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FallingWaters Asked April 15, 2024

So confused.

I'm so confused right now and I don't have anyone to talk to about this so here I am again.
Please see my previous posts.
The last contact I had with my mother (before the following situation), was her phone call to me, accusing me of trying to cheat my sibling out of her house (that she and I had been discussing my buying).
After that, I didn't have any contact with her for a month. I didn't call her and she didn't call me.
Then, I get an email from my sibling, telling me that mother is going into assisted living and tells him that I will be moving into her house when she does, to prevent anyone breaking in.
This is a house she's lived in for 50 years, with close neighbors who are all decent people, except for one who has apparently gone off the rails and was in trouble for drug charges.
Anyway, my mother got it into her head that this neighbor will break into her house if she's not there.
So she tells my sibling I'll be moving into her house to guard/protect it........?
My sibling emails me again and apparently is stressed out because mother is getting rather upset about the situation and is driving him bonkers.
I called her to find out WTH is going on and why she is telling him I will be moving into her house when no such discussion was done.
I DID tell her I'd move into her house but that was when I offered to buy it.
Anyway, she basically says she "doesn't remember" or didn't say anything about my cheating my brother, etc.....
I didn't know what to say or do; she just takes it for granted I'm going to move into her house to "protect" it....so I deduced the only way I would do that is if I take ownership of it because why else would I do it?
So she says she will either give me the house or sell it to me, whichever I prefer.
I have no idea what to do about all this.
I don't want to go down there and move into her house; it's 10 hrs. from me and my husband.
At one point I did offer to buy her home but that was before she accused me of being a thief and trying to cheat my sibling.
I just don't want to do it.
She offered to give me the house but I really don't want anything to do with any of it but somehow I feel obligated.
She is going to be 98 next month!
None of this makes any sense to me and I'm wondering now if maybe she does have some dementia, but I can't find out if she has been diagnosed because I'm not on her medical records or anything and she was apparently seemed competent enough to sign her own DNR order a few months ago. Whoever heard of someone waiting til they're in their nineties to take care of business?


 


I also told her she needs to put me on her bank account (I meant as a beneficiary), and she wanted to know why that was necessary. She is absolutely clueless about everything. The only people she pays attention to is her doctors. I have no idea what she has already signed, who knows.


 


Typing this up I feel like my best course of action is to wash my hands of the entire matter.


 


I have no way to find anything out because I'm not on her medical records, I can't call anyone to find out anything. When I call her, she literally can't hear me, she's hard of hearing. I called her yesterday at the assisted living center and she couldn't hear a word I said, even though I was yelling.
ETA: I did call her doctor's office a while back but of course, they wouldn't return my call as I'm not on her medical and so they aren't going to tell me anything.

Southernwaver Apr 15, 2024
It sounds like her house if she you and your siblings to inherit after she dies, is it not? Then you all can decide to sell it or one of you can but the other out.

NeedHelpWithMom Apr 15, 2024
FW,

Don’t get tied up with your mom’s issues.

Only do what you want to do. I thought that you were stepping away from your mom for a while.
FallingWaters Apr 15, 2024
I do want to step away; I don't want anything to do with any of this.

I don't want her to even call me; I guess I'll have to block the number.

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FallingWaters Apr 15, 2024
Update: she just called me from the AL place, told me her cable tv needs to be turned off - asked me to do it.

I can't do it; I'm not POA. They won't do it just because I tell them to.
ArtistDaughter Apr 15, 2024
Did she know why her cable tv needs to be turned off? The one at her house or at AL? Remarkable if she remembers that she had cable at her house when she thinks she doesn't have to pay for AL. I think you actually can tell them to turn it off on her behalf. I did a lot of those thing for my mom when my brother was POA and couldn't cope. Or have someone at the AL call the cable company and the company will ask to here her voice in agreement. I'm sorry she didn't make it easier for you.
Hothouseflower Apr 15, 2024
Get an alarm system for her house. I would consider selling it if she isn’t on Medicaid. I’m going through the same thing. My siblings and I are worried about our parents’ house being empty. We want to unload it as soon as we can.

Fawnby Apr 15, 2024
Your mother most likely has more than "some dementia," and her hearing problem contributes to her brain being unable to work properly. She has lost executive function, which means that she can't figure out problems, and even if she does, she won't know what actions to take. So you're dealing with someone who can't hear, can't think, can't understand, can't remember, and she confabulates to fill in the blanks. That's why you get different stories at different times. She's paranoid about her neighbor, another symptom of dementia.

I live with this every day with my husband. What your mother has is fairly unmistakable to me. (I am not a doctor but have provided home caregiving for four family members who had dementia.)

You have to proceed on the basis of what you observe rather than input from medical people, which you've indicated that you're not likely to get.

You'd be wise to stay out of all of this. You'll never convince her of anything about anything now, so no point in getting all upset and trying to fix things. There's no fixing. Unfortunately, too many elders wait too late to take care of their final exit plans. I'm sorry you're having to deal with this. I hope you can gently extricate yourself and send her a card now and then, as others suggested. No further involvement is necessary.

lealonnie1 Apr 15, 2024
"When I call her, she literally can't hear me, she's hard of hearing. I called her yesterday at the assisted living center and she couldn't hear a word I said, even though I was yelling."

Mom can probably hear you......she likely cannot comprehend the WORDS you are saying. I realized that with my own mother after yelling loudly at her in person and still she "couldn't hear me". She had a puzzled look on her face. It dawned on me the dementia was causing her to not understand my words! It sure sounds like your mom IS suffering from dementia based on the things she's saying and doing. Being hard of hearing contributes mightily to dementia as well.

Best of well.

AlvaDeer Apr 15, 2024
Thank you for this post update of two hours ago: I copy it below.

"This forum is great! After reading my own post, I realized how absurd the entire matter is.
She is in a good AL facility, told me she loves it, so there is no reason I should feel obligated to move to where she is.
I emailed my sibling and told him I am not moving down there."

I think this is a very wise decision. First things first: without excellent attorney advice you could not buy her home. You would have to pay fair market value and the money would go into her accounts, thusly precluding her getting any Medicaid help if indeed she is getting that; it could throw her status into chaos. Neither you nor your brother would be able to manage any of that because you are not her POAs.
You observe that she is currently in good care. That's great. Send her a weekly pretty card and note and they will read it to her at the facility; when I used to write my brother's ex I always put on outside of envelope "Please read to D. " and they always did that.
Should your mother pass at this ripe old age of 98 and she has made no plans she will die "intestate" and the money will be in her estate, accounts and home. Either you or your brother at that time will be appointed as "administrator" by the local county court and will gather estate together, sell home, divide the assets as per state law.

This will be a lot of work and cooperation for the two of you. Try not to take it all on now until you have to. You can also ask for a court appointed administrator to do all the work for a fee, and if neither of you live there, that's what I would do. They will empty home and sell it, and etc.

I wish you the best of luck.
FallingWaters Apr 15, 2024
Thank you, and what a great idea about the card.
I wanted to avoid probate but it seems inescapable because she just doesn't care.
JoAnn29 Apr 15, 2024
I too hope a Financial and Medical POA are in place. If not, if she understands what they are, brother needs to get her to a lawyer now before there is a diagnosis of Dementia. As FPOA he can sell the house and use the proceeds for her care.

At 98 there is probably some cognitive decline but would not hurt to get her tested.
FallingWaters Apr 15, 2024
There is no POA that I know of. And brother can't do anything as he lives across the country.
Daughterof1930 Apr 15, 2024
Someone needs to be on her banking, not as a beneficiary, but because of needing access to her funds to pay her bills at a time when she cannot. Her home needs to be sold to pay for her ongoing care. Disregard any talk of the house needing to be guarded or protected, it just needs to be gone entirely. Hopefully, someone has POA and the authority to make this happen. Don’t be hurt over things your mother now says, she’s no longer responsible for her words or actions as her behaviors strongly indicate dementia has taken over. You’ll have to decide what level of involvement you can handle, mom definitely needs oversight at this point, even if it’s from a distance with little actual contact. If you’re not the best person for this, it’s okay, I wish you peace
FallingWaters Apr 15, 2024
She said people don't expect you to pay bills if you're in a nursing home. She has no clue.
Debmiller Apr 15, 2024
Falling Waters: Having grown up with a father who had severe hearing loss, the immense confusion in your family does not surprise me. In my father's case, he made little effort to compensate for his hearing loss such as looking at the speaker, ask speaker to please repeat, reminding others of hearing problem, wearing his hearing aids, etc. It really impacted family relationships.
I now have hearing loss and make every effort I know of to "hear" what is being said. It is a huge factor. You might consider the hearing issue while navigating through issues with your mother and brother.
FallingWaters Apr 15, 2024
I have considered it but if someone knows they're HOH and don't want to get a hearing aide, there's not a lot anyone can do for them. My late FIL was the same way, he couldn't hear squat. Eventually, people just stopped directing conversation to him. It was sad.
FallingWaters Apr 15, 2024
This forum is great! After reading my own post, I realized how absurd the entire matter is.

She is in a good AL facility, told me she loves it, so there is no reason I should feel obligated to move to where she is.

I emailed my sibling and told him I am not moving down there.

Thanks for listening.

Geaton777 Apr 15, 2024
Do us a favor and post the links to your previous posts so we don't have to hunt them down. Thanks.
JoAnn29 Apr 15, 2024
All her posts are under "following".
MeDolly Apr 15, 2024
Just say NO, I am not moving into her house. Period, end of conversation.

At age 98, she should be in AL, house sold, proceeds used to fund AL and everyone move on. Yes visit her while in AL, make sure she is comfortable and properly cared for but go on with your life.

Unfortunately many make no plans for their elderly years, very common.

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