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Well look, guys seem to have an image problem or something with sitting on the toilet to pee. That would solve most of these issues with aim. When we get older our urine stream is weak and that contributes to the problem. Especially at night, when he does not have to struggle with dropping his pants and putting everything back together again, and in the dark, he should be sitting to urinate.
Thank you, Johnny13. You just confirmed what I'm dealing with. Wish I could convince him to sit, but like you say, it's an image problem. I just direct guests to my bathroom and clean his daily. A struggle, but what else are you going to do??!!
My husband's problems are a bit different because he has to self-cath to pee and can't manage it by himself anymore. For my own sanity, what I came up with is for him to sit in his walker and pee in a bucket, while I am there to assist. Then I empty the bucket - otherwise it would end up everywhere. Gross, but it seems to be working........for now.
Wish I had some answers! My husband has the same problem. His worst time is in the middle of the night. I get up with him and remind him to have his legs touch the toilet. If he doesn't get stubborn this works. We have a nightlight in the bathroom that helps. He tried urinal but he would dump on floor or in wastebasket! He was successful at first but didn't last long. I had old towels around toilet I got tired of that routine. I tried the motion light for the toilet it worked for a while. It quit working and the concept was no longer working. I had him clean up pee that didn't work. I gave him a bucket of water and rag to mop the bathroom floor which didn't work either! Good luck! DL
You just described my husband to a tee! He is only incontinent at night, wears a diaper, which lately I have been making him put on by himself with supervision. Voila! no more wet sheets in the morning! However, the problem with aiming is still there. He complains that the toilet is leaking 'cause his socks are wet after he goes. Duh! After reading some of the posts, might try a hand held urinal. He might balk, but worth a try. He has Parkinson's but I don't know if that makes any difference. Let us know if you find a good solution. Hugs and good luck!
My dad had a problem with aim and solved it himself by using a plastic bottle to pee into and then emptying into toilet. Any ole milk bottle will work, he preferred the gallen size.
I've known of people finding the trick of painting a "target" in the bowl (above the water line) works or using the aiming trainers for little boys. Or getting a dark toilet seat for the while toilet, as sometimes white toilet seats just kind of blend in and they might forget to even raise the seat. I've also known of people painting or using colored electrician's tape along the rim of the bowl (it's hidden by the toilet seat when down, but when they raise the seat to pee, then they can see the "ring" of the rim a lot better and may be able to aim).
You don't state what his issues are, but, if he is not able to handle this alone, then, I'd see to it that he had direct supervision or someone actually handling it for him. It's likely that if he could do it better, he would. Whatever the cause, vision impairment, lack of mobility, cognition decline, etc., I'd take it that he needs more assistance.
my 80 year old father in law had the same problem. He would stand and use a hand held Male Urinal. Just a simple one that every hospital and nursing home has. Male Portable Urinal with Cover. Pick up on line or at hospital.
is he overweight perhaps? and cant very well see what he is doing down there? if he is sitting on the toilet, he may very well be pointing straight out instead of down, unless he is managing it so to speak.
Do you have "standard" toilets or tall ones. round or oblong? I think the taller "ADA height" and the oblong one might be easier. The taller toilet makes the distance a bit less and the oblong opening also makes it easier to aim for.
There are "targets" that they have for kids so the kids have a place to "aim" would something like that work? You could try that and if it works instead of buying them all the time you could "paint" a target on the toilet bowl that would not come off. Or use a flower decal that you see in the packs of "non slip decals" that you put on the bathtub.
Oh, does this happen all the time or just when he gets up at night? If it is just at night he might be unsteady or can not see that well. If it is that there are also lights you can put inside the toilet (I know who'da thunk!)
And if all else fails.. Make sure the gap between the toilet and floor are sealed well so you get no urine between the flooring and the sub-floor. Clorox makes a great Urine Remover and Odor-Ban works great. And remember if he has dementia (there is no info on your profile) this phase will pass and you will sooner rather than later be buying Pull Up type briefs later wondering if a Condom Catheter will work or will he try pulling it off.
Urinary problems usually increase with age in both male and female! Males peeing on the floor around the toilet is an age old problem! Male bedside urinals are inexpensive @ $5 to $6, and are widely available at retail pharmacies or on Amazon, etc. Keeping one on a bedside stool, and covered with a face towel to hide it from open view, can cut down on trips to the bathroom toilet. An 8 oz Styrofoam cup can be used as a lid, and it is much easier than the attached lid which seems to always pop open during the night. One can also be kept on the toilet tank lid or in a cabinet nearby! Urinary incontinence is another matter, and many elderly will eventually experience it! They usually end up wearing disposable underwear and using moisture barrier creme on their skin to prevent rash! If you have heard that saying "Everything gets better with age" --it doesn't!
He has Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s and mild dementia. he is going to be 79 in July. He has a lot of trouble walking due to freezing. He thinks the toilet leaks! I think I’ve tried almost everything mentioned. He doesn’t really care!
I can imagine this would be sensitive, but have you been able to observe what is happening when he uses the bathroom? I mean, one's first guess would be that it's about the angle of the dangle, so to speak; but could it be more that he thinks he's finished when he ain't done?
And, is this a recent development? Any prostate problems you're aware of, is he good about getting that checked out regularly?
A urinal might be a PITA but it seems to me it is preferable to pee on the floor. The Urifunnel is a product available on Amazon, I think it's pricey for what it is but perhaps worth every penny if it works for you:
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APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
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Male Portable Urinal with Cover. Pick up on line or at hospital.
if he is sitting on the toilet, he may very well be pointing straight out instead of down, unless he is managing it so to speak.
There are "targets" that they have for kids so the kids have a place to "aim" would something like that work? You could try that and if it works instead of buying them all the time you could "paint" a target on the toilet bowl that would not come off. Or use a flower decal that you see in the packs of "non slip decals" that you put on the bathtub.
Oh, does this happen all the time or just when he gets up at night? If it is just at night he might be unsteady or can not see that well. If it is that there are also lights you can put inside the toilet (I know who'da thunk!)
And if all else fails..
Make sure the gap between the toilet and floor are sealed well so you get no urine between the flooring and the sub-floor. Clorox makes a great Urine Remover and Odor-Ban works great.
And remember if he has dementia (there is no info on your profile) this phase will pass and you will sooner rather than later be buying Pull Up type briefs later wondering if a Condom Catheter will work or will he try pulling it off.
he is going to be 79 in July. He has a lot of trouble walking due to freezing. He thinks the toilet leaks! I think I’ve tried almost everything mentioned. He doesn’t really care!
And, is this a recent development? Any prostate problems you're aware of, is he good about getting that checked out regularly?
https://www.amazon.com/Urifunnel-Portable-Urinal-Funnel-Converts/dp/B017N6NUKA