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If he is like my brother he won't - and asking doesn't help at all - none - all I get is "No, I have a life..." Tally up how much it would cost to hire someone to do what you are doing and send him a bill for his share. I am sorry if I sound like I am resentful. I am. But I'm trying to let it go... Just know that you aren't alone - and you are doing the right thing.
Perhaps he feels he doesn't have to. The only thing you can do is appeal to his sense of morality and ask him to help YOU instead of your father, but do it nicely. Nagging him won't get you anywhere, and will definitely widen the rift to the point he won't even bother to call. Even on Christmas.
Well, it's time to go to work. ... Hasta luego querida familia.
Tropical Breeze...gee all that help you had. Three sisters, two living nearby, go for 6 months without visiting nor calling. OH they help out a lot...NOT. nadda The other is a thief who ran back to Oregon and pretends she's perfect with her son's perfect family. SHOW ME THE MONEY you stole and forged...So of all relatives one niece is kind and helpful from a distance and another niece is extremely loving. You say you have a husband to help...and he still gets to go to work? Where you getting this lavish amount of help? Try no husband, no siblings at all to help...for 8.5 years and you don't get paid.
The county finally allowed a total of 24 hours respite care or day care program for mom...me time off to do errands and occasional shower and movie..But this has been sporadically in last year.
There are three of us and my brothers seem concerned but say they can't help. One brother is in and out of the county doing the bidding of the corporate world and seems to forget his father help bring him into this world and would appreciate a little caring while the other brother just doesn't seem to see things need to be done. I'm told by other people that this happens in every family. One steps up and the others step back two steps. God forbid they lend a hand and have a little responsibility. How christian of them. Too busy with their lives but figure I can devote mine. Nothing like being left at the corner waiting for family who never comes by.
llaurssa17, Forget the rest of them and be thankful that you were with your father in the end. You will never have to regret NOT being there, sorry about your dad.
I am sorry your dad has passed away! He is your father and such an important part of you. But, perhaps it is also a blessing. And you can know that you did the right thing. Good for you! I hope you can have a rest now.
It's always one child that steps up to the plate to take care of the parent. I too make comments to my sister who says I live closer, and its easier etc.. she also says it makes her ill to see my mother or go to her apartment...caring for a parent, regardless of them being in a nursing home or having in home care just sucks the life out of you ...Take each day as it comes, cry a little if it makes you feel better and then pick yourself back up and keep doing what your doing...
well an update on my brother who couldn't help with dad or come to any dr appointments for my mom - on Tues July 27th my dad passed away at home we had hospice in helping to take care of him After telling my brother on Monday - who was away for the weekend at his Lake house that dad was really bad and that it probably was only a matter of time - he finally left his lake house late Tuesday afternoon because he had to spend that day with his friend who had been there all weekend it is about a 5 hr drive he arrived at my house just as my dad died. I guess no one has a conscience anymore. And my sister didn't come down until Wednesday afternoon even though I told her on Monday how bad he was
You probably won't get your sibling to help out. You can ask and see if you get any response at all.
When my husband & I had my MIL living here with us, we used every available resource we had. My MIL has 5 kids, all grown and with grown children. My husband is child #4. Child #1 helped out on weekends (short period of time)--but she had grandkids to take care of as well. Child #2 helped out the most. Child #3 is the one who, when I asked, she always had an excuse for why she couldn't come over and help. When she did come over, it wasn't for long. I can count on one hand when my husband & I would be able to get out with her spending time with her mom. My husband would come home from work and help out or sometimes even before he went to work. So, sometimes his schedule was 1) help mom out before work, 2) go to work, and 3) help mom out after work. Child #5 came over and gave her weekly showers. Now that MIL is in NH, Child #3 is throwing it in my husband's face that she's coming and he's not. I don't want to go up there when we're told we have to. I don't have anymore contact with her, since she did that. My oldest sister would probably say, "You're cutting your nose off to spite your face." ...but at this point I really don't care.
I hope you have better luck in getting thru to your sibling than I did.
Your situation is a lot like mine except my older brother has turned his back on our 85 year old mother. I am the middle child and neither he nor my younger sister think it is important to be there for our mom. Sis lives the closest to mom, but she just goes over to mom's to get money and food from her. My brother has completely shut down all communication with any of us since it is just easier for him not to be involved. Unfortunately you and I are left careing for our aging parents. It sucks, and it is not fair, but there seems to be nothing we can do but try to make them comfortable and happy during their remaining time on this earth. At least it sounds like your brother will step up when asked. Mine won't and only criticizes what I try to do for mom. Suzie in Seattle
Tropicalbreeze, If your brother doesn't want to get involved it may be a blessing. My brother recently called and told me he and new love may be here next month for a visit after a 10 year absence. Although negligent, he is the goldenchild to mom. I have mixed emotions about this visit. Hope it's just to introduce us to his new love and not to get his inheritance early. If mom has to go on medicaid they look back 5 yrs on gifts and penalize the patient (mom) that amount in care costs. My brother has never been greedy but I don't know this new woman and loneliness can make a man do strange things. Mom would be more than happy to throw money at him in hopes of his return to visit more often, but would jeopardize her own wellbeing and my ability to help her in the process. I'm hoping for the best and not sure how or if I will breach the subject yet. Going to have to pray hard about this one. I am in any case aprehensive; hopefully unvallidated. So you see having brother step in may not always be a good thing.
I found a good product reasonably priced at Costco in the Pet section. "absorbz" TM. The pads ar thin, 22" x 22" & claim to absorb 4 cups of liquid & containodor neutralizers, blah, blah, blah.
100 for anout $15 seems reasonable! Cheaper than a medical supply place.
I wish I'd had them for my car seat & fabric chairs! Now Dad has a catheter now. Another intriguing scenario.
tropical, you're not at selfish for wanting to enjoy quality time with your friends. In fact, you're being very ethical and responsible in trying to make it overlap with a time where your parents are stable enough to be left alone. It is a great feeling to be able to balance one's life in that way. I do. We would not be here to care for our parents if we didn't find ways to balance our lives with little things we enjoy, including time away from caregiving, however brief. Enjoy your friends and your life. Sounds liek you are doing an awesome job of keeping your parents' well-being visible. Best to you always, tropical.
The caregiving community is the most supportive I have seen anywhere. Some in our society could learn to live and let live as so many caregivers seem to do. It is refreshing to be a part of such an enlightened community of people who strive each day to do the right thing by others in our lives. In so doing, we ultimately discover ourselves, including through each other. Thank you all for being such inspirations.
thanks for the support it means a lot I am glad I found this site funny how you get more support from people that don't even know you than you do from your own family
NOPE DONT DO IT...LET THE GUILT GO...IVE HAD GUILT EVERY DAY...FOR NOT DOING ENOUGH OR IF MY MOM DOESNT TAKE HER MEDICINE RIGHT OR IF I DONT SPEND TIME TALKING TO HER ON DAYS WHEN IM POOPED...GUESS WHAT MY MOM LOVES ME AND SHE DOESNT REMEMBER TO MUCH ANYWAY...SO LET GO OF THE GUILT...WE ALL DESERVE TO BE HAPPY..JUST DO YOUR BEST AND FROM THIS POINT ON WHEN MY FAMILY HAS SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT WHAT IM NOT DOING RIGHT GUESS WHAT IM GONNA TELL THEM? IF YOU DONT LIKE THE WAY I DO THINGS THEN COME AND FIX IT YOURSELF! HA THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN BUT IM REFUSING FROM THIS POINT TO LISTEN TO THEM TRY AND MAKE ME FEEL BAD AND NOT ONCE NOT ONCE HAS ANYONE SAID TO ME - THANKS CAROL FOR TAKING CARE OF "OUR MOM"
GUILTY SHMILTY...LET IT GO....WHEN YOU NEED TO GET OUT YOU BETTER DO WHAT YOU GOTTA DO...ITS FOR YOUR OWN MENTAL HEALTH...- I KNOW I STILL FEEL GUILTY...IM WORKING ON IT! :)
If he has to be told, he never will. My brother-n-law will not do anything for his father. But is the first to start running his mouth about what we should be doing. My father-n-law recently gave him 15,000.00 dollars. He said he felt like since he built a room on our house to live in( so we can wait on him hand and foot) he owed him that money. We ask him to take him tp a dentist appointment thw other day, not only did he not show up, he didnt even call.
NO tropical breeze. It is important for your to have your own life and visit your friends. You need to take care of yourself in order to be able to take care of someone else. It is in fact true that you cannot take care of someone else if you arent taking care of yourself.
It is very important to be o and patient with yourself.
Your parents WANT you to enjoy life. Guilt is a normal feeling. I suggest you forgive yourself and give yourself permission to have fun with friends (or as much as fun as you can have with your life obligatiions!) and know that you will be a better caregiver after some respite time.
I dont have friends around here. I miss that. I think respite time is healthy.
We ALL need thanks and applauds for the loving care that we give our loved ones...We have the best support right here...My friends are very supportive but none of them are going through what we are...It's wonderful to know that I can come here and talk to anyone about my feelings and concerns and I will get a response... Am I being selfish if I want to go and visit friends and leave my folks alone knowing they will be alright for a couple of hours? I feel sooo guilty!!!
yes if they continue to let you down you will feel bad. when you stop asking as hard as that may be and find other support - like this site- adult day care or home health assistant- you wont continue to be let down and you can go on with life. im living it...stopped asking for help cause i was constantly ignored and became madder as time went..ive let all that go. they will have to deal with their concience not me..good luck and hang in there
my brother thinks he is doing as much as he can but does nothing I am caring for both my parents and he lives 1 1/2 miles away but always he has a busy important life. Instead of helping me take mom to the Dr. he had to spend 4 days at his Lakehouse, someday I will learn and stop asking for his help
Hi, tropicalbreeze. Though it might be frustrating to come to terms with it, your brother may never step up to the plate to help in caregiving. If you feel strongly that he should, hopefully you have already asked him for help and told him ways he might better support you. This is a category of expectations whether some of us caregivers realize it, or not. What I expect from someone else may never come to pass.
Once one is a full time caregiver, the only one usually, it is amazing how LITTLE the deadbeat siblings can do to get themselves out of the karmic hole they are digging for themselves. A genuine phone call, regular emails of genuine concern, surprise greeting cards or little presents. Those sorts of little contributions relieve the pressure of being the ONLY one. There comes a time when no sibling can match hour for hour what we have done.
They could come in all alone and take over the rest of the caregiving, and they'd still be way behind. There is one sister who just cannot make it, has health and money problems, but her occasional concerned emails keeps her off my shit list.
thank you...i know i just took my mom to reno and was on vacation for a week spent alot of time with my mom even though that wasnt the plan i asked for sibling help so i could have a vacation at home alone..anyways...what i noticed is that spending non working days with my mom and having my friends over and including her in my activities in a more peaceful rested state of mind (me) -and not having to work and rush around etc- i notice a huge difference in my mom..she communicated clearer..seemed happier, fixed her hair more etc...i just saw her looking happier...so i know that regular patient interaction is key for her well being...she cant be alone for to long thats why the senior center isnt the best cause theres no one there to assist her if she gets confused or lost. i need an assistant and got darn it im gonna get me one! ya hoo...
Check out your local churches for Senior Centers. When my Mom first moved in with me she din't want to do anything, but stick to my side. Had to convince her to try it because I work all day also and she didn't want to be alone. Well needless to say it worked out great, I have to remind her everyday where she is going and for how long etc., but I truely believe it has help slow down the progression of her dementia and its free. There are a lot of things out there fot the elderly so take advantage. Its not only good for her but you as well. Good luck
thank you...i try...and i try not to carry around a grudge either lifes to short and it affects my life to be so angry or disappointed with others- i do love my siblings..they will have to face their own guilt or negligience of my mom at some point...im not here on this earth to teach them that lesson...all i can do is find peace in myself and care for my mom to the best of my ability. ive stopped asking for regular assistance cause im always let down. im avoiding that by not asking..thus the reason for seeking in home or adult day care..we're on our own bubs! :)
im super glad i found this site...i have a place to correspond and/or vent! amen to that..
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Perhaps he feels he doesn't have to. The only thing you can do is appeal to his sense of morality and ask him to help YOU instead of your father, but do it nicely. Nagging him won't get you anywhere, and will definitely widen the rift to the point he won't even bother to call. Even on Christmas.
Well, it's time to go to work. ... Hasta luego querida familia.
-- ED
The county finally allowed a total of 24 hours respite care or day care program for mom...me time off to do errands and occasional shower and movie..But this has been sporadically in last year.
You probably won't get your sibling to help out. You can ask and see if you get any response at all.
When my husband & I had my MIL living here with us, we used every available resource we had. My MIL has 5 kids, all grown and with grown children. My husband is child #4. Child #1 helped out on weekends (short period of time)--but she had grandkids to take care of as well. Child #2 helped out the most. Child #3 is the one who, when I asked, she always had an excuse for why she couldn't come over and help. When she did come over, it wasn't for long. I can count on one hand when my husband & I would be able to get out with her spending time with her mom. My husband would come home from work and help out or sometimes even before he went to work. So, sometimes his schedule was 1) help mom out before work, 2) go to work, and 3) help mom out after work. Child #5 came over and gave her weekly showers. Now that MIL is in NH, Child #3 is throwing it in my husband's face that she's coming and he's not. I don't want to go up there when we're told we have to. I don't have anymore contact with her, since she did that. My oldest sister would probably say, "You're cutting your nose off to spite your face."
...but at this point I really don't care.
I hope you have better luck in getting thru to your sibling than I did.
Suzie in Seattle
If your brother doesn't want to get involved it may be a blessing.
My brother recently called and told me he and new love may be here next month for a visit after a 10 year absence. Although negligent, he is the goldenchild to mom.
I have mixed emotions about this visit. Hope it's just to introduce us to his new love and not to get his inheritance early. If mom has to go on medicaid they look back 5 yrs on gifts and penalize the patient (mom) that amount in care costs.
My brother has never been greedy but I don't know this new woman and loneliness can make a man do strange things. Mom would be more than happy to throw money at him in hopes of his return to visit more often, but would jeopardize her own wellbeing and my ability to help her in the process.
I'm hoping for the best and not sure how or if I will breach the subject yet. Going to have to pray hard about this one. I am in any case aprehensive; hopefully unvallidated.
So you see having brother step in may not always be a good thing.
i believe I posted this on another thread.
I found a good product reasonably priced at Costco in the Pet section.
"absorbz" TM. The pads ar thin, 22" x 22" & claim to absorb 4 cups of liquid & containodor neutralizers, blah, blah, blah.
100 for anout $15 seems reasonable! Cheaper than a medical supply place.
I wish I'd had them for my car seat & fabric chairs!
Now Dad has a catheter now.
Another intriguing scenario.
Cheers ~
Rip
The caregiving community is the most supportive I have seen anywhere. Some in our society could learn to live and let live as so many caregivers seem to do. It is refreshing to be a part of such an enlightened community of people who strive each day to do the right thing by others in our lives. In so doing, we ultimately discover ourselves, including through each other. Thank you all for being such inspirations.
GUILTY SHMILTY...LET IT GO....WHEN YOU NEED TO GET OUT YOU BETTER DO WHAT YOU GOTTA DO...ITS FOR YOUR OWN MENTAL HEALTH...- I KNOW I STILL FEEL GUILTY...IM WORKING ON IT! :)
It is very important to be o and patient with yourself.
Your parents WANT you to enjoy life. Guilt is a normal feeling. I suggest you forgive yourself and give yourself permission to have fun with friends (or as much as fun as you can have with your life obligatiions!) and know that you will be a better caregiver after some respite time.
I dont have friends around here. I miss that. I think respite time is healthy.
God bless you.
You need respite to keep you sane.
There is an article posted by AgingCare today that may help. It's called "Siblings in Denial...."
https://www.agingcare.com/articles/siblings-in-denial-about-elderly-parents-health-140800.htm
They could come in all alone and take over the rest of the caregiving, and they'd still be way behind. There is one sister who just cannot make it, has health and money problems, but her occasional concerned emails keeps her off my shit list.
Try not to be resentful. And try not to expect others to be a caregiver as you are. It will only make you bitter. And bitterness is unhealthy for you.
Hang in there. And God bless you for your love.
im super glad i found this site...i have a place to correspond and/or vent! amen to that..