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You're a very honest caregiver. Unlike others who always try to be "politically correct" and prefer to live in a world of fantasy.
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No, I don’t think it’s wrong. Medical science has just created a generation of people propped up to age toward being more and more dependent, and despondent, and demanding on what’s coming to be people in their 70s having to be The Place For Mom (or Dad) until they can’t, foregoing their inheritance so that the miserable elder can at least be pottied in some snf or trying to take on Hoyer lifts and all that at age 75.
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tygrlly1 Apr 2022
Totally agree Peggy Sue..as a retired Social Worker for over 30 years, I have seen good intentions to allow elderly people to " age in place" and support their self determination..which is a great idea, until reality sets in. The price of their " independence " is the loss of ours, and our health, our finances , and mental stability at the hands of the entitled seniors. Not advocating for warehousing in nursing homes, but this has created a generation of burnt out aging baby boomers frantically trying to juggle their own health , try to enjoy their own grandhildren if they can find some time and energy left over to do so, and start over to raise another generation of what I refer to as " wrinkled toddlers" who have taken no responsibilty to plan for their final years.
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O my God! So many similar stories about our difficult moms. Just wanting it all to end has got to be normal.
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Yes. I am looking forward to the day I have my freedom back and don't have to endure daily mental and sometimes physical abuse from my awful mother. Today she punched me in the mouth after she was upset with the way I held something while we were working on a simple home DIY. She calls me fat, ugly, a dumb b****, and even racial epithets. She's not that far gone yet and I dread that I may have to deal with her for another decade or longer.

Don't feel bad that you want to be rid of the one person preventing you from being happy. A lot of us would have infinitely better lives if we weren't taking care of an abusive parent.

I would have no problems caring for an aging parent who appreciated what I was doing but few of us were prepared to deal with an abusive and petulant parent worse than taking care of a child for much of our adult life.
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sp19690 Mar 2022
I don't understand why you are subjecting yourself to physical and verbal abuse by your mother. Please dont wait for her to die so you can be free.

I have found that abusive people tend to live a long time because they suck the life out of their victims. Your life and safety matter. You matter.
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My Mom always has ailments too. Always looking for attention and sooo critical. I left at 19. I don’t think I would be glad if my Mom died, but I might feel relief from anxiety and peace. Your feelings are normal considering your Mom’s personality. This is hard.💕
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BurntCaregiver Apr 2022
Mine too. Always had some ailment or another and a long history of depression and anxiety that she always refused to get help for. I was her scapegoat and the one who took all the blame and suffering of her mental issues and attention seeking behaviors since I was a little kid. I left young as well. I didn't see or speak to my mother one time for six years. Then she made some amends and we came to the conclusion that if I moved back and became her caregiver (with respect to my boundaries) that this arrangement would be beneficial to us both. I would get her house and she was made well aware that I would not be her caregiver if dementia shows up or if she refuses to get treatment for her mental illness.
It's gotten to a point now where her neediness and attention-seeking behavior is ruining my life. She doesn't have money for an AL or live-in help, so my sister and I will be discussing other possibilities.
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Yes

I hate caregiving. It has done a lot of damage to my life. I'm almost 30 and I've had to help my mom in some capacity since I was 17 and caregiving is the only thing I've done since graduating college. I'm at the point where my disdain for helping my mom 24/7 outweighs my love for her. I cringe at times when she needs me to do something.

However, having said all of that, I DO NOT want the caregiving to end with her dying. I don't want it to end with me dying either. I want it to end with her being mobile and able to live on her own again and I can leave the nest and start my life. I don't want it to end with one or both of us dying or go through something major, tragic, or controversial.
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MargaretMcKen Mar 2022
You and your mother both have an overdose of magical thinking. You “DO NOT want the caregiving to end with her dying”. Of course it will end with her dying, all lives end that way. Next magical wish is “I want it to end with her being mobile and able to live on her own again”. Do you have any justification for thinking that is possible? If so, why hasn’t it already happened? The older she gets, the less likely it is for the magic to solve everything!

You are too old to pin your life on the tooth fairy or Father Christmas!
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Depends upon whether their life is actually killing yours and if they’re willfully doing so. Also depends upon whether you’d simply like to see them and possibly yourself at peace.
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Admins: Could we move this old post to the "Discussions" section, I wonder?? It is a fascinating subject with more than 700 answers, still having people interested in the discussion. Seems misplaced in questions.
Reporting myself to make this query and appreciate your consideration.
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AgingCareCM Mar 2022
Hi AlvaDeer,

I see your point but cannot make this switch. Unlike questions, discussions do not have the "reply" feature. Changing this question to a discussion would delete all answers that have been posted as replies (like this one) from the thread. Thank you for your suggestion, though!
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I think what we want is this way of life to die. We want freedom again. We want our life back. Retirement back. I am so tired of being her everything and she is in an assisted living memory facility. I can not even fathom how you all do this at home 24/7. Fifteen hours a week of this screws up my life and energy level. I am a healthy 70 yr old and 3 years into this mess and I am worn out. It takes me a day to recover from the nonstop complaining or the crazy chatter about every man wanting her sexually or the wild delusional stories. I visit my moms body with someone I do not know living in it. Good Luck…If my mom lives to 100…I will be 83!!
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angryannie Jun 2022
Yes it will be nice to have our lives back and freedom once again, and my father is living with us in our home. I’m 56, my husband is 62. We’ve been married for nearly 5 years. Late starters, although hubby was married before. My Dad is 86 with mild dementia, and while he is not too hard to care for yet, as he can still shower himself and get lunch ready, I do everything else for him and he is grateful. But there will come a time when it will get harder for both us and him as the progression of dementia occurs. I hope he doesn’t have to face that as he was once an extremely intelligent man with a high IQ. We have our hard moments but most of the time it’s ok.
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I think its normal to fantasize about what life would be like for Yourself, once a toxic (difficult, demanding, unhappy, fill in the blanks as you wish) person dies out of your life. My mother was a terrible, toxic, narcissist who really ramped up (even for her!) the bad behavior toward the end of her life.( If a narcissist acts entitled, wait until they are told they really are dying; the Entitlement Stuff blows up unbelievably.) I felt nothing but relief when she died, and am grateful for every day without her presence in it. I don't feel guilty; I don't feel any loss; I just feel... happy, normal, able to love and be kind without looking over my shoulder all the time. Don't worry about what other people think of your thoughts. Your thoughts are healthy thoughts (meaning you are thinking of your own welfare); try to let go of the guilt (you were probably trained to feel it), distance yourself as best you can from your mother's presence and behaviors, so that you can get whatever peace you can until her time comes.
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imout01 Apr 2022
I went no contact with my abusive, malignant, narcissistic mother 4 years ago and she died earlier this year. She allowed my sister to live in a house up there street from her that my sister now “thinks” she owns. But, it will be sorted out through probate.

Two years ago, my downstairs neighbor wanted to suddenly become BFFs. She’d just hit about 60, but she wanted me to start doing things for her, while I work full time and she watches TV full time. I believe she now has MS. But, yes, these types think they will “decide” who will be their caregiver, how best they can trap them into it, they’ll smear campaign if you don’t and they don’t seem to care at all that the choice is actually yours. That you hold agency over whether or not you’d like to give up possibly the remainder of your life, in their interest, even when they say there like a king or queen, preparing for nothing, not considering purchasing long term care, and possibly not even trying to find what services there are to help them, because they decided they wanted the personal service you “should” be freely providing. They don’t even have to know you. Even other enabling numb nuts, who either don’t work or aren’t ambitious with personal pursuits think they can shake their finger at you, for not diving into caregiving. Bottom line is that CAREGIVING IS A CHOICE, particularly, when you don’t know and aren’t related or married to a person!
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https://deathwithdignity.org

This is a BIG topic at our house as we come to terms with our own mortality.
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What are you doing to make yourself fine? Meditation? Daily exercise program? Family therapy? Considering a move to a new locale? Joining any groups or organizations?
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Your mother appears to display mental illness, and you are fine to vent out in this toxic environment. Perhaps seek professional counsel to help you cope.
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I know in my case; I didn't want either one of my parents to die, but they were both selfish people. My mother was an alcoholic and before she died, I got the burden of taking care of her and my disabled sister. My dad remarried a few months afterwards since he had abandoned the family. He washed some clothes one evening before going to his teaching job and never returned. He didn't bother to tell anyone goodbye. It was twenty-five years of hell between us. He had hospice towards the end of his life. I couldn't stand the situation he had placed the immediate family. I wasn't glad that he died. I was just glad to be done with all of the pretense of dealing with his new family who couldn't stand my guts.

I haven't been to his gravesite since he was buried, and that has been almost eight years ago. I didn't grieve him that much either.
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You are Emotional Stressed, and it's okay to feel the way you feel, but share your feeling with God, tell him you had Enough. Trust God to handle 🙏 your prayers. He knows what is Best for us all,and everything happens in his timings. Thanks for sharing, Gjbrown
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Nobody likes to talk about this subject, but I'm sure it's in the mind of every caregiver. Realistically speaking, death is better that a miserable life. I some countries euthanasia is legal. I believe that in Oregon too. Death is a natural phenomenon, it's not a sin. Anything that was born has to die, as simple as that. In the U.S., the end of life has become a booming business. People with great sacrifice save money for the golden years. However, they never enjoy it because it's spent in an expensive miserable end if life.
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My father lived with me for several years. He was such a kind sweet person, trying not to be a burden. He became seriously incapacitated(not demented) but just asked not to be institutionized. He was very introverted, quiet so I understood. The day I called home health for more help with his care he dropped dead in my living room. I did not mourn as it seemed a blessing but still miss him 18 years later.
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Shayshay318 Apr 9, 2024
your dad sounded like a great guy. I am sorry that he passed away. May he rest in peace.
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Well, I'm not God, but I know who is, so my prayer is for mercy and comfort. However that is meted out, I pray for mercy and comfort.
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There are many reasons you would wish someone to pass rather than stick around in the condition they are in. I loved my husband dearly. He had ALS. In my opinion the worst disease a person can get. He stayed upbeat and positive though his entire 4 year battle. But toward the end it was impossible. He was losing his ability to speak, swallow, and breathing was getting harder. He was alreaday almost completely paralyzed and needed 24/7 care. What was about to happen to him was too horrible to even contemplate. Being totally "locked in" to your body while your mind is still functioning normally, unable to move a muscle or tell anyone what you needed. You better believe I prayed for him to pass.
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Sulmr10 Mar 2022
I am going thru this right now, my husband has ALS and it is an absolutely horrible disease. I'm so sorry for your loss, but I do understand the frustration and do believe we will both be at peace once he passes. How old was your husband? I hate what this is doing to him and me. This has been a nightmare even before he was finally diagnosed 2 years ago. He is not bitter at all but I am very angry, exhausted and depressed. I think the worst part is that there is no cure, no hope. All his family lives far away and it is even more exhausting when they come to visit as they expect to stay in our home and I have to prepare meals, etc. I now know that caregiving is one of the most difficult things I have ever done and have enormous respect for anyone who does this for their loved ones.
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I specifically pray for best outcome. The best outcome for me would be closure.
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No it is not my mom has well outstayed her welcome on this planet. She has caused me no end of grief and nearly wrecked my marriage intentionally and with passion. Unfortunately God and the Devil are in deep discussions as to who will take her. Its not going well.
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stilldealing1 Mar 2022
Thank you so much for telling it like it is with these people! And with a sense of humor. Yes, I'm sure my mother is smelling brimstone and bossing the Devil around something fiercely right now...
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I have wished random rude strangers to peace out from this world but not family. I admit I have wished things to be over( and they are now- I just cried a river, im in deep grief) when my grandma was in the sun downing stage of her dementia, or just behaving bizzare. But by over I didn't want her to die, no NEVER. She was the sweetest most innocent person ever. My family felt complete with her under my roof. I don't get along with my mom, she is quite negative and I often think about her aging and how it will affect her, I don't think id hope she dies, i'm not that type of person with close family members. Looks like you lack that nurture with your mother, as you seem rather annoyed with her. She is a burden to you, it looks like.
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No, it isn't. Some people just live too long. It's that simple.
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cherokeegrrl54 Feb 2022
So very true…..
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No your not. My husband and I wishes that about my mother n law who lives with us quite often. She gets mad at my son who has been the only one of her kids to stick around and take care of her and she calls him very bad names and tells him she hates him. She does not have dementia she is just an evil mean narcissist who no one can stand or tolerate. She has had my living kind husband in tears for the way she treats him and have treated him all his life. We are pretty much stuck with her and her living with us has definitely put a strain on our marriage. Her health has declined so she sleeps a lot which is great because that keeps her from being up and talking crazy to my husband and me. We both feel like she has lived a nice long life although most of it has been making everyone else miserable. I have never seen a 93 year old woman as mean and horrible as her. With that being said my husband and I would not be devastated when God takes the wheel and call her home
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PeggySue2020 Jan 2022
Just because she doesn't have dementia doesn't mean you have to put up with living with a bad person, Jenny. Not even a "helpless" one that's just vile and nasty like her.

ER dump her and make the state take care of her. Some people don't deserve to have a family. She is one of them.
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No it’s not wrong.
When we are seeing Loved ones suffer and be in pain I think it’s only human to want that pain to end for them and for them to in peace.
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cherokeegrrl54 Feb 2022
Also for the ones she is torturing with her meanness, they deserve to live in peace also!
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My mother lives with me, my husband and young adult children. She has Alzheimer’s and she is 76. She is not a “mean” woman…. but she is extremely opinionated and tries to come across being nice and sweet to everyone yet always has to throw a dig into every conversation. She is selfish, crude at times and has a lack of respect for my home and the rules of my home (which are not many for her considering she does not cook or clean). The only thing she really does for herself is buy cigarettes so she can smoke two packs a day. She also has COPD and numerous other ailments. I am her healthcare proxy and I do a good job getting her excellent doctors and care.

However, with her memory declining she has made life at times miserable for everyone in my home. She puts a strain on my marriage even though my husband is a very patient and kind man. I don’t wish for my mother to die, but there are times that I fantasize when she isn’t here that I have the house to myself again. I think about all the positives of her not being here constantly. I think for me it’s a resentment that is deep and it’s difficult for me sometimes to remember the person that she used to be. I have felt the same way as you and guilty that I think those negative thoughts…. but I have read that it’s natural for caregivers to get burned out and to be resentful and to start thinking about what it would be like when that person is no longer here.
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lealonnie1 Jan 2022
Your mother is living in YOUR home, smoking 40 cigarettes a day which is exposing you, your husband & CHILDREN to toxic fumes, in addition to making life miserable in other ways for your entire family, and YOU are feeling guilty for having negative thoughts?????????? Girl, I'd kick those cigarettes to the curb IMMEDIATELY and if mother didn't like it, I'd kick her to the curb with them, to be honest with you! Your home, your rules, and you all have a right to live in a clean & healthy environment free from smoke, tar, nicotine and toxic fumes! I feel sorry for your children.
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Usually right or wrong is determined by the amount of flack you get after doing something. I think that hoping that somebody dies is wrong if you say it in public. If you keep it to yourself is alright. I'm sure that many caregivers do that anyway, There is no reason for making those people feel bad for having a thought that is logical and practical.
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Not in the sense of hoping that they pass away, because of severe pain or severe illness. As that is different. That means that you want the person out of any pain and suffering. It would be wrong to hope that anyone dies in the latter sense. As in, someone who is just getting on your nerves. I used to have a fiance who had cancer. I wasn't wishing that he would die. It was just that I knew that he could die at any moment. Given how fragile the cancer was getting. It was a constant question of would he die today? Or tonight? Or tomorrow? I didn't even really like having to ask myself this same question every day, but when you're fiance has cancer, it becomes a completely separate world from everyday society. And you feel cut off from the world. Sorry for rambling on. I went a bit off track there. 😊
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I’m so grateful for this thread & the fact that it is many pages long! I often wish this for my mother and freedom from this grinding situation for myself. Then I feel guilty and sad because once mom goes there’s no immediate family left barring one sibling who has been completely MIA barring asking for money. Mom does not want to be so incapacitated but is also a lively type so wishing her suffering to be over is also likely not her own wishes. In any case these are just thoughts not actions, but it’s a horrible merry-go-round.

Thanks to everyone here for ‘getting it’! It helps at least to know a bunch of us feel the same
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If someone is making another person's life a miserable, infernal Hell and that poor soul also has to be the dementor's caregiver, how could they not want that person to die.
There is no human being on this earth who has unlimited patience and compassion. At some point the well runs dry and there's none left. Especially if the caregiver has an abusive history with the needy, elderly person or persons they are caregivers too.
Even when there isn't a history of abuse, the elderly narcissism, complaining, morbidity, negativity, instigating, gaslighting, and last but not least the attitude of entitlement that elderly people often have in expecting others to cater to their every whim and demand simply because they are old.
No one can put up with this indefinitely no matter how patient, loving and compassionate they are. At some point they start to resent the elderly person they are a slave to. They can't change one more diaper. They can't scrub one more urine or sh*t stain off the carpeting or furniture. They can't spend one more second in the filthy, stinking, hoarded house. It's made ten times worse when the elder appreciates nothing and believes their caregiver really doesn't do all that much for them.
At some point, everyone wishes them dead because it means their slavery ends.
No one should ever feel guilty for thinking it because we all do.
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Mar68141 Jan 2022
Well shared. I am glad I am not the only one.
Every day I struggle with my mother in law.
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