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So, you wera homeschooling mom with a corporate job husband only since your mom moved in and you had no time to feed your family then?

Of course not.

Mom's a renter, not a servant. She told you she doesn't want to cook, and that's that. She said she'd clean up, so let her. She's not one of your children, so stop treating her like one.

And no, that's not narcissistic behavior by any stretch of the imagination. Jeez, that word gets tossed around here a lot.
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lealonnie1 Apr 2022
The 'only good advice' OP says she's gotten so far is that which advised "I would separate out your lives in the home, have your own meals and privacy, and that's it."
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Sounds like mom isn’t totally welcome in your home, no judgment, it’s a hard shift for most, and often turns into a bad plan. Definitely keep her on the list for whatever housing she can afford. Where we live there are nice low income apartments for seniors. In the meantime provide dinner for your family and leave mom to figuring out her own meals. Discuss it as little as possible and just let her know it’s best for all
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Peace2019 Apr 2022
Yes, I think you’re right. There is resentment there for sure. I’m trying to sort through it all, it’s very difficult.
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I wrote a lot in my original post but cut most of it out because it was purely speculation and based on how I would feel if I were in a similar situation. You haven't given us much to go on besides the clash over cooking, if she is sitting on her backside all day, refuses to pitch in on any household tasks and is expecting to be waited on hand and foot she may not be a narcissist but she is toxic. If it's just that the two of you are constantly clashing over what are basically personality and lifestyle choices then you may be able to come to some kind of rapprochement.
Have you tried teamwork rather than assigning tasks or expecting her to take charge? - mom, would you help with peeling the potatoes so they are ready for later - mom, I've got something marinating in the fridge would you mind putting it in the oven at 4:00 - I've already sorted the laundry, it would be a big help if you could run a couple of loads for me this afternoon... that kind of thing.
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Your mom clearly stated before moving in that she would not be cooking. Isn't there something else she can do to help out around the house for you?

Maybe the issue isnt mom not cooking but having mom live with you?
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At 80 I don't like to cook either. I will make a massive amount of something, eat off of it daily until its gone if I like. As I eat at a different hour (earlier) from Partner and different FOOD (he has gerd and tolerates little; I love hot stuff) my partner and I don't eat together or the same food. Today I made a massive lasagna; now I needn't cook for a good long time.
Why do you eat together? Why a fight over who cooks? Mom cooks for MOM and you cook for your family, would be my advice.
Mom should get her own meals and pay for her own shopping. She gets a shelf in fridge and one if freezer too if that exists.
I would not have taken Mom back into my home. A burden for my family. Things won't get better. But I sure wouldn't pick this battle to be the mountaintop we choose to die upon. There is so little in life we can control, but we CAN control our own dietary thing at a certain point. I cook now only when I choose to cook. You have a young family. So not that easy. But you can bring home a bucket from the Colonel or order in a pizza once a week.
You have home, family, job and now Mom. I would separate out your lives in the home, have your own meals and privacy, and that's it. There's too much on your plate for time to even ARGUE this one I am thinking.
Best to you.
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Peace2019 Apr 2022
Thank you! This so far is the only good advice I have seen, and is exactly what I have been thinking. So far, those who have commented seem to have zero idea what a challenging situation this has been to me, faced with this situation, in which I have struggled to maintain a good relationship with my mom to begin with. There are more tendencies of superiority that I have seen by her throughout our relationship, lack of boundaries, etc. I am an extremely kind person, who have allowed her to trample on me previously as well. This is one of those circumstances, and yes, maybe I should not have allowed her to live with us but she had nowhere else to live. Thank you for your kind and thoughtful response!
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Do you really think that this is a battle worth fighting, or are you just looking for an excuse to be upset with your mom as she's turned your life upside down again by moving back in with you?
If this was not something that was agreed upon BEFORE she moved back in with you and your family, well then shame on you. Ground rules should have been set in place prior to her moving in, and if she didn't agree with any of the rules she would have had the option to find other housing and living elsewhere.
You say in your own words that she pays a "good amount" for rent, so you and your family are benefiting at least financially by her being there right? And even though you have allowed her to move in, that doesn't mean that she is responsible for cooking for your family. She's your mom, not your personal chef.
Would it be nice if she offered once in a while to cook supper? I'm sure it would be, but like she's told you, she doesn't like to cook anymore, so I think you need to adjust your expectations and just accept that she's not going to change.
I'm almost retirement age and also a widow. I never did enjoy cooking much put did it when I had to. I can tell you that now that I've gotten out of the habit of having to cook, that I probably wouldn't want to have to do it again either, as I feel like I've earned the right not to. Not because I am selfish or narcissistic, but as a mom and grandmother I have paid my dues.
Now I certainly understand that there are many moms and grandmothers out there that still enjoy cooking for their family, your mom and I just happen not be one of them.
And if you and your husband are too busy to cook for your family, you can always order out and have your meals delivered with the money your mom is paying you for rent. Just a thought.
I guess I will just ask you this......is this really the hill that you are willing to die on? And if it is, there is way more going on here than a mom who won't cook for you. Something to ponder for sure.
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Without knowing more about your mom, I can't be sure if it's narcissism or something else. Financial issues, an inability to live alone and a resistance to cooking could all be signs of senile dementia/Alzheimers.

I suppose you could try the no more family dinners as a brief test -- just to see if she snaps out of it or goes without food. If she goes without, definitely, take her to a doctor for an evaluation. If she needs someone to prepare food for her, it's either severe mental illness or SD/A.

Best of luck to you!
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Maybe be very grateful there is only one woman in your kitchen, because things could be worse for you. If there is any narcissism, that could be a disaster.

Saying to your Mom "No more meals with us" is not the peaceful solution.

Take advantage of meals delivered, or picked up to go by you or your husband.

Take advantage of easy to prepare meals-don't have to be perfect. A potato salad, sandwich fixings, cottage cheese and hot dogs, or Tuna Sandwiches may suffice once a week or more. A buffet layout, or PIZZA could work.

Everyone, even the best and interested cooks do not want to cook at times.
When was the last time y'all stopped by McDonald's (omg), or Chick-Fil-A?

More than an issue with your Mom, it sounds like you need a break. I could be wrong.

BTW, your whole family does not have to eat the same thing together, every day of the week. Can you get creative?

Are the children able to learn preparing meals yet?

Try having some fun with being creative, and get yourself a break.
Hire a sitter to cook dinner, while you and your husband go out. Or take advantage of the one night Mom does cook, and you go out.

What a r e you waiting for?
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It sounds to me as though you want it your house your rules - I get that she has no desire to take over family meals and I don't blame her AT ALL, she's clearly stated she hates cooking. Frankly the idea of banning her from your table sounds much more like a toddler tantrum than anything she has done. I think everyone would be much happier if you explored different living arrangements for her.
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Hate to be a buzz kill here but...
She did tell you that she would not cook. You knew that back before she moved in.
SO...
my advice is
On weekends make several meals and portion them and freeze the meals for later. Pull out a meal or several meals and let them thaw so all you or mom has to do is heat them up.
This might take a bit of planning but keeping a weeks worth of meals in the freezer is not a bad idea. Casseroles, lasagna, soups, chili, stew can all be made and frozen. A "fresh" meal can provide leftovers for another 1 or 2 meals later that week.


If you really have had it you can give her a "move out date" and she can begin looking for Independent Living facilities, Senior housing (remind her she will have to cook for herself....and you will lose income)

By the way...how old are your boys? Old enough to cook dinner? (I was cooking dinners for my family when I was 11 years old)
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True narcissism involves a whole lot more very ugly behaviors than a person who's paying a 'goodly amount of rent' refusing to cook family dinners. Your mother is simply refusing to compromise and wanting to do things her way, which would be selfish, not narcissistic.

You can choose to be equally uncompromising and tell her to find her own meals if she's unwilling to cook your family dinners. That would likely start up a whole feud and another batch of problems to sort out, though. So pick your battles, that's my suggestion.
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BTW, she is 100 capable of cooking.
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Myownlife Apr 2022
SO WHAT !!! She is NOT a cook; she is YOUR MOTHER!
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