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My mom is 82. She lives with my sister and her family. I spend my time between helping with mom (in PA) and going home (NJ). For the past year my mom has become so obsessed with everything being done ASAP. She mentions something and if we don’t get to it immediately she does it. It is driving us nuts. We are busy, we all work outside of the home and we do things on our timeframe. Example: mom will say we need chicken from the freezer downstairs. If someone doesn’t go down and get it immediately, there she goes downstairs to get it. UGGGH. Another example…I could be on a meeting, she will knock on the door and I shake my head no. She will then write a note, open the door and want me to read the note. The note was not important and could have waited. I am getting so frustrated! Oh the washing machine dings it is done…she tells us, we don't jump to transfer it and there she is transferring it. Help!

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So... I realize I'm late to the party here, but I empathize with this as well as my mom has become more and more like this as she ages.

In reading through the responses, I'm not seeing a lot of actual suggestions other than "ignore her / let her do it" or rarely, "just do it for her."

So here are my thoughts, fwiw at this point:
1) Has she actually been evaluated for dementia? Given that, has she been evaluated for anxiety, or can her PCP help with medication for anxiety? You didn't mention anything about her physical condition - is it safe for her to do things like getting the chicken downstairs, or not (and that's what's making you worried)?

2) How does she do with understanding time in general? When she demands something, would setting a timer (a physical one, like a twist-on kitchen timer she can see move) help with her understanding statements like, "I'll get the chicken in 10 minutes when I'm done this other task?"

3) Would putting up a whiteboard or pad of paper on your office door give her a physical way of writing down what she needs when you're in a meeting, and help relieve the fear of forgetting? That would of course require her understanding the boundary if you're in the meeting, she writes it down and then when you come out you will read it and that's it.

Hope this helps... Good luck in any case!
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Daughterinlaw56 Nov 2021
Great ideas! Thank you. She does not have a diagnosis of dementia, she is pretty sharp although we see some things slipping. She is in an anxiety med already because the past 2 years she is becoming upset easily and yes she has major pain from various conditions so standing and climbing stairs is scary.
i love the idea of the whiteboard on my office door!!
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Yes this is normal and completly irritating!!! My 78 year old mom does it all the time. No matter if we are in the middle of something or can't get to it right away, if she wants us to do something it has to be right THEN and NOW! She expect us to cater to her every whim and if we don't she will do it herself in a very aggressive and theatrical manner to let everyone know how pissed off she is that we didn't comply with her onset demand. For example we were eating dinner and she didn't want to eat just yet. She came to us and demanded her cat box needed changing. When we told her we would do it when we were done eating she said it was smelling up her room and she couldn't stand it. We repeated what we just told her and she went back to her room and slammed her door. She litteraly expected us to stop eating our dinner to change her cat box! Then she came out of her room dragging a trash bag with the litter in it demanding we open the back door for her so she could throw it out in the trashcans out by the ally. Now mind you she needs two shoulder replacements and cat litter is heavy. After that it was a period of slamming and banging things. Another night we asked her if she was going to be hungry in about an hour because we were cooking dinner and she said no. We sat down and ate when it was done. About another hour went by, so two hours after we originally asked her and she walked out of her room and went into the kitchen. She started slamming the cupboards, the refrigerator and then the microwave. When we asked her what was wrong she started yelling and cussing at us saying " I'll just make my own dinner since I have to fuc---- do everything around here myself anyways!" We were so confuse. This started an argument with her about her silent expectations and onset demands. This has been going on now for about two years and getting worse with time. We were her cartakers through IHSS and quit because she was verbally abusive and emotionally abusive calling us filthy names and cussing us out saying we never do anything for her. She still lives with us and we told her to call IHSS and get a new caretaker. Its been over a month now and she hasn't contacted IHSS yet as she is playing the sympathy card and the battle of the wills. She is so exausting! She still tries to get us to do things for her at the drop of a dime and now we just tell her " We told you to get another caretaker. Call IHSS! " She is realizing all we actually did for her that now she has to do herself but her pride is still getting the best of her. People like this need qualifide caretakers and that we are not. So don't be afraid to tell them NO! when they place those demands on you. I realized my mom learned to become helpless with all we did for her. Yes she is disabled but she also has learned helplessness.
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Yes, to pretty much anything...as in an extreme version; like yesterday, maybe tomorrow, too hot or too cold etc..
With my Mom, she's fixated on the start of winter anytime it was below 80°F; even in the middle of summer for the last 4 years; and that she was exhausted & wanted to take a nap. It seem that whatever mood they were in, what they were feeling, or the stresses they were dealing with at the time their Dementia set it; it will magnify that feeling 10X from then on. As far as her doctors & myself can figure out; her Dementia set in sometime in the late fall/early winter of 2014. She just retired that past May and would forget she retired starting in March/April the following year along with the first signs of "hating the fact that winter's coming". I've been hearing that for the last 6/7 years. BTW, my Mom also developed The Bionic Woman hearing like your Mom. She can hear me sneeze over her TV, with neighbors on both sides cutting the grass; at the same time; while I'm upstairs in bed, on my only day off. It doesn't matter what time of day or day of the week it is now, she'll pound relentlessly on the wall til I come downstairs; she's lost the ability to reason time of day.
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This is a huge problem for me with my Dad! He's always complaining that everybody takes too long to do things for him. What I tell him is "I'm not 911"
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Moonjeans Nov 2021
I LOVE it…telling your Dad in a LOVING way to “suck it up, buttercup”? 😅 Humor DOES go a long way. I just gave my sweet 80-yr-old hubby this website and the current response about seniors requiring caregivers to function in THEIR own time frame. He really chuckled and his response was quite understanding 😉 He said that may be how the “patient” is trying to keep their sanity in the difficult situation they find themselves…
(1) living in a family “caregiver” situation is not easy
for patient OR for their various family members 😵‍💫
(2) their situation/disability (diagnosed Parkinson’s
Disease in his case, after suffering a moderate
stroke) goes against the grain of the independent
nature he always had … a huge frustration 🤯
(3) for someone who NEVER wanted to be late for
anything, we accommodate this part of his nature
by arranging our time frame starting 1/2 hr earlier
than I would normally do it (appointments, etc).
He still asks when lunch will be ready (at 10am😉)
(4) family caregivers need RESPITE care for family
member/patients if they are working at home and
have young children or are a similar age as their
“patient”, as in our case 🙃 Often the form of
respite can come in the form of at-home help if
it is challenging to get them out to PT/OT and
other care (Speech/Swallow/Cognitive therapy).
They can be considered for Palliative (at-home)
Care which gives family caregiver respite breaks.

Patient’s DR is a great source to relieve caregiver’s
frustration, where appropriate and warranted for
Medicare coverage consideration … each situation
is unique 🤗
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OMG, so relatable!! I think in my mother's case, it's because her memory is going and she doesn't want to forget. I joked with the doctor that her memory is declining, but she still manages to obsess over things. If she has an appointment the following day, even if it's not until 11 a.m., she'll be up before 6 "because it takes her a long time to get ready." It does take her longer than your average joe, but not that long! LOL
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Let her do things if she thinks they are so instantly important. The note whilst you are on the phone a but more difficult. Has she been assessed for dementia? If she is mentally "with it" then you need to set down rules, and use the I'll do it later. If she cannot live in other people's time lines for activities or work tell her she will have to go to assisted living. If she does have dementia then unfortunately you have to work with the stages and perhaps have someone to sit with her whilst you have some time to concentrate on work.
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I can see how frustrating that would be. However, she seems willing and able (although maybe not safely?) to do things on her own, and even seems to be trying to help out with daily tasks like unloading the washing machine. She is probably bored and looking for things to keep busy. After she says something needs to get done, and you tell her you will get to it - what is she doing? Just sitting there thinking about it? I can see how that would also be frustrating at her age, feeling helpless. My dad does the same thing to me. He will say something needs to be done and if I dont do it immediately, he won't do it himself, he will continuously remind me until it gets done.

If there are things she can do herself safely without harming anything, then I'd say let her do it. Maybe even encourage some independence, so she isn't so bored. Maybe find her a hobby to do or delegate certain chores or tasks she can do around the house (folding laundry?) so she feels needed and not like a bump on a log. If that doesn't work, then the only other thing to do is talk to her about it (boundaries) and assure her you will get things done on your own time and you dont need her to do it.
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Yes, mom could do some of these things herself. You may have to ask her to do it...or ask her to wait until later when you have time
(If possible, you might tell her when). Whatever you do, don't jump to meet her demands unless they are urgent and she can't take care of them herself. Try not to stress over this. Respond matter-of-factly. She can wait if she has to.

I don't think you can assume dementia.
When you are her age, time passes slowly. Believe me, I know! It's hard to wait when you don't have much to do. When you haven't a lot to occupy your mind, all you can think about is what needs to be done.
The suggestion about senior day care is a good one. If she has something to do, something else to occupy her mind, it will be easier for her to be patient.
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Daughterinlaw56: Imho, wherein lies the problem of her retrieving the chicken, per se? Quite obviously, she was successful, else you would have stated otherwise. On the other items, if she is physically able to accomplish these tasks, it is one or two or multiple things off your "to do" list -a win win UNLESS she is harming herself in doing so.
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Daughterinlaw56, let's say your name is Patty. Get steno pads and good pencils or pens. On the cover of the steno pad write your name, dates/days and times available. And on the top line of at least the first ten pages, write the date and time you're coming next and the words: Things I'd like Patty to help me do.
Also/or get the biggest dry erase board (mine is about 18"x15") and Velcro it to the fridge or area close by the place your mom occupies most. Using an indelible ink marker write at the top "Things I'd like Patty to Help Me Accomplish" add a little cartoon drawing of a flower and smiley face with a bow on top. If you're a guy doing this put a bow under the smiley face. Leave a dry erase marker on a string near the board. Let her erase the tasks as you do them or do the task together.
When she does things herself tell her how you are genuinely impressed and appreciate her efforts. If she's got dementia, she's a little kid and needs pats on the head and encouraging words. "Man, when I'm your age I hope to be a good as you are". Or "you're giving me the courage of facing my senior years more positively".
You and I know it's a big ball of eye-crossing screwiness that makes you want to bang your head against a wall, (I'm living it everyday for 15 years), but they are whacky innocent babes behind that old sometimes hardened unsmiling faces, and they would be lost without you. Forgive me for being myself.
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Why are you not letting her do what she can? If she can get the chicken safely, let her. If she can transfer the laundry safely, why the issue?
Is this unsafe?
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I think it is kind of normal, however, my mom has always been that way- everything was an emergency and had to be done right now. She is the same age as your mom- 82- but her mobility is not good so she can't do a lot of things herself. She will call me from her cell phone and/or yell for me, or bang on the walls to get my attention. At no time has any of this been a true emergency, but in her mind it has been. I am frequently in meetings and it can be irritating. I keep reminding her that I can't retire yet. :) So, things will get done on my timeframe and then I brace myself for the complaints lol.
If your mom can do things herself, that's great! I would encourage her to do what she can safely. Then, she can get things done in her timeline, which happens to be right away.
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if she can do stuff for herself, let her do it...my mother is 86 and does the same thing, plus she doesn't cooperate with any solutions I mention to her...The chicken thing?...even if you went downstairs to get some chicken, you might get the wrong chicken, then it's an argument ...She just don't want to give up control over the household in her mind...until her body won't let her, it will be like this...Just like getting the car keys from my Dad, what a nightmare!
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My dad is similar. I think they know they will forget somehow. And are very afraid we'll forget. They see it as "trying to help". They are certainly afraid we'll forget something with the finances, or the housework, if that's their major concern. He is unable to get the wash or the chicken out of the freezer. I know they are trying to retain some autonomy. I have encouraged a "slow down ", as I've got many tasks on my list.
Maybe, a kind , " Mom, we will get to that, I must keep track of my work schedule"
Even his doctors tell him to slow down with "needs" at appointments.
I'd call it anxiety. These elders would never admit to that!
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What's wrong with her doing things for herself if it isn't convenient for someone else to do them? I'm not challenging, I'm asking - what are the concerns about this?

Waiting around for other people to do something you feel you can manage yourself - or even that you can't manage, but it's bugging you - that's frustrating too.
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I would put a lock on the basement door too before she falls down the stairs.
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Tell her in a firm voice what you said here.
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My father would expect me to leave work to fix his remote. He could not understand why that was not an option. Or I could come after work...but I had kids in daycare and didn't have spare time to stop before I had to pick them up. Why couldn't "someone else" (and who is SOMEONE ELSE) pick up my kids so I could take care of his needs?
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Why does she ask you to do things instead of doing them herself?
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Ask her to 'rank' the urgency, like with a list or numbers: top priority, medium, etc. Let her know you Hear her need and that it will be done but when you can; this seems like a person who has aways been very capable, able to 'multi-task', always 'on top of things', etc., but now finds themselves needing help and it is a completely foreign and scary concept. Yes, it's 'controlling' and somewhat understandable when aging seems to make life out of control. Try to build in some humor and hope she realizes her fretting; my own mom had that household 'philosophy' of 'if you want something done right you have to do it yourself.' Help mom develop some patience and trust; have her make a list and see that things will get 'checked off'. She is obsessing, needs to get things 'off her mind'...so let them go 'on the list.'
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Anxiety and insecurity increase the tendency for needing things to be done immediately (or to be at appointments early or any number of other compulsive behaviors.) Maybe your mom could do with a little Xanax.
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I'm 79. I have the same tendency as your mom. I know I should control myself, so I try not to bother anyone. I live alone, so I end up bothering myself instead. My big trigger is financial tasks. I get a letter from AmEx stating that I need to renew my account. It could wait. But it's so much easier to act immediately to reduce my anxiety. I recently started watching videos by Patrick Teahan on YouTube. He stated that people with high anxiety (possibly due to childhood issues) often have no tolerance for waiting. I was raised by many different caretakers, so I often feel vulnerable to loss. Is it awful that your mother ends up rushing to complete so many unnecessary tasks? Does she end up blaming you that you don't share her worry or immediately jump to help her? My husband and I used to argue over when I could use the computer that we shared. I would ask, "Can I use it?" and he would reply, "Yes," which I interpreted to mean right away--but actually meant in about 1/2 hour or whenever he got finished with his computer task. Did her behavior change? Is she getting worse? Does she expect you to help on her time frame? Does she need to wait? If she can get things done herself, is it bad for her to do them? From my own experience, she is acting to reduce anxiety about something that needs attention. You aren't going to persuade her that her desire to get it done immediately is ridiculous. You might get her to appreciate that you don't see the same urgency. Maybe you can interview her to see what her viewpoint is. Did you make a promise that you would help her--and you didn't realize that her definition of help is an immediate response which to you is unnecessary. Maybe you could reach an agreement that you will respond immediately with acknowledgement and then indicate when you will do it and she can do it first if she doesn't want to wait? Are you afraid she will injure herself? Or is she implying that you are deficient in some way which bothers you? Say more about why this bothers you.
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And I thought it was just my Mother. Very frustrating.
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ha ha. I was trying so hard to finish NOW that I created 2 posts. Haste makes waste.
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My ILs do this. They don't have dementia, but everything comes with equal levels of urgency: their cat box needing cleaning, the dad being admitted with a stroke, the dad not liking the view, or not wanting to see his birthday present anymore. Or mom wants her downstairs stairs painted in laminate white (she won't go down them anymore) or mom wanting the washing machine lifted with a skirt so that there's less bending.

It's all the same. It's all emergent. They do this especially to paid Brother's Wife, and paid Brother's Wife parrots this to "family" to help for free unlike her. However, when the indy comes, the demanding stops. They have more boundaries with the indy.
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My hubby does that on occasion. He says he doesn't but I know better. If he wants something done, and I don't do it pretty quick, then I hear about it - it will stay on his mind. So I try and just take care of what he needs. He has vascular dementia from a stroke, and I think that's why.
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Not so strange, I am 87 and as a 9 year old with a 35yo mother if I didn't react immediately to her requested chores she did them.
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Old people get dementia and get worse daily. They have no idea of time and they want what they want when they want it and don't care or realize what others have to do. If you absolutely cannot stop it and life is getting to be extremely difficult for everyone as a result, then she needs to be placed so you have a life. Sad but true. Nothing is going to sink in and you will be in constant misery. Old people make their beds and must lie in the consequences. We have a right to live too.
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You might want to write down her requests to show her you have "received the message." You might also give her a timeframe when you will do as she asked.

She might also need something to occupy her time and her focus. She may not have anything and feels bored or lonely.
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Her reasoning skills are not as sharp anymore and she is fixated on what needs to be done before she forgets. My Dad used to do this all the time - interrupting me countless times if I was conversing with someone else, or on the phone, or in another room. One time I yelled why can't you wait, can't you see I'm talking to someone else?! and he said, "I have to tell you before I forget".
This is a sign of age related memory loss. Another cause is many elderly have nothing else to keep them occupied other than these small tasks, and it makes them feel relevant. If she is able to do some of those tasks, like transferring the laundry - just let her do it. You may also be able to disable ding on the washer and dryer. I would install a hook and eye lock up high on the basement door so she's not going up and down those stairs. Not much more I can offer here.
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