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You look like a no thanks to me.
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BOJ - You have to pretend I’m a bad person so you don’t feel guilty about the things you did.

This one really resonates with me.
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Some of the most poisonous people come disguised as friends and family.
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Narcissist (noun):

A more polite term for a manipulative, evil person with no soul.
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You have to pretend I’m a bad person so you don’t feel guilty about the things you did.
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Thx Daisy. It's not much but better than nothing. I'm sorry you had to deal with suicide attempts, but very glad to hear he is doing so well.

BOJ -good ones.

sassy -welcome. Sounds like a lot of chaos. The only one who can get you out of this is you. A number of us here have been scapegoats to a narcissist and it makes life pretty unpleasant. i can only encourage you to build your own life apart from these people. Develop friendships with healthy people, develop your own interests - things that you enjoy. You don't have to be the "servant child" to your dysfunctional family. They are not doing you any good. Get a job and get your own place. I think then you will have a better chance of getting custody of your children. Good luck.
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My savior This is exactly what I need I keep going on the wrong forum I'm honestly barely hanging on by a thread I moved back in with my mother in 2007 after my divorce I was going through a custody battle my mother fell down a flight of stairs broke hip in November 2008 I lived here it fell on me my 3 year old son lived here and my brother and I have 3 narcissistic sisters and 2 other children 5 and 7 going from New Jersey to Pennsylvania fighting my ex husband for custody and one of my sister's is calling him behind my back making up lies about me for his case against me Evil anyway Mother gets on her feet end of January 2009 I get another job my brother has a massive stroke march 2009 falls on me none of those witches have ever stepped up 2012 SANDY the Storm I lived downstairs we got hit I lost just about everything including my car FEMA gave my mother a check including the money for my car she kept it my brother has not driven since 2009 and Mother since around 2012 she has been legally blind yet she was getting paid by medicaid to care for my brother? No one will tell me who her power of attorney is she won't either Dysfunctional is not the word yet I'm still here and I am broken and Mother is the covert narcissistic parent and I'm the scapegoat
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There is a place you can touch a woman that will drive her crazy. Her heart.
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also today’s words of wisdom:
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“I don’t recognize you — I’ve changed a lot.”
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today’s words of wisdom:
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“An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all.”
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today’s words of wisdom:
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To anybody I offended this year:
Work on yourself
so I don’t gotta do it again in 2026.
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more words of wisdom for today:
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“Before you put on a frown, make absolutely sure there are no smiles available.”
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EXCELLENT quote of wisdom:
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“Friendship is a wildly underrated medication.”
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“May you attract someone who speaks your language
so you don’t have to spend a lifetime translating your soul.”
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Golden, I'm glad there is more communication with your daughter. I understand BP a little bit, it's not easy and it's hard on those that love them. It does make relationship harder. I adore my oldest son, but I honestly just take what I can get outta him, we both know we love each other, this is just the way it is with him. He has a wonderful family, fantastic job, in the mental health field. That's all I really need. Sure Id love more, from him, but I just think about how glad I am he is happy, that's truly all I want from him.

He had a couple very intense suicide attempts , and an abandoned mill, fire , good times, 🤣🤔🤣. So I'm just very proud, of what he became
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Boj - the real question for me is do the actions follow the words?

Daisy - Glad your sis helped. Stand firm with your mom. Also glad your gf's bro came to help her. That's appropriate. It doesn't all have to fall on you. Some of us who were brought up to be helpers/fixers need to stand back and leave room for others to step up.

I have started communicating again with my BPD daughter. We are keeping it about her and her kids which tends to work better. I read here about how parents expect their kids to help them and it makes me wonder.
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Notwho - thanks for the update. We appreciate getting one. Sounds like some good changes are happening. The burden of care is being shared. I see from your profile that your mom has Alz as well as other health issues. It's common for them to try, but the seniors with health issues who need help from family cannot run the show. Their brain is already compromised and what you get then is the chaos you described.

Ideally ,family, if they can do so, need to sit down together and make a plan for mom's care in the near and not so near future. Sounds like the plan for the near needs is happening. %hat's terrific!!! It's important to be proactive, not reactive.

People with Alzheimer's often end up needing 24/7 professional care in a facility. I really wonder, at this point, if your mom should be living alone. Her dr would be the one to assess that. I think her motility will be further decline once her toes have been amputated.

In most cases it is not wise for family to move in with an Alz senior or for the senior to move in with family. The care quickly becomes too much. Your bro has work demands and you and your other subs have serious health issues. You have already found that it is too stressful.

I am glad you now have hope. There is a way through this. I'm not saying it will be a walk in the park, but it is doable if you all make sensible informed decisions. and most importantly, look after yourselves.

I do want to stress that any plans for your mom must be made in light of her finances. Medicaid is there for people who cannot afford NHs. Has your mom appointed a POA financial and medical?

It's very nice to see siblings who can work together. We don't always see that here. Please keep us udated. I hope your sis comes here too. There is lots of great information and support.

Wishing you all the best in working this through. I'll add my prayers for wisdom in working everything out. ((((hugs))))
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today’s words of wisdom:
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Don’t be too happy when people say the love you and care for you. The real question is “until when”??
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Notwhoshewants, I'm so glad we could help , and things are better. Hope your siblings keep helping you, and don't make you feel like you're so alone in this.

My mom's been trying so hard to manipulate me into doing a bunch of deep cleaning of her house, I just haven't been easily manipulated. Finally my sister showed up, this week and did it. 😆 She shows about every 3 months, so I got a break this week!!



Golden, yeah, she is the one with the foot operation, not sure the details, but she was supposed to stay at his house to recover, then something about him , dumping garbage on her head , the day of the operation. So that's why I got so stuck into helping her, that wasn't the plan. Anyways things are starting to sink in and her brother got here to help.
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Update: My brother finally came up and mowed moms lawn this week! While he was there doing it my sisters son showed up and weed-eated the lawn. While they were there her blood pressure sky rocketed so BRO took her to the doctor this week. We have had a few great conversations this week, he and I and in all fairness to him he does have a lot on his plate. He is going to try and get more involved and is committed to being the one to handle her upcoming and very needed toe amputations. My sister, who is going through radiation for aggressive breast cancer went and visited her tonight. I told her about this site and FOG and am going to send her the link to the forum. Feeling like some prayers are being answered. We have a 4th sibling, recovering from cancer and bedridden but recovering. Things are looking up. Between you all and the wealth of information here plus the help from my brother I feel hopeful.
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Daisy - I'm happy if it helps her.😊 I find if I understand what's going on in a relationship, I can deal with it better.

If he's a narcissist she is much better off without him!!!
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Golden, I took a picture of it and sent it to a gf that left her bf, but I know she is having a hard time getting over him. Anyways she was amazed at this , I think it will really help her , accept he is a narcissist and move forward.
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hx, Daisy. I had a lot of years to learn about it.
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Golden, that was so well said!!
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This is one of the ways a manipulator works. They find fault which lowers the other person's self esteem. So the other person keeps trying do better and please - which will never happen. As long as others play this game, the manipulator has power over them.

Some "wake up and smell the coffee" and realize it's a game that they will never win so they quit playing. Kudos to those of you who have quit the game with the manipulators in your lives.

Bob, your mom is jerking you around to keep you there. The only one who can change this is you. She's got what she wants - basically a servant who does what she wants. She goes on knocking you down to keep you in your place because if you start to feel better about yourself, and realize you deserve to have a life of your own, you would make some different decisions and not be her servant any more.

I remember reading that you have had dreams about what your life could be. It still can happen. Know many here are rooting for you to start living your dream.
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@Blickbob

I say this in the spirit of friendship because someone needs to say it to you.

You're a professional victim. You've been living in your own victimhood for so long that you don't even try to get away from your mother's abusive behavior. All of your posts here say the same thing. Your mother is an entitled, abusive senior brat who has no respect for you. No matter what you do for her she either minimizes your efforts or finds fault with it somehow. Yet you keep coming back for more. You remind me of the cartoon character Charlie Brown. Every time he came running up to kick the football, Lucy would pull it away, he'd fall down, and everyone would laugh. She'd promise time and time again that she wasn't going to and he always believed it.

How many more times are you going to fall flat on your face because let your mother pulls the football away?

Your mother is not going to change. She will never respect you. She is never going to appreciate you or show a moment of gratitude for anything you do for her. So stop.

Stop doing for her. Stop letting her ruin your life. Walk away and let her fend for herself. You have to look out for yourself because no one else is going to.

You're letting your role of being a victim abused by your mother to be your life. Don't you want better for yourself? You deserve better.
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blickbob, How old are you? If your mother is just starting her RMDs she is about 73 which makes you pretty young. Why are you allowing your mother to destroy your life?
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blickbob ,

Your mother will never do PT ( at home anyway) . She likes things just the way they are .
Read about grey rock . Don’t let Mom see that her disapprovals bother you .
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My MIL never liked how I loaded her dishwasher. Instead of thanking me for clearing the table and loading it, which most people would do, she would take everything out and reload it again. It used to drive me wild. I finally decided it was better for me not to do it anymore and I stopped.

The stupid stuff can drive you nuts.
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Blickbob, my mom's the same way, makes me feel like I can't even clean a toilet the right way.
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