Follow
Share
If to "argue" or try to convince a person with dementia is going to cause undue stress, agitation, anxiety why would you want to try to convince them that what they are saying is not "real"
If telling someone that what they believe is not true is going to cause them pain then trying to get them to believe otherwise would be cruel.
For example...
Your mom wants to talk to dad, or her mom and both are dead. If you tell mom that her husband is dead, her mom is dead she is going to relive that death as if it just happened.
Mom is convinced that she already took a shower and had breakfast. Rather than argue that she has not had breakfast or taken a shower convince her to clean up for a "snack". Take her into the bathroom, wash face, hands and make sure that she is clean and dry. Worry about a shower another day. You can do a "Spa Day" tomorrow.

Now when it might be dangerous..then you can argue about her "reality" VS true reality.
The smoke alarm going off and she thinks it is the phone.
She thinks it is winter and wants to wear a heavy coat and hat and it is really 98 degrees outside.

In general if is is not dangerous, not causing harm or anxiety I see no problem with going with the flow. Treat it as any "normal" conversation.
Helpful Answer (1)
Reply to Grandma1954
Report

My Mom Liked to tell stories of seeing Elvis in concert and the Beatles at the Melody tent . She sang a Lot and watched a lot of disco on PBS and Loved Anthony Bourdain . My Dad would sing songs from Old times 1930's and Knew all the words to songs - Just start singing songs and he was Happy . He Picked weeds and sat Outside waiting for the Mail . I would take him for walks and Lunch or a ice cream . When he would Obsess about his Mothers diamond ring from over 40 years ago I would say " Dad Thats a Long time ago . " And Not Indulge into the story .
Helpful Answer (0)
Reply to KNance72
Report

My Moms reality included dreams and TV. They were part of her reality. Her mind could not separate them. I came into her room one day and she told me the doctor wanted to talk to me. The doctor was Dick VanDyke on Diagnosis Murder.
Helpful Answer (2)
Reply to JoAnn29
Report

It depends .
Is it a reality that gives them comfort WITHOUT them asking or expecting you to fulfill an impossible , or onerous request ?

Different situations dictate whether you should enter or indulge them in their reality .
Helpful Answer (1)
Reply to waytomisery
Report

When You Should – and Should NOT – Use Reality Orientation in Dementia Care

Did you ever wake up in the middle of a dream and wonder, for just an instant, if what you were dreaming about was real? It can feel very disorienting until you open your eyes and take in your familiar surroundings. An experience like this can give you just a brief peek into the ongoing disorientation for someone with dementia. When confusion about place, time, and even identity settle in for someone you love, you’re faced with two options for responding: either stepping into their reality with them, or orienting them to yours. Knowing when to use reality orientation in dementia care (and when to avoid it) is crucial to the person’s emotional wellness.

Which Reality Is Best?

In short, each approach has its place. Nonetheless, there are specific cautions to be familiar with when using reality orientation in dementia care. It’s important to first understand what is involved in both options and when they might be most appropriate.

Accepting Their Reality

Living in an alternate reality is quite common for someone in the mid to later stages of dementia. The person may believe they are a young adult engaged in their previous career (or a different one altogether), with a spouse and young kids to look after. Going along with their perception of reality helps them maintain a sense of self-worth and purpose. It instills peace and comfort, and is oftentimes the recommended approach.

Reality Orientation

Reality orientation, on the other hand, involves providing cues and prompts about the current date, time, and location. Studies have shown that it can improve cognitive functioning, especially when paired with donepezil, and help with a number of the more challenging aspects of dementia.

However, reality orientation should be handled gently along with compassion, skill, and awareness of the person’s emotional state. For example, if the individual asks where their mother is, it could be extremely harmful to respond, “Why, she died 30 years ago! You are 95 years of age, so there’s no way your mother could still be alive.” In contrast, it may be effective in ordinary conversations. For instance, if the individual wakes up and asks what day it is, you may respond, “Today is Tuesday, the day you have your exercise class and then dinner with Janice.”
If the individual appears to become agitated or anxious with reality, it is always best to join them in the perceived reality that feels comfortable to them.
Helpful Answer (0)
Reply to lealonnie1
Report

There is a saying in the world of dementia that states that we need to meet people where they are in their dementia and in their world not ours, so I would say yes, unless of course their reality is scaring them.
Helpful Answer (0)
Reply to funkygrandma59
Report

I’d join her in her reality if it is a reality that makes her happy.

I did that with my mother the last few weeks of her life when she was talking about a handsome German man with good posture and telling me the nurses at the NH sang to her in German.

I said it was all lovely. It was a much better place to be than her grim reality.
Helpful Answer (1)
Reply to Hothouseflower
Report

My DH tried desperately to 'fix' his mother. He'd come home after a day of CG and just be so angry & depressed b/c he COULDN'T fix her and he also couldn't join her in her 'delusions'.

His mindset was one of 'you can change, no matter how old you are".

Well, that's a hopeful thought and completely useless, really. His mom was so far gone in her mind, she was just living in a world of her own.

The last couple of years she couldn't make a decision, hold a conversation or have a talk about anything that didn't escalate into her 'reality'. She was the chronic 'poor me' and complained every single day about how her ex-DH had taken her life and ruined it, then how her 2 boys just added to that 'ruination'.

I never saw her, so everything I knew came 2nd hand and I just let DH rant about it. My getting upset and trying to help him see the light was as pointless as him trying to get Her to listen to HIM.

She died without DH's having any kind of closure whatsoever. It has been a rough 7 months and will continue to be so as long as DH has to think about her and handle her affairs.

Instead of arguing with her about the reality of her thinking, he should have let it all go. That's more of what OB and YS did and they're handling things a lot better.
Helpful Answer (1)
Reply to Midkid58
Report
sp196902 Aug 13, 2024
"His mindset was one of 'you can change, no matter how old you are"."

That's ironic coming from your DH who has proven that NO you can't change, especially the older you get, since he is not willing to change or make changes in the slightest way possible. Why is it that introspection is often so lacking in people? That the things they demand of others they refuse to implement in their own lives to make themselves happier but also those they love happier too?
(2)
Report
I just let them talk and just nod and smile.
Occasionally, I may ask a question regarding the storyline. Other than that, I just listen or go um hum to go along with the story being told.

I talked to my sister the other day and she told me that she was going to continue her college education. She was also getting married and moving in a house. I just listened offering no feedback. She currently resides in a rehab/nursing home setup.

Back in April, she told me she was pregnant and needed prenatal care at eighty-three. I was like okay, take care of your health.
Helpful Answer (2)
Reply to Scampie1
Report

You don't join.
You simply don't argue, because that's a waste of time.
Helpful Answer (2)
Reply to AlvaDeer
Report

Ask a Question
Subscribe to
Our Newsletter