet again. Do what's best for you now.
TootsieT Apr 2023
So smart to journal... I hope it helped you. Thank you for replying and your feedback so much. ~
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