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Scotlandis4me Asked August 2023

My 84-year-old mother refuses to quit driving. What do I do?

She lost her license a few months ago because she hit a car in a restaurant parking lot & didn’t realize it. Customers called the police & they came by the house. I wasn’t there (she lives with me). I’ve discussed her eyesight, the size of her vehicle (large SUV), what would happen physically, medically, & financially if she hurt/killed someone - to no avail. She simply says, “I’m gonna do what I want.” Miraculously, she was able to pass her tests & got her license back, but she hits things (boxes, tables, etc) in the garage all the time. The entire family thinks she should stop driving, but no one is willing to give an ultimatum. Please help. What do I do? I don’t have POA.

Midkid58 Aug 2023
This is one hill I will die on--the selfishness of elders who feel like they have the 'right' to drive, no matter what, and don't even stop to think the lives they impact with their terrible driving.

Mom gave up driving pretty easily--but not before she had seriously dented all 4 fenders of her little car. At the end, she was seeing the road between the 'spokes' of the steering wheel. My last trip with her at the wheel had me shaking in my boots.

Luckily--after her hip replacement, she never regained the strength necessary to even push the gas pedal. Plus YB made her show him how she was going to get her walker in the car, get HER in the car and safely back out of the garage.

She couldn't even get the walker in the car. And she HAD to walk with that.

She did reluctantly release the keys and gave us no pushback.

36 years ago, we had just bought out first brand new car--a Chevy Astro van which was such a joy after having cars too small to comfortably fit our family.

On our FIRST longer trip in this van, we were approaching an intersection way out in the middle of nowhere. We could see an elderly man in a sedan sitting at the stop sign. My DH said "This guy is going to pull out in front of me!" and he did, with no looking left nor right. Luckily, the roads were wet, so we hit him HARD, 55 mph and he spun around and around and wound up in a ditch. He had a carload of elderly ladies with him. They could easily all been killed or at least seriously hurt. Our van was huge and heavy, but it still did considerable damage. My kids learned that day the importance of seatbelts!!!

Of course this old gent lost his license, we made sure of that--but what 'could have been' still haunts me to this day.

Driving is a PRIVILEGE. Even if you have to disable mom's car and hide the keys and drain the gas--please, please don't let her drive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will never forget the look on the one lady's face as we hit the car---pure terror.
Southernwaver Aug 2023
Yup. I know someone who has to sue the man who hit her. His estate actually because although he slammed into her, he died. He was in his 90s. She was injured. It was an unnecessary nightmare for all involved.
Grandma1954 Aug 2023
Grandma1954 8/8/23

Mom lives with you.
Since she has a license, passed the test and got her license back then...
I would set some ground rules.
1. She can no longer park in your garage. If she is damaging things in the garage by hitting them she can park outside.

2. No one rides with her. (family members her friends can take a chance if they want)

3. If she does any damage to your property file a claim with her insurance. Enough claims her insurance may be increased to the point where she can not afford it AND/OR he will be cancelled.

Legally if she has a license, if the car is hers, if she has valid insurance you can not take the car away, disable the car. If there is a medical reason she should not be driving there are forms the DMV has that her doctor can complete and send in.
I hate this because you hear all the time about people that drive into stores, into a crowd and it may have been prevented.

last option might be to give an ultimatum. (and I really dislike ultimatums)
"Mom, as long as you are living here I can not let you continue to drive. If you want to keep your license and car you will have to find another place to live"
YOU are the one that has to give this ultimatum since she is living with you.
Grandma1954 Aug 2023

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Fawnby Aug 2023
If you don’t stop her from driving, be prepared for a serious accident in which she is hurt or killed. She could also be sued by the family of any person she hurts or kills. Or for property damage she causes. These legal matters can go on for years. She is unlikely to be capable to deal with courts, lawyers, paralegals, trials. All that would probably fall on you. Plus it’s very expensive.

POA is irrelevant.

Contact her doctor, who could test her for various abilities and stop her driving. Possibilities are cognitive issues, vision problems and hearing impairment. Do it before she kills someone.

You’ve already tried to deal with her rationally and she doesn’t understand. Looks like dementia to me.

Good luck.

Fawnby Aug 2023
A member of my family, age 48, was killed in an accident with a drunk driver. His wife had serious injuries but survived. The drunk ran a stoplight. I don’t recall his age but I’m sure he was elderly. The drunk lost a leg. The lawsuits dragged on for years, and both families went through hell. It all could have been avoided if the driver and his family had been responsible enough to get him off the roads.

PandabearAUS Aug 2023
You could be in for serious financial and legal problems if she continues to drive. TAKE THE KEYS AWAY. Is simple. Be prepared for the meltdown. Get the cops to come around and talk to her. I think they can even take her keys. FFS. What’s so hard about this
Geaton777 Aug 2023
PandabearAUS: Because it differs by state and county here in the US. Where I live, taking keys away is not something the cops show up for, unless the senior becomes threatening or physical. But that doesn't mean they won't get their keys back. [Geaton777]
Karsten Aug 2023
My aunt (for whom we just had a 100 yo birthday party last week and still lives at home alone, albeit with lots of help from my cousins) was driving until age 97 and would not quit. Her kids tried to stop her, but also knew if she stopped, it would mean more chauffeuring duties for them.

She got pulled over for some bone headed move, and was basically issued some kind of order which temporarily revoked her license until she passed another test. I am guessing the officer knew she would not pass a test, but by this method it kind of puts the ball back in the elderly person's court.

It was winter, so my aunt thought she would wait until spring to take test, at which time she realized she should not be driving

I dont know if this procedure is state specific but I found it a good way to in a sense take away a license without actually taking it away.
NeedHelpWithMom Aug 2023
Karsten,

My cousin who is 100 talks about her upcoming plans like she is never going to die! LOL 😆

She still drives! Gets speeding tickets! Her children have given up on what to do. I wish they would pass a law where seniors have to take a driving test more often. Our license is good for four years. Seniors should certainly have to renew their licenses before four years.

My cousin is an energizer bunny! She lives in a senior independent apartment all alone, no walker! She cooks, cleans and helps the other seniors in her apartment building! She’s quite unusual for her age.
AlvaDeer Aug 2023
You don't have POA. You don't indicate that she is demented. And she has a license back.l
In short, there's not a thing you can do but hope and pray she doesn't have to live with injuring someone ELSE on the roads before she dies. Your dilemma is all too common. Too many don't give up their licenses. My own brother only gave his up at 84 after a very serious accident that resulted in his diagnosis of probable early Lewy's dementia.

As with so many things, you aren't in control of this. Be certain never to ride in the car with her, and advise others likewise. You have done your best. Just take this one off your plate.
NeedHelpWithMom Oct 2023
My cousin drives at 100! She hasn’t crashed her car but she does get speeding tickets! 🤣

Then she tries to shame the cop for giving her a ticket! Or she will tell him that her grandson is a cop. She still gets the ticket and is miffed.

I have stopped telling her that it probably isn’t a good idea to drive because I am not one of her children. Actually, they have given up too.

She still lives alone in her senior apartment. She won’t go to assisted living because she says that it costs too much and that the “old” people in her building need her help with cooking and cleaning.

We call this tiny woman who is barely 100 lbs the energizer bunny! I kind of feel like one day she is just going to drop dead!

She doesn’t have any major health issues. She loves stylish clothes and loves going out to lunch with her friends.

Not many people have this quality of life at her age! I’m amazed at her attitude. She will talk about what she’s planning to do in the upcoming year!
Llamalover47 Aug 2023
Scotlandis4me: Disable the vehicle by any means possible before she commits possible vehicular manslaughter.
Southernwaver Aug 2023
Yea, I mean the state doesn’t need to take her DL away for the family to put an end to it.
GettinaGrip Aug 2023
"I'm gonna do what I want," meaning, "I'm losing control of everything else in my life so if I still do these things I'm independent and not sick/ill/etc." The last grasp of control. Please get your mom to stop driving in whatever way you are able. And I am sorry you are in this situation. I'm lucky that mom was all too glad to give up driving even before she got frail-er. We're getting ready to sell her old cars, probably get a buck and a half for them, but oh well. And when the day comes for me, I know I won't mind because I absolutely despise driving. I've lived in a major metropolitan all my life that will turn you against driving in the worst way.

When I hear about seniors who won't give up the keys, I think of the story of George Weller. Google it if you haven't heard of it before.

Witnesses were quoted as hearing him say, "Well you shoulda gotten out of my way!"
Southernwaver Aug 2023
I hate driving too. If I win mega millions, I’m buying a driver lol (southerwaver)
NeedHelpWithMom Aug 2023
Years ago, I was hit in my child’s preschool parking lot by a grandmother who was dropping off her grandchild at preschool.

She slammed into my car and caused quite a bit of damage. Then, she foolishly tried to drive away from the accident.

I immediately wrote down her license plate number and called the police. I didn’t have a camera on my cellphone back then.

She tells me, “Honey, I have stuffed peppers baking in my oven that I need to tend to.”

My response was, “Lady, I don’t care what you are cooking! I am missing physical therapy because you plowed into my car! You are going to wait for the police to come and make a report!”

She says, “My daughter is going to be so upset that I had an accident.” I said, ‘Well, I am sorry about that but you are not going anywhere until the police speak with you to file a report.’

So, the cop came to the scene and she proceeded to lie to the officer. This old lady was working on my last nerve!

She told the cop that the accident was my fault! The cop took one look at my car and discreetly said to me that he could tell by the damage that she hit me.

Thank Goodness she had insurance. Her daughter never allowed her to drive her child to school ever again.

My 100 year old cousin still drives. It’s ridiculous! The DMV worker asked her boss, “What do I do? This woman is 100 years old!” The boss said, “If she passes her eye exam she can get a license.”

My cousins can’t stop their mom from driving. She is stubborn! They don’t live near their mom.

My cousin tells off the cops when she gets speeding tickets driving to Walmart, dollar store, lunch with friends, grocery, doctor appointments and church!

I think seniors should have to take driving tests more frequently than they do. In Louisiana it is every four years.
Southernwaver Aug 2023
Once her insurance company pulls a rating, she will lose her insurance.
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