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Yes absolutely..they will take shirt off her back too . See Elder Atty ...but she can & will get on Medicaid faster if she don’t have a lot of $$$ ...hugs 🤗
If Mom is on Medicaid for her care in LTC, and this is for the rest ofvher life, then yes any income she receives is used to offset her care. She will receive a PNA (personal needs account) with a small amt monthly that can be used to have her hair done. new clothes, lotion she likes etc.
If she has any bills, they will just go unpaid. Family is not responsible for paying them. If a house is involved, if family wants to keep it up, thats up to them but don't look for reimbursement if its sold while Mom is living. Proceeds will need to go for her care. I am just giving an overview. Medicaid depends on the individual situation. And their is criteria that has to be met when selling a house or car.
Some people are not aware how Medicaid works. They see debts and wonder why LOs money can't be used on the house that LO is allowed to keep. This is what this forum is for, information. I had no idea till I was on this forum.
please please realize that if your mom has debts - like a mortgage, credit cards, life insurance premiums due, property costs as she still owns her home - she will not realistically ever have $ to pay on any debts. So family will need to pay her debts to keep whatever in force. Whether doing this makes sense or is at all feasible is on DPOA & family to determine.
Family is often gobsmacked by the copay requirement of LTC Medicaid.
Igloo, i'm not sure I agree with your statement about "family will need to pay her debts:. I think it depends on which ones are essential to continue payment? My inlaws had tens of thousands of cc debt (and nothing to show for it!) Their sons (PoAs) ignored those when both inlaws went into NH (at the same time). That debt went away as no one had the money to cover it and family shouldn't be responsible for it. Mortgage may be different, but I would say it depends on what is still owed on the home. My inlaws were upside-down on theirs and we all walked away from the house and let it go into foreclosure. The OP may benefit from a consult with an elder law attorney to sort things out if the mom isn't on Medicaid.
Is your mom on Medicaid? Then, yes, the county takes it to cover the cost of her care. Is she in LTC? When you say pension, do you mean her social security? What expenses, other than the cost of the NH, does she have to worry about? My MIL is on Medicaid in LTC. The state of MN takes all but $90 every month of her SS check. She doesn't even spend that, as all her needs are covered. How else will the NH get paid to care for your mom? If your mom isn't on Medicaid, then I think that's a different question and answer.
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I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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If she has any bills, they will just go unpaid. Family is not responsible for paying them.
If a house is involved, if family wants to keep it up, thats up to them but don't look for reimbursement if its sold while Mom is living. Proceeds will need to go for her care.
I am just giving an overview. Medicaid depends on the individual situation. And their is criteria that has to be met when selling a house or car.
please please realize that if your mom has debts - like a mortgage, credit cards, life insurance premiums due, property costs as she still owns her home - she will not realistically ever have $ to pay on any debts. So family will need to pay her debts to keep whatever in force.
Whether doing this makes sense or is at all feasible is on DPOA & family to determine.
Family is often gobsmacked by the copay requirement of LTC Medicaid.
I'm assuming that you are saying that Medicaid is paying the bulk of the cost of care?