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I have always lived no more than 30 miles from my Mother. We have always been extremely close, like best friends too. My brother lives out of state. He and I have always had a non-existent relationship. He maybe visited my Mother in the past ten years, two times. He is a bully and very controlling. Since he doesn't like me and is jealous of my Mother and my relationship, he slowly has taken things away from me, credit card I had for emergency use for my Mother (that she gave me), key to her house (that she gave me), he changed the locks, and now as of Easter Sunday he has a no-trespass warning on me to not visit in my Mother's home. And when I try to call, the boyfriend will not let me speak to her. What can I do legally to allow me to visit my Mother on a weekly basis as this is NOT what she would EVER want. This is elderly abuse from what I can tell. Can anybody help?

Please, check date before posting. OP only made 2 posts both in April. By posting it brings the post back up to the top.
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Welcome to Forum Momlove:
You say that you have been your mother's caregiver for many years?
Does that mean she lived with you or you lived with her?
It says in your profile you never lived more than 30 minutes from her.
You now mention a "boyfriend" who won't let you in Mom's home. Is this the boyfriend of your brother, or is this Mom's boyfriend?
You say that though your brother only saw your mother a total of two times over a decade she STILL made him her POA?
Do you know that is very unusual behavior? Do you suspect there was any trickery here on your brother's part?

All that you wrote us left me thinking "what is missing in this story?".
It would be very abnormal for a partner of your mother and the son of your mother who is POA to SHUT OUT a lovingcaregiver daughter who wishes only to help and assist.
So imho there is SOMETHING missing in this story.
It makes me long to hear brother's and boyfriend's side of the story.

If boyfriend were speaking to me, what do you think he would tell me about this situation?
If brother were speaking to me, what do you think he would tell me about this situation?
That is to say, what REASONS have they given you for their behavior in shutting you out?

On the face of what you tell me I am left with only two conclusions: They are an "either/or".
1. Either both your Brother and your Mother's boyfriend are purely evil and have entrapped your mother and keep her jailed and hidden away from you.............................
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2. The brother is the POA and the boyfriend is the partner now caring for mother and protecting her and her finances because there was some unaccounted for expenditures, or there is some disruptive argument going on in front of mom that is disturbing to them.

You can/should see an elder law attorney. Gather your facts, any information from witnesses, any proof you have, and attend an hour of time with the attorney.

I do not see you mention that your mother has any dementia.
Where is SHE in all of this?
Because if your mother is competent she can change her POA any day she would wish to.

I wish you good luck ongoing.
It's often difficult for us to make any judgements when we get one side of the story here. I hope you will update us on what you find out from the attorney.

If you suspect your mother is "being withheld" illegally from you, and/or that there is some abusive behavior on part of brother or boyfriend, do call APS to make a report.
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AlvaDeer May 30, 2024
Ah, when WILL I LEARN?
I know, Forum members..............don't say it...............likely I will NEVER LEARN.

I have been trying of late SO hard to look at the date posted. To see if others already posted what I will, to read old posts and profiles. And what do I do?????
I of course ANSWER SOMEONE I ALREADY ANSWERED!
Not only that but I already said she never came back to speak with us.

I will be punishing myself severly for this infraction.
I will be trying to be more careful.
Lordy!
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It's unfortunate that those in law and social services don't receive more training on recognizing Narcissistic Personality Disorder. I have helped dozens of people in similar situations attempt to regain access to their loved ones who have had similar experiences as yours.

There is no rhyme or reason for their behavior, other then their perceived power increase, financial gaij and general enjoyment of tormenting the non NPD person.

Those who have responded referencing some type of rational that hasn't been disclosed are what the NPD person relies on to assist them with their successful abuse of others.

They are naive, enabling and incorrect. They are lucky to have lived a life free of those with NPD, but their lack of recognition for someone who clearly displays narcistuc behavior is unacceptable and leads to an exorbitant amount of abuse to vulnerable populations.

APS will fall victim to them. Courts will be fooled by them and in the end, they typically win.

I would suggest requesting your brother undergo psychological evaluations for personality disorders. APS may, not for sure, but may assist with that.

Your brother will say he's not a narcissist if asked. This is your primary validation, as those not with NPD respond with "I am? Really? What makes you say that?". NPD just say no without grounds to do so.
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Sheri6185 Oct 11, 2024
I can so relate. Eye Care gave for my mom for six years so I was doing my work and doing my brothers work as the executor because he didn’t show up for six years and then when he shows up, it’s finally where I’m so burned out and he said he was only gonna keep her for two weeks. Well guess what? He never brought her back. I’m wondering if there’s anything legally I can do does he really have permission to just take my mom without my permission? And he won’t give me a copy as well either and I am a primary beneficiary.!!
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Something is fishy! Claiming that you had the close relationship and your brother only visited twice a year sounds like you are the one playing God with your Mom’s feelings and rights.
Maybe she was afraid and needed him to live with her instead of the 30 mile occasional visit that you could provide.
Did you see your Mom on Easter Sunday? Was she healthy, happy and well cared for? Do other providers, doctors, caregivers, friends visit with her? If you are innocent and truly concerned for Mom. call the police or bring a family friend (3rd party) with you to visit. If your brother won’t allow you to visit, step away and calmly call the police and request a wellness check. They will speak with Mom and investigate your Moms condition (grooming, state of mind and cognitive functioning etc. ) how the home is kept, and make a record of their findings in the incident report.

If it is true that you are concerned, you should ask for recent medical records and prescription records that would reveal that Mom is getting care and taking meds. To make sure Mom is not subjected to medical neglect by your brother. Of course since you and Mom were so close, you probably have already called neighbors etc. who would also have concerns for your Mom’s well being.
Elder attorneys have no genuine concern for your Mom - they only want to get paid.
If all of the above checks out- extend an olive branch by asking your brother how you can support him in caring for your Mom.
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AlvaDeer May 3, 2024
Cathy, this OP never returned to us at all to comment or fill us in. Yes, that often means, as you say, that something is fishy. Or, more likely, that we have not been given the whole story.
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This happens quite a bit, especially when money is involved or the potential of the money, and it matters not, if you are family to these types of people. Actually, I see a few things here. First of all, is your mom still coherent and cognitively intact? In other words, does she still have a voice and making rational decisions on her own? If this is the case, she can revoke the POA and have a new one put in place and/or request a Guardian. If she is not cognitively intact then you can file for Guardianship. In order to file for Guardianship her doctor will need to deem her incompetent and in need of a Guardian, of Estate and Person. A Guardian trumps anything else in place so the POA would be null and void at that point. I'd also contact an elder law attorney and consult for the state your in as some laws differ here and there.

Good Luck!
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get an elder lawyer!!
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Momllove123: Retain an attorney posthaste.
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It’s definitely elder abuse. Your mom has to speak up & say she wants to see you though.

Document everything with dates and what happened. This happened to me and my sibling poisoned my mom against me telling her lies & that I was trying to steal her money. She had dementia & was afraid to go against him.

APS was useless along with every other agency I tried to get help from. He got her to amend her trust removing myself & my kids leaving everything to him 100%.

When she went in a nursing home I contacted Alliance For Better Long Term Care & I finally got to see her before she passed. I only wished I had gotten a lawyer sooner……you need someone who does litigation. Best of luck to you.
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Connect with your state's Department of Aging to find out what your options are. You may need to get an attorney specializing in elder law. If you fight this, it can get ugly with your brother - are you prepared for this?
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Someone with POA (either kind) does not get to override the principal (your mom) if they are competent. What does your mom have to say about this? I agree with the other posters that it seems inexplicable from the facts given that you are not POA.


Separate from this issue with the brother, if she is competent she gets to decide who visits her own property regardless of any POA. If tge is competent and the boyfriend won’t let you talk to her or even have her come on the phone to say what she wants, you could conceivably have a basis for calling APS….if you have belief she is in danger or being held prisoner (which is more than just hearing that she doesn’t want to see you).
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I don't feel the answers were very helpful. If mothers home is now worth$1M there is plenty to be concerned about. As a professional in this field I've seen atrocious situations because of money. Taking this woman's situation on face value, first she needs to contact Adult Protective Services. They will evaluate what's going on. A parent who gives POA to an adult child does not mean they truly have best interest in mind. A parent can give POA under confusion, duress or misleading information. I'm distressed how most of the posts attacked the person who was seeking help. Even if she is all that they say she still deserves to be believed and deserves a helpful response. Adult Protective Services will figure it out.
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Yes this is elder abuse. You can contact your local Adult Protective Services and they will investigate your mother's situation. They are holding her prisoner in her own home. From there the court will figure it out. You can also get your own Family Services Attorney to assist you also. It's not only illegal, it's also criminal. There can be criminal charges.
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We seem to have seen a lot of these types of posts lately. Poster claims he or she was the primary caregiver, and spent the most time with parent, when all of a sudden a distant sibling steps in and takes control of parent and the original poster is left on the outs.

Something is not right here. Why, if you were the one closest to mom, did You not have POA, and why or how did your siblings have it?

This should serve as an example for all. If you want to live with parents before they become feeble or are the primary caregiver, make sure you get POA and not one of your siblings who visits twice a year and on holidays. If you can’t convince parents to sign over POA to you, and instead one of your siblings has POA, be aware that you will be in a very vulnerable and precarious situation.
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Jada824 Apr 14, 2024
Sometimes the parent gives POA to the oldest child or the son which happens quite often.

A POA who acts like this is certainly not looking out for the best interest of the parent

An elderly infirm parent can easily be swayed to believe the unscrupulous POA & follow his instructions
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We feel we are missing some of the complete story here.
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AlvaDeer Apr 13, 2024
Yes. Indeed.
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This has been happening for perhaps years, if not decades (the dynamics / relationship with you and your brother).

You need to take responsibility for 'allowing' it without - perhaps - intervening before now. While water under the bridge, why haven't you asserted yourself and your 'rights' sooner - over the years? Are you intimidated by your brother? Something is going on inside you that you need to admit / address; there is likely a lot of history that you are not sharing with us. You don't have to although you have to admit it to yourself.

As things are now, the only recourse I see is you getting an attorney.
I am not sure why you ask us "What can I do legally to allow me to visit ...)
I do not know or understand why you haven't enlisted an attorney yet.

It seems like you need to assess how you feel about your brother and the relationship you've had for perhaps decades. It has everything to do with why you've waited this long to address the need / issue. You need to have a conversation with your brother although I would recommend you contact an attorney first.

Gena / Touch Matters
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PolarBear70 Apr 13, 2024
I agree with your response because you were not just talking to her but somehow your words were ment for me to come across tonight as well, THANK YOU FOR YOUR HONESTY!
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So, on Easter Sunday you were told by your brother that you must leave and cannot return to visit again.
This doesn't happen out of the blue. Why not tell us what happened that caused him to say this. If your visits are bringing dissention in to the home, and brother is POA, then this may be one reason you are forbidden to visit.
Your brother, who is POA may also be concerned about this credit card use. Did you make purchases for yourself on that credit card, and if you in what amount?

You also say you have never had a relationship with this brother.
So we are missing most of the real story here and could only guess at the reasons this happened.

Short of contacting APS and an elder law attorney in your area I cannot think of anything you can do about this. Apparently the boyfriend and your brother are in agreement on this.

I wish you luck.
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The POA gets to make decisions he feels are in moms best interest. Why, if you and mom have been so close and brother has been out of the picture for so long, would she make HIM her POA and you powerless to do anything about the rules he installs? In your profile you say, "I truly believe it's only because my Mother felt since I loved her so much that she didn't want me to have to make decisions about her medical life, etc." This makes no sense to me as I'd want the person who loves me MOST in life TO be my financial and medical POA.

You can get a consultation with an elder care attorney about all of this, but I honestly believe the POA holds all the cards here.

Best of luck to you.
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MeDolly Apr 7, 2024
Agree, doesn't make sense does it?
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