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I’m a 35yo F. I have been legally married for 2 years but all together 15 years to my husband 42 M. Father In law died 3 years ago and MIL has been at our home for almost 3 years now. She is 76 and she can’t cook or clean or use the bathroom by herself anymore and she needs assistance with her pills.MIL needs help walking etc., etc. I’m a SAHM with 4 kids 10,4,2,1. My husband works from 8-6 (plus traffic almost 7-8pm) most days and is off 2 or 1 day at the week. His salary is not high and we are barely making it through. I had a conversation with my husband about MIL needing assistance because I CANT take care of her and the kids. My husband has 7 siblings and yet Husband refused to get their help (and siblings don’t really offer to help either nor do they visit often). Now after our talk husband sometimes before work he changes MIL diaper and gives breakfast and pills but during the day I have to do the rest. During the day MIL complains that she doesn’t feel good and she refutes to eat while she is with me. I have to call my husband so he can tell her to eat. As soon as my husband gets home she tells him how she hasn’t eat and that she doesn’t feel well. After he sits down with her and talk and all of that she is well again. Anyway after the talk I had with my husband about getting help my husband said he wasn’t going to give up his mom and that I should start the paper work (PAPER WORK FOR DIVORCE) and I just said ok. Few days passed and he was talking to me like we were the best of friends and being loving etc. etc. and even he had a meeting with his siblings but yet NOTHING has changed. Today I send him a message because of something that happened with MIL hiding pills and stating that she had dropped them. I spend a good 10 minutes looking for them in the floor because of fear out of NY kids eating them. After asking her a few times she gave me the pills from her pocket. I told my husband and he’s reply said to not give her anything anymore and that she will just have to eat until he got home (GUILT TRIPING ME) I told him that I wasn’t going to allowed the guilt trip just because he refuses to ask his 7 other siblings for help. And that I’m starting the divorce paper and he just said that I have money (which is not mine it’s the kids) and that I should start the divorce. And from there his replies were just an ok. I stopped responding but I guess it makes me sad to know that he doesn’t care to lose me or to cut his time short with the kids just because he thinks that he is solely responsible for MIL when he has a lot of help around him. I’m tiered. Physically and emotionally.

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Hi, and sympathy. I’d suggest that you try for a small step first, rather than go straight away to divorce. Perhaps:
1) Write a letter to the seven siblings, saying what you are being required to do for MIL and that DH has refused to ask for any help – from them or from paid carers. Tell them that you feel that MIL is playing helpless, refusing to co-operate with you, and requiring extra time from your DH (which he can’t spend with you or the kids). You are looking after MIL, DH, and 4 kids (including 2 todlers). Say that you can’t keep going.
2) Say that DH has suggested that you ‘start the paper work for divorce’, if you can’t cope. Say that whether or not you move out, or he moves out, you will NOT be caring for MIL. DH can’t work and care for MIL. They need to think as a family about how they are going to arrange care for MIL. Suggest that they have a family meeting without you to work out how they want to cope. It should NOT involve the option of you continue to do what you are doing now.
3) Look at your finances, and at a minimum split any savings that are in joint accounts. Put your half into an account in your sole name BEFORE you write the letter or go any further.

Your husband is trading on his belief that you won't take this any further. You need to shake him up. It is also only fair to let the siblings know in advance what is going on. Let them think about the situation for a while, before you actually pay for a lawyer to start divorce. Good luck!
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I suggest two things:

Meet with a divorce lawyer to find out exactly what would be involved. How would custody and child support work. How to access and monitor all your financial accounts to make sure your husband doesn't start hiding assets, etc. in anticipation of a divorce and catch you off-guard. Don't tell your husband about this. You aren't starting a divorce, but protecting yourself and your children in case, sadly, it reaches that point.

Take your children on vacation for a week. If your oldest is in school, he'll have spring break coming up soon. Stay with your parents if necessary, even if they are local (so it's not really a trip). But leave the house and don't go back for the full week. Let your husband see what it's like to deal with his mother full-time for a week, and how much he will miss you all if you actually were to divorce.

In the meantime, if your MIL doesn't want to eat, well, fine. Her choice. Anything else that is not an urgent need, same thing. Your husband can fix her meals and whatever else she needs when he gets home.

A marriage is supposed to be a partnership, not a dictatorship. Your husband doesn't get to dictate that you have to take care of his manipulative mother.

I'm sorry you're in this situation, and hope your husband's eyes will be opened to the reality.
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Anonymous20 Mar 5, 2025
I believe this has been the most helpful voted. And I arranged for a meeting this Friday. And yes I think I will be leaving to my moms after I ask the lawyer if that would not affect me or accuse me of something.. I’m able to pick and drop my daughter off ..
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Trying to sort this out:
1. You had three children with a man you lived with, without benefit of marriage.
2. You lived with this man for 15 years. During that time he took in MIL (BEFORE getting married.
3. You then got married and had yet another child.
4. All children are now very young at ages 1, 2, 4, and 10.

I do not see divorce as an option here.
Unless you plan to leave all four children with your husband, I don't see how you will work or support them.
I don't see how your husband, already spending his entire day at work, will support two households.

The mistakes we make in life ongoing have consequences.
The siblings aren't helping and that WILL NOT CHANGE.
You have taken an elder into your home knowingly and willingly and made it her home, and you continued to have four children.
These aren't the sort of "mistakes" that you can just say "Oh, wrong size, throwing that one in the hopper".
These are human beings.

I can't imagine a way out of this creation.
I hope others are much more bright than I am and have an idea how to help you, because MIL is quite young, and I suspect she has a good two more decades of life left in her.

I wish you good luck. I feel very sorry for the children caught up in this.
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Anonymous20 Mar 5, 2025
I used to work having two kids (my two eldest) and I’m how is it a mistake that I have made ? That makes no sense..
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You are not wrong for wanting to stop being caregiver for your MIL . I don’t blame you if you divorced . But as already said , how can you go to work and support yourself ? I think that’s why your husband tells you to start the paperwork . He thinks you won’t leave.

You married your husband not your MIL . Your husband should be putting you and his kids first . Your MIL is not your responsibility .

Have you suggested marriage counseling ? Maybe the counselor can get through to him . If he says No . I would go stay with your parents with your kids if possible , let him deal with his mother . And speak to a lawyer .
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JeanLouise Mar 6, 2025
I doubt he would go. He thinks she’s trapped with little ones and has her over a barrel. I think hubs is a selfish SOB.
The in-laws have established boundaries and that’s their right.
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Your husband is very much counting on you not taking any action and doesn’t believe you’ll leave him and his mother. I hope you have somewhere to go and can leave with the children for a couple of weeks. Use the time for a mental health break, to see an attorney for a consultation about your best options, to seek some counseling, and find out for sure if your husband does not care if you and his children are gone. This time and information gathered will give you rest and some clarity on your next steps going forward. Expect nothing from husband's siblings, they’ve shown they aren’t choosing to be involved, though you may disagree there’s no alternative but to accept their choices. I’m sorry you’re in this position. I raised four children and well know what a job that is, without an incompetent elder added in
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Nothing will change until you change it. Do what you have to do for you and the kids to have a normal peaceful life.

Can you go to your mom’s or your sisters for a week? Let him see how bad it is when he has to leave work to handle her.
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I find it very sad that a grown a$$ man would put his mother before his wife and children. To me that says it all and should be a no brainer about what needs to be done.
But until you get the divorce ball rolling, take your children on a 2 week vacation far from your husband and MIL, and give your husband a taste of what caring for his mother full-time looks like.
That may just change his mind about what needs to be done with his mother.
And if it doesn't, well then you know what needs to be done.
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If you were to divorce, it wouldn't "be over elder care". It would be because your husband doesn't value you or respect your opinion. Marriage is a partnership, not a dictatorship, and he has shown you that he doesn't consider you an equal partner.

Any husband whose first reaction to a disagreement is "file papers" is not one worth having, in my opinion.

As far as people being "disappointed" in you, well, that is their problem, quite frankly. They aren't walking in your shoes. And I'm sure God has a great many more things he is disappointed in with the human race than a marriage ending.

More important things for you to be concerned about is how to support yourself and your 4 children. Concentrate on that, rather than worrying about others opinion of you.

Good luck.
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Bulldog54321 Mar 6, 2025
Exactly correct.
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Your husband is absolutely unrealistic, callous and treating you like slave. The empty threat of divorce is another reflection of not giving a s*** about the burden you carry.

Do you have any options of leaving for a few days/weeks? I know this is a big ask with several children in your care. At the least, maybe find yourself a full time job during the day while kids are at school. Unfortunately your husband needs a wake up call and be THE caregiver for his mommy.

This is tremendously unfair and I wish you the best of luck to be free of this servitude.
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BurntCaregiver Mar 6, 2025
Exactly. Get a job and that takes care of the MIL problem because there won't be anyone there to caregive for her.
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Playing the Devils Advocate here....
You have been together 15 years total.
You have been married for 2 years.
MIL moved in a year before you got married.
I am also going to presume that she needed a caregiver when she moved in.
Has you husbands work schedule change in the past year?
Why would you expect anything to change?
OK, done with my bit
If your husband has told you to begin the process of divorce do just that.
Talk to a GOOD lawyer and I think when he finds out how much it will cost him he might change his tune.
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Does MIL have any assets or is she getting Social Security or Pension?
If so use that money to pay for caregivers
You and your husband should also be getting compensation for your expenses. MIL should be paying her portion of ALL expenses. 8 people living in the house she should be paying 1/8 of ALL expenses.

And just a thought. You say you are a Stay at home mom. You also say you are barely making it. Is there a way that you can get a job to help with expenses?
Yes this would mean finding care for the kids not in school and that would be an expense as well. But it would get you out of the house and your husband would then have to find care for his mother.
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First of all no man (or woman) should have to put in the number of hours at work that your husband does. I know how this because a 12-hour workday was normal for me because I'm a new business. I've cut that back now some. Work can't be a whole person's life and from the sound of those hours, it's your husband's life.

Forget about being a 'SAHM' and go get a job to bring income into the household so your husband doesn't have to work himself to death. School will provide the daycare for your 10 and 4 year old, and the younger kids will need a daycare arrangement which can be done. Some public schools start pre-school at 3 years and it's free.

You go and get a job. This takes care of your MIL problem because there will be no one to care for her at home. So she gets placed in LTC or one of her other kids takes her in. If your husband refuses this, then tell him the two of you are through because you can't live like this. Nor should you have to. Your situation isn't fair to anyone in your household. Not you, not your kids, not your MIL, and not your husband. Make him understand this.

Your husband does not want to be married to you anymore and he's using his mother's care needs as the reason. It is not. He has four children with you. It's time for him to grow up. Make him understand that divorce right now will cost way more than what he's paying now to support the house. So MIL goes into LTC or to one of her other kid's homes. If not, then your husband better start working 16 and 18 hour days because he's going to need to.

Good luck.
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Daughterof1930 Mar 6, 2025
Referring to school as daycare is a slap to educators
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I am being paid to be my father's caregiver. (Both of my parents live with my husband and I, I just started home health care for Mom and the come in and do her pills. It's amazing how much that helps. ) I'm still working on getting a care aide to clean their part of my house. I turned the end of my home into a suite so they have a bedroom, living room and private bathroom. Just speak to your MIL doctor about needing help and medicaid will cover in home health care. That will free you up some and make things easier for both of you. Good Luck!
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Anonymous20 Mar 7, 2025
so as far as I know mil is not in Medicaid. And after an incident (I took her to her doctors appointments and my car broke down with her and my 3 small kids and he left me in the free way to figure it out) I told my husband I will not be involved in the doctors appointment anymore. So I don’t have any access to her doctors anymore.
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You contact his 7 siblings and tell them that MILs care has gotten too much with 3 kids under 5. Then tell them if one of them is not willing to take her in, she will need to be placed. If she has no money, then Medicaid is applied for.

Your MIL sounds like she has Dementia. If this has not been diagnosed it should be. Make her an appt with her PCP for a full physical. Medicare pays for it once a year. Tell them its her annual. Your MIL will get worse if Dementia is involved. There is no way you can keep this up.
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AlvaDeer Mar 6, 2025
To be honest, when siblings bow out, talking to them do no good.
Siblings such as these believe for the most part that the siblings who are assuming care of elders are "foolish" in doing so.
They will simply say that it is "your problem."
I have never seen such siblings step up, myself. I never even go there anymore and think it's a waste of energy.
It's most certainly, however, an option to give it a try as there's absolutely nothing to lose.
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Leaving for a week with the kids would give him a taste of his future after you “file the papers” lol. 

Like he literally won’t be able to do it without you so after day 2 he would probably have readjust his attitude. 

Joke’s on him.
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Leave for 2 weeks with the kids. Go to your parents with the kids.

Give him and his siblings a week notice that you will not be caring for MIL those two weeks.

This may change your husband.
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Anonymous20 Mar 7, 2025
I already told him that starting startinf Friday (today) im not taking care of her and that he needs to find care outside the home because I don’t want any stranger at home. Nor am I going to be leaving w their siblings. Soooo we will see next Monday when he has to work what he will do.
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Caregiving can be very hard on a marriage. I am a married man and we moved my wife's 88 year old father (FIL) in to our house about 9 months ago (won't get into the reasons...too long). He stays with us Mon-Fri and the weekends with her sister, who lives 10 minutes away. Originally, she was going to take him in, but she works from home and he would NOT leave her alone. She called my wife in tears and here we are. He has many, many faults from being dirty, not cleaning up after himself, drinks every night and really only cares about what affects him. He really doesn't respect women and will give my wife and her sister crap, but not me or my brother-in-law. My FIL got loud and snippy with my wife shortly after coming to our home and I let him know in no uncertain terms was he going to do that in my home. He and I got into a heated argument one night and I told him he could leave (of course, he didn't). He is slowly learning that the world doesn't revolve around him and all of us do not bend to his will. He just restarted chemo for cancer that went from his colon (removed surgically) to his liver (stabilized) and now showed up in his lungs. My wife is disabled, so she is home all day and cares for him. He's not bed bound or anything, but we do cook his meals, do his laundry, etc. There are some nice moments like when you walk in the room and he is sitting watching TV and petting the cat. That being said, if we also had him on the weekends, I would have to give her the ultimatum of him going into AL or me leaving. I could not have him there 100% of the time. I already feel like my home has not been my home for the past 9 months. So, come Friday evening, we are more than ready to take him to my SIL and BIL's house.
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Anonymous20 Mar 7, 2025
This ! Siblings won’t even take her for a weekend. My HB has to go drop MIL off to their house. Or I have to drop her off and pick her up. And then she even complains that we leave her when it’s her other kids .. (we don’t live her with strangers) they are her own kids. It’s crazy .
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Folks encouraging OP to get a job may not realize childcare costs well over 10 grand per year, per child. So that's minimum 30 or 40 grand for the 1,2 and 4 year old. Preschools cost money and generally are only a few hours per day, two to three days a week, so that's a non-option for 4. And the unless the 10 year old is able to take the school bus (which many states do not even have any more) to and from school, to and from an empty house where they can safely care for themself until a parent gets home, additional childcare costs will need to be paid to before and after school programs. Unless OP can magically get all this child care lined up and go right into a job paying 70k or higher per year it makes zero sense to advise "get a job". 

Which, by the way, raising kids is a job. You can tell because if you can't or won't do it you have to pay someone handsomely to do it for you. 
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I personally don't think you want a divorce: you want him to sit down, LISTEN to you and make decisions that are best for the two of you and the kids.

My DH responded to me the 2 or 3 times I threatened divorce over CG for his elderly parents (he felt that I should have as much in the game as he did--well, I was also caring for my OWN aging parents and he never did a single thing to lift that burden from me) by kind of laughing it off, like "you won't be able to make it on your own". It was demeaning to me and has taken him many years to actually realize it.

As much as we hate to 'make a fuss', he isn't going to DO anything different until you probably DO either leave him with the kids and let him flounder, or worst case, file for divorce. I wouldn't just file--I'd leave first and kind of push an agenda of couples therapy or whatever you can get.

FWIW--he can't afford a divorce. The cost of a SAHM, running the show, is around $140K a year. My Dh joked that he couldn't afford to divorce me, as he'd have to pay out so much $$.

It's up to your DH to contact his sibs and make a plan. Let them KNOW how you feel and what you are planning. If nobody will step up and help, then your DH has to choose between mom and wife.

Mom must have some kind of income. If nobody wants to take her in, then DH needs to take some time to find an alternate place for her. I watched my own DH and his sibs take more than a year out of their lives to cater to a demanding mother, who, it turned out, was so far gone into her dementia she thought the year the 'kids' were caring for her--that they were employees of the NH she was living in. She was IN HER OWN HOME. They moved her to ALF and her statement was "This place is a lot nicer than the old one you had me in." She was in her OWN HOME.

Sorry, just typing that out makes me grit my teeth.

My kids were all grownups by the time my CG for the parents got hard--but they still resented the fact that I was gone A LOT and not available to them.

I sure wish you good luck. Be tough and know you have a LOT of cyber friends who know exactly what you are feeling and going through.
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Anonymous20 Mar 7, 2025
I already talked to him and at first he just said yes to a plan of having my MIL to do 1 month each sibling. Then he said he wasn’t going to do it. And then he said he was but nothing has changed since the meeting with siblings it’s about to be 1 month. Unfortunately we had a fight the other day and at this point we are not even talking anymore. Anyway MIL is still at home. At this point I’m now afraid that he would want to bring a sibling to live with us and I’m not going to that again.

thank you for the kind response ! I believe I’m not going to divorce just yet. I’m getting a job, getting care for my kids and then split . I believe that’s the best I can do for now.
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So many have said she should leave and take the kids. But wait! How about if she leaves and DOESN'T take the kids? Okay, he couldn't go to work. But I bet he'd find somebody to keep the kids while he crawls on his hands and knees to Anonymous20 and begs her to come back.
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JeanLouise Mar 8, 2025
This guy may manipulate OP‘s stand by upsetting her littles. When I was a toddler about 1962, my mom left with us and went to my grandparents. When she was at an attorney, he forcefully took us back with him. He worked us into tears and used us to cry and beg mom to come home. She endured decades of abuse to protect us. She never spoke of it. My eldest sister told me years later. She did teach us to never rely on others, to be able to support of yourself. Back then, wives didn’t have the support available today. She finally left once we were grown and it was still hell for her. Long ago I learned monsters are real.
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Have you considered adult daycare for your mother-in-law? Some even provide transportation (for an addtional fee). Then you'd have time to care for your children and do whatever else needs doing during the day. After your husband gets home, you can both tend to her needs. And you can split the weekends with him; you do one day and he does the next? Once she enters long-term care (which she'll probably eventually need), then you won't have to be worried about this,
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Do you have family nearby that you could stay with for two weeks? Then tell him he has two weeks to work out a new plan that does not involve you.

I'm concerned that the OP wouldn't be able to make enough working to cover daycare costs. I remember my daycare for 2 kids costing as much as my mortgage did. But a part time evening job where hubby has to watch mom and all the kids might work.
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Sooo update. MIL is finally leaving Monday. I found a job and well husband still wants to go through the divorce. I believe (what another comment said ) he doesn’t want to be married and 1. He was using me and 2. Well since he dibt need me anymore he wants to divorce.
We had a huge fight with a lot of back and forth yelling ..
I found a job and I start next week. We settle on the days to take care
of the kids and well. I’m looking for an attorney and shop for prices .. I found a sitter too. And some family support.

I believe this is it guys! Please keep me and my kids on your prayers. Mainly my little ones because I feel like my heart is ripping apart because I’m scared for them .

thanks fir the info . 👍
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faithfulbeauty Mar 9, 2025
Sending prayers and wishing you all the best! You and the kids will make it! You are able to focus on them and yourself more.
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One tip for the divorce. Don’t be nice. I was too nice in mine and got totally screwed. Fight for the kids.
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Anonymous20 Mar 9, 2025
yup im
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One divorce tip, DON'T ACCEPT the house in lieu of cash, pension or child support.

Every woman I've ever met regretted taking the house.
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AlvaDeer Mar 9, 2025
I so agree. A mortgage, repairs, insurance. A constant nightmare to negotiate along with small children.
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Thanks for the update. I’m sorry it’s come to this, but the last thing anyone should want is to be with someone who doesn’t want to be them. Your husband has failed in his role. Your children are blessed to have you looking out for them, for had this continued they’d certainly have grown up angry and bitter over the dysfunctionality in their home. You all need peace and healing. Get a strong lawyer who’s well known for advocating for women. Congrats on the new job and know many here wish you the very best
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So, you divorce and leave or he leaves the house with his mother. Then what about Mother-in-law's care? Then he has to get help somewhere else. He should be able to see that either way MIL has to get help other than you. Is the divorce just to punish you for not taking care of HIS mother? Shame on him. What do you say to him when he behaves this way? I like Margaret's suggestion to get half the financial assets into your own account and write the letter to the siblings before filing for divorce. A lawyer can advise you how to go forward, but yes, you need out of this situation, and good for you to realize it.
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Anonymous20 Mar 9, 2025
yes I believe this is a way for him to punish me. And the fact that I told him EVERYTHING and I mean everything that I felt and how his decision up to this point have only affected us negatively.. so his ego is busted and I guess that’s a way for him to feel like he is in control. I came to the realization that I have gave him soo much and that this two years of being at home I’m now empty. And I mean empty in every single way. Yes I have my own flaws and I have changed so much over the years and every day I try to be a better mom and a better wife. But the more I give the more he needs and yeah no.
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I completely understand what you are going thru. I too am going through a similar situation. But I have both MIL and FIL!! The FIL spends all his time thinking of ways to upset me. He steals from me he eats all my food and causes my husband and I to fight on a daily basis. I'm fixing to pack my stuff as we speak and I'm gone. Let me tell you something...he will never let her go until she's gone. And when she is....he will be alone and you will be thriving. He will never change...if he hasn't changed anything for you to keep you he never will. I'm going on 8 years of this crap! And everything has remained the same. And it's mentally physically and emotionally daunting to beg a man to make you happy! If he WANTED to make you happy....he would! I am so sorry you are going through this trial and tribulations! I wish with all my heart that I could tell you it gets better and that he will give you the world. I know how broken you feel. But there HAS to be something better outside of our relationship. Just focus on you for a while and in no time you won't hurt so bad. You will heal from this.
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Anonymous20 Mar 9, 2025
yes is draining to be asking someone to make the right choice for his family. And I do have hope that everything will be for the better .. wish you luck too and may you find your happiness! It’s hard but not impossible.
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Your story is beyond terrible. I am sorry your husband is such a jerk and you have to go through with this divorce. No advice, just want to wish you the best as you navigate this difficult time.

I guess he chose his mama and not his wife and four children. Pathetic man.
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Anonymous20 Mar 10, 2025
Thank you and well it seems
ljke he doesn’t care since I’m still here at home. I’m making peace with it even though I feel this rage in my body. I’m mad and hurt.
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OP please go back and read my suggestions, the very
first post in answer to you. It's about things that don't include immediate divorce, which you have now decided against. Love, Margaret
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