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I read ur other posts. It seems there is some dysfunction in your family. Why was a grandchild made POA over one of Moms own children? And why is a grandchild caring for her grandmother and not one of the children. If the children cannot care for Mom, which is OK, why is Mom not in a care facility? See, I don't think grands should be caring for grandparents when there are children.
As I answered in one of your posts, POAs are not obligated to give out any info concerning the principle. Especially financially. But, unless for some reason you and your siblings upset Mom, a POA has not right to keep Moms children away.
What you need to do is call APS. Tell them you are not allowed to see Mom. Maybe they will investigate the situation. If they don't help, then you all need to get together and hire a lawyer. We as a forum can point you in the right direction but cannot solve a dysfunctional family problem.
My mother fell NINETY FIVE TIMES while living in Assisted Living and Memory Care Assisted Living over a period of 8 years. It wasn't "elder abuse" and most of the times, the falls were not witnessed. Falling out of bed is VERY common for an elder, especially with dementia.
Again, you are trying to build a case against your sibling for "elder abuse" you'll need to speak to an elder care attorney for guidance. Or call APS to investigate the situation at your sisters home, which will further alienate her from you.
Putting a question entirely into a header w/o details makes it pretty tough for us to give you decent comments.
Sabrina, this is your forth post to us in a 24 hour period. Each post gives us a tiny piece of the puzzle. For those with difficulty putting puzzles together it is difficult to advise you. You are clearly at war with the sibling and Niece who your MOTHER CHOSE as her POA. They will not currently let you even visit nor give you any medical information, and unless they are the epitome of EVIL (I doubt that) there is a reason for that. I can only guess that you are causing disruption in this rather than trying to help in their care of your Mom.
I honestly think that no Forum can properly guess at what is actually happening here, but the manner of your postings to us has caused me to attempt to do so. I would suggest that you see an elder law attorney to help you with options moving forward. You may also, if you suspect abuse as you indicated in other postings, give said proof to APS and ask them to investigate for you.
When families divide over the care of an incompetent senior it is a cruel thing. This senior, while at her most vulnerable and helpless has a family at war, rather than joined in her care. I hope all will now make an attempt to act in an adult manner, at least for the duration that the senior must endure.
"I am concerned about my Mother. She is living with my younger sibling, and she has made it very difficult for us, the other siblings, to see our Mom. We are trying to figure out a way to see her."
This is the poster whose niece has POA and cannot speak to mom's doctor.
I would take a deep breath and speak to them together.
I am sure the trauma of being present during such a severe injury has scrambled some memories for both of them. Not to mention that we all experience and perceive situations entirely personally, meaning varying stories from all present.
Unless you have reason to believe that she is being harmed intentionally, give them the benefit of understanding how awful this was for them and that you aren't looking to place responsibility on them. Because the truth is, old people fall and break bones but, bones will spontaneously break and cause a fall, nobody is to blame, it's life.
If you do not think your mother is safe you can report to the Elder Abuse number in your State and they will investigate. Is your sister POA? If you do not think she is doing a proper job, if you do not think she is properly caring for mom you could petition to become your mom's Guardian. this would mean going to court. It would mean having to prove that your sister is not doing what she should be doing. And you may need to prove your mom is not safe. This will RUIN any relationship you have with your sister and your niece and any other family members that align with her in this matter.
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APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
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We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
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As I answered in one of your posts, POAs are not obligated to give out any info concerning the principle. Especially financially. But, unless for some reason you and your siblings upset Mom, a POA has not right to keep Moms children away.
What you need to do is call APS. Tell them you are not allowed to see Mom. Maybe they will investigate the situation. If they don't help, then you all need to get together and hire a lawyer. We as a forum can point you in the right direction but cannot solve a dysfunctional family problem.
Again, you are trying to build a case against your sibling for "elder abuse" you'll need to speak to an elder care attorney for guidance. Or call APS to investigate the situation at your sisters home, which will further alienate her from you.
Putting a question entirely into a header w/o details makes it pretty tough for us to give you decent comments.
Each post gives us a tiny piece of the puzzle.
For those with difficulty putting puzzles together it is difficult to advise you.
You are clearly at war with the sibling and Niece who your MOTHER CHOSE as her POA.
They will not currently let you even visit nor give you any medical information, and unless they are the epitome of EVIL (I doubt that) there is a reason for that.
I can only guess that you are causing disruption in this rather than trying to help in their care of your Mom.
I honestly think that no Forum can properly guess at what is actually happening here, but the manner of your postings to us has caused me to attempt to do so.
I would suggest that you see an elder law attorney to help you with options moving forward.
You may also, if you suspect abuse as you indicated in other postings, give said proof to APS and ask them to investigate for you.
When families divide over the care of an incompetent senior it is a cruel thing. This senior, while at her most vulnerable and helpless has a family at war, rather than joined in her care. I hope all will now make an attempt to act in an adult manner, at least for the duration that the senior must endure.
"I am concerned about my Mother. She is living with my younger sibling, and she has made it very difficult for us, the other siblings, to see our Mom. We are trying to figure out a way to see her."
This is the poster whose niece has POA and cannot speak to mom's doctor.
I am sure the trauma of being present during such a severe injury has scrambled some memories for both of them. Not to mention that we all experience and perceive situations entirely personally, meaning varying stories from all present.
Unless you have reason to believe that she is being harmed intentionally, give them the benefit of understanding how awful this was for them and that you aren't looking to place responsibility on them. Because the truth is, old people fall and break bones but, bones will spontaneously break and cause a fall, nobody is to blame, it's life.
Is your sister POA?
If you do not think she is doing a proper job, if you do not think she is properly caring for mom you could petition to become your mom's Guardian. this would mean going to court. It would mean having to prove that your sister is not doing what she should be doing. And you may need to prove your mom is not safe.
This will RUIN any relationship you have with your sister and your niece and any other family members that align with her in this matter.
Where is your Mother now?