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didavis2 Asked April 2023

What would you do if you had a MIL like this?

It has been about 4 months now and my husband's and I's relationship is really strained. We have moved in to take care of his mother since his father passed away. She is on Oxygen and continues to smoke. We have done everything for hiring agencies and she just cusses them out and they drop her. She refused to bathe and threatens to remove us from her house and call the cops if we take away her cigarettes. Her house was owned by her husband's family and is jointly owned. The other party wants out and requested us to sell the house. I am seriously unsure what the best thing is. We cannot find anyone to come out to help her and she is ruining our lives. My husband is not able to work and has to be at her call. She bangs on the floor all hours for him to come up and help her. She plays the Martyr and is a really bad narcissist. Upon cleaning, my daughter, who is her step-granddaughter, the purse that went missing 14 years prior was found in her closet. She told me she did not have it and held onto it for 14 years. The manipulative deceitful acts occur daily. She gives me a look that would burn your soul. I am not sure what to do at this point. I am not sure if we can find a place that would take her. We have run out of home care options and she was already booted from rehab. My husband is an only child and is her sole care provider. She is always snippy with me and does not want anything I cook. She orders me around like I am her servant.

Daughterof1930 Apr 2023
“My husband is not able to work and has to be at her call” not true at all. That’s a lie you’ve sold yourselves. Not to sound harsh, but you and your husband are adults, and as such free to choose everything about your lives. There is zero reason to live with someone who doesn’t want the help you provide and criticizes you at every turn. This isn’t healthy for any of you. You don’t owe MIL anything, move out, no arguments or explanations needed. Go back to work and guard your own health and financial futures. Your daughter shouldn’t live in this mess either, she will come to resent you for placing her in this situation. Talk to hubby today, tell him it’s time to go, and then go with or without him. I wish you the best
NYDaughterInLaw Apr 2023
This is the way!
Beatty Apr 2023
"We have moved in.."

Throw this into reverse!
Quick sticks!

Ask, say, do..

ASK MIL what she wants - from a list of what is Realistic + Affordable + Available in her area.

SAY
1. Say what you WILL be able to do, going forward.
Eg telephone once a day as a welfare check-in + visit once/twice a week. Help arrange services with her. Help arrange meals on wheels or food deliveries. Or if she is completely against these & cannot cook, bathe or clean, offer to help find her a nursing home instead.

2. Say what you will NOT do going forward.
Eg Live in. Pay for her lifestyle.
Be at her beck & call. Put up with verbal abuse.

3. Say if you find she is unsafe living alone, refusing help to live safely, you will report her as vulnerable adult at risk to authorities.

DO. Do as you say you will. Arrange home services again.
Move out.
Notify APS.

Q.1 Does your husband ever feel free to say NO to his Mother?
Q.2 If not, why not?
Q3. Can you freely say no to him?

You have slidden down a big slippery slope.. but you can reverse this. Hopefully WITH your husband. Or.. he is left down there to smother alone. He chooses.
Didaviscfl Apr 2023
Find my other comment regarding what happened with social services. They basically said we had to care for her. She is blacklisted.

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MeDolly Apr 2023
IMO the only solution is to move out. If your husband wants to go, fine, if not that would be fine as well.

I am so against moving in with a parent I cannot begin to tell you the horror stories, so many just do not understand the ramifications of doing this. Your husband not working is one of them, you are now dependent on the mother to keep a roof over your head. Yes, she knows that it is her home, her rules, you are her coolie.

She can live for many more years, is this how you want to spend the next years of your life? I would hope not.

Good Luck!

Fawnby Apr 2023
You need to get out of there and take your husband with you. If he’s worth keeping, that is.

Neither of you is obligated to this horrific woman. Being an only child doesn’t entitle a person to put his spouse through hell.

She could kill all of you if she starts a fire with her smoking and oxygen. Is that how you want to die? I doubt it.

If you and husband leave, that’ll pave the way for someone else to take over her care. As long as you stay, you’re enabling her to abuse both of you.
Didaviscfl Apr 2023
My hubby is very much worth keeping and none of this is his fault. Read longer comments for details.
AlvaDeer Apr 2023
You simply leave, with your husband or without him if he will not leave. You get your own apartment and jobs.

Or you choose to stay and deal with all this that you have mentioned if you feel qualified to do so and wish to continue in this manner.

You do not mention that there is any diagnosed dementia.
Nor do you mention that there is a legal POA .
If there is no dementia your MIL can take care of herself or hire in help.

If there is dementia I would call APS to deal with MIL and tell them that you are unable to do so.
If APS believes her living conditions are unsafe they will arrange for diagnosis and guardianship of the state, then placement. You will not have a choice as to where this is, and the state will appoint a fiducicary to manage finances, medicaid if needed, and nursing home care.

The choice is really entirely up to you. I sure wish you good luck. Not everything can be fixed.
Didaviscfl Apr 2023
Please find the other comments. Social service told us we need to care for her so leaving is out of the question.
funkygrandma59 Apr 2023
I would get the hell out of her home that's what I would do. With or without your husband.
You say that your husband "has to be at her call" but let me tell you, your husband is choosing to be at her beck and call. There's a big difference.
If hubby wants to continue to be his mother's slave and be used and abused, that's on him not you. You have to now do what is best for you and your marriage.
As long as someone is there to enable your MIL she will never admit that she needs more help and the vicious cycle will continue.
Just because your husband is an only child doesn't mean that he is in any way responsible for the care of his mother. I just don't understand that way of thinking.
So next time she threatens to remove you from the house, PLEASE take her up on it and then let the chips fall where they may. It's time to call her bluff!
And once out you can call APS and report a vulnerable adult living by themselves and let them take it from there.
Didaviscfl Apr 2023
I really wish I could. When she was booted from the ltc for rehab, they made my husband sign a statement saying that we would provide care or an agency would. She was acting nice and sweet then all hell broke lose. No one will touch her. They basically tricked us. Social services said it is our responsibility because my husband took over her care. They came in and talked to her when we went to a funeral back home and told us we could not leave again until we found an agency or someone to take care of her. I have tried to find a place for her to go. It is like she was blacklisted. We live in a small town and tried to get her to go back to where we were originally at. She refuses to go.
NYDaughterInLaw Apr 2023
You have a daughter and you subject her to an old woman who smokes while on oxygen knowing that she can blow up the house? You also have a husband who is a deadbeat dad because he's chosen his mother over his daughter? And you're complaining because your MIL gives you nasty looks, treats you like a servant, and something about a purse? You don't see the real problem which is that you and your husband are unfit parents. Forget about your MIL and, if necessary, about your husband. Do what you have to do to get your daughter out of your dysfunctional and dangerous living situation.
ZippyZee Apr 2023
Seriously. CPS needs to be involved before APS. This person is the worst kind of unfit mother.
tygrlly1 Apr 2023
Contact your local Adult Protective services unit and infirm them that she is a danger to herself and others and you are washing your hands of her because she is abusing you and your family. Also contact local fire department about her smoking with oxygen and refusing to stop. Ask them to contact APS. Many times, the 2 agencies will work in tandem to place the person , often through a mental health chapter. If your husband refuses to go along with this, take your daughter and leave so this wretch doesnt also destroy your bond with her too. My heart breaks for you , and you will be in my prayers.
Didaviscfl Apr 2023
Yeah tried that and it backfired big time. See social services long comment.
LoopyLoo Apr 2023
Wrong… you ARE certain what to
do. Move out and let your husband tend to Mommy.
Didaviscfl Apr 2023
We have been together for 26 yrs I am not leaving my husband.
tygrlly1 Apr 2023
Please try to get her chaptered under an Involuntary three party Mental Health Commitmrnt You will need to call the police and have her detained for a mental health commitment. Three people will need to write statements on why she is a danger to herself or others . Within 72 hours a mental health committmrnt hearing is held and she will be madder than a wet hen and earn a ticket to an inpatient mental health commitment . Your best friend will be documentation and be sure to start a paper trail at your local police station and call them any time she rages at you and refuses to stop smoking with oxygen
It wil be on official record then and you will be less likely to be blown off and more likely to get some action. Hopefully no guns in the house?

Prayers and very tough love…

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