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AllieMot Asked October 2023

2 years of funds required to enter MC or AL? Mother is possibly facing eviction from independent living.

My 76 year old mother rents an apartment at an independent 62+ community.
I learned yesterday that she has been causing problems in the community and is on the verge of eviction.
They can do that with just 14 days notice from my understanding of the law.


 


I believe she has about 50k in savings and gets a SS check (around 1500?).


 


I am learning that facilities want to see 2 years of funds at admission.
Is this the norm?


 


I am scrambling to find a place.


 


I don’t know what to do with her if I can’t place her.


 


if anyone has any advice on this type of eviction or what I can do to get her placed, please advise.

JoAnn29 Dec 28, 2023
This is from Oct. 17th. So hope the OP got it all straightened out by now. OP has only posted this question and only answered on day she posted.

AlvaDeer Dec 28, 2023
She is in independent living.
That would indicate she is competent and she is capable of arranging her own living and controlling her own behavior?
Why are you involved, and what is this behavior problem issue? Because let alone funds, no ALF is going to want someone with behavior issues.

If you are dealing with someone with a personality disorder or other mental issues you are quite honestly wise not to become POA, not to be overly involved. I recommend reading the memoir by Liz Scheier called Never Simple; Ms S. tried to deal with a mother with mental issues for decades and was unable to manage it even with the assistance of city and state of New York. Not everything can be fixed.

I can't know the condition and problems involved with your Mom overall unless you fill us in a bit more on all that is involved and what your role is, and whether or not other family members are involved. I welcome you to forum and hope you will fill in your profile information.

Just from the little that you have told us, if you feel your mother is incompetent to act in her own behalf, I would call APS and report her as a senior evicted and at risk.

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jemfleming Dec 28, 2023
From the behavior you describe, she may have on on-going UTI or beginning stages of dementia. Get a medical evaluation and stall the eviction process by making it clear that you are exploring medical issues. Put it in writing to the landlord so they can’t say they didn’t know. Use e-mail or certified mail directly to the person in charge. That may buy you time. Find out if she can qualify for Medicaid and get busy finding a facility. Enlist state help if needed. Good luck.

JoAnn29 Oct 2023
Your Mom needs a good physical. Labs and Neurological. You replied that she is BiPolar and not taking her meds is a big thing. Does her independent living have an option of them dispensing her meds for a charge? That would be part of your problem solved. Ask for time to have her evaluated. She now does need an AL or MC if she can be trusted to take her meds.

50k would only cover maybe 10 months of AL. I would take that 50k and pay for long-term care privately and start the Medicaid application not long after she is placed. Then she can go right into Medicaid from private pay. The facility needs to except Medicaid. You need to get that evaluation to determine she now is 24/7 care.

Even though Independent living is privately owned, IMO they are just like apartments. You need to read Moms lease to see what it says about her leaving and them evicting. Its usually 30 days notice both ways. If she does not leave in thatv14 days or 30, IMO they have to go to court to evict. Call your County housing authority to see how it works. For now, I would ask for time to get her a place. Keep the IL in the loop. If they can't dispense Moms meds, then you will need to see she takes them. Maybe time she takes her meals in her apt. Maybe hire someone to sit with her for now.

BarbBrooklyn Oct 2023
If your mother has had a sudden change in mental status, you need to consult with her doc or get her to the ER.

Urinary Tract Infections cause these kinds of symptoms in the elderly. Make sure she gets tested asap.

againx100 Oct 2023
Her symptoms sound very much like dementia. Could be a UTI? Have her tested tomorrow, just in case.

She could certainly benefit from some meds, at least for her panic attacks. There must be a lot people trying to get into these AL/MC units if they can require 2 years of rent to let people in. Wow.

Maybe you could get a part-time aide for her (with her money) to make sure she is taking her meds, etc.

ZippyZee Oct 2023
What kind of problems is she causing?
AllieMot Oct 2023
Saying nasty things to people, accusing people of stealing, wanting to report people and have meetings over the theft, disrupting activities with accusations. She’s had a couple of panic attacks in the common areas.
Residents and employees are very concerned and uneasy. I completely understand why.
AlvaDeer Oct 2023
Nursing home if you can't find MC. They are privately run, the MC. They don't want to admit someone who cannot stay. It wastes their time. They do cherry-pick. As there are now limited funds the best choice is a nursing home, spend down and then Medicaid, which is not accepted by ALF and MC usually.
AllieMot Oct 2023
Will nursing home accept her if she is showing short term memory loss and has some psychiatric issues? She is diagnosed bipolar and depressive. Her medications have been helping for many years but I believe she is missing doses or needs an adjustment or they aren’t working anymore.
Southernwaver Oct 2023
Is there any mitigation that can be done to end the problems she is causing in her community?
AlvaDeer Oct 2023
Independent living is just that. The senior must be ready, willing and able to live independently. They would not be asking her to leave were she able to do so, would be my thinking.

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