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This is only my second post here. I posted some backstory about my almost 92 year old grandpa before and got some helpful answers. Maybe I just need to know I am not going insane. My grandpa was placed in an ALF back in October.( dementia, cognitive decline,wandering, threatening to hurt himself and others, had a loaded gun etc) Since then he has refused to see me at all and keeps calling DCF and the police with these wild stories. I was recently told by DCF that as long as he adds something new each time they will continue to open new cases. I was also told that with his dementia I can expact this for as long as he lives as he has nothing else to do with his time. I am the ONLY living family member who still speaks to him (when he was talking to me at least)I am literally at the point where I feel like I am being harrassed. Is that crazy? I mean I live in constant anxiety that I am doing something wrong because he tells everyone he meets these wild stories and obviously its working as we are going on the second DCF case and the third police call. I still call the facility every day to ask about him and have dropped off everything they tell me he needs. I am doing all I can and still get the short end of the stick. I almost want to give away my DPOA but I am worried what will happen. Does this ever get better?

I keep thinking "two things can be true" like that adage, it's only paranoia if they're not out to get me. While it sounds extremely wasteful and frustrating to have his calls investigated time after time, in general it makes sense that social services need to check these out -- you can have dementia and be in an abusive situation, you can have memory issues and still report a problem -- it's frightening to all calls for help from everyone with dementia being ignored.
Which is probably not helpful to hear in this particular instance.
The other "two things can be true" is around your connection to him. I'd agree with the advice to legally separate yourself, and this situation seems like it would be exactly appropriate for seeking a court dissolution of your POA. However, you can still decide to maintain whatever level of tie (including none) that works for you now or in the near future.
You could opt to check in with the facility, and either visit him or simply send him postcards or drop off a care package from time to time. Getting him legally supported by the state isn't exactly the same as washing your hands of him, it's simply doing what's best for all in a crappy situation.
Based on what you describe, if it was me, I'd get the POA dissolved, keep careful documentation of the calls/charges to help deal calmly with any more DCF/police activity, and then separately decide whether to maintain any kind of a relationship with or (non-legal/POA) support for grandpa.
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The ALF will probably not take him back. So you tell these people that are evaluating him that you will no longer be his DPOA. (See a lawyer about revoking it) That you will not bring him in your home and care for him. The State needs to take over his care, you can no longer do this. DCF calls you all the time with his false claims. You need, for your mental health, to break ties with him. That you are a grandchild. If there are any children, give these people their phone numbers.

You can walk away from him.
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laura9574 Jan 11, 2025
He has no one else as the remaining family members cut ties years ago. I’m concerned about the home we live in as the mortgage is in his name but the deed is in his and mine. I know that’s not the priority here but my family has lived here for YEARS and done everything from paying all the other bills to keeping up on the maintenance.
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Update: After his ALF called for a Baker Act he was admitted but ONLY under dementia. The nurse told me that he seemed Alert/Oriented X4 that day so she couldn’t talk to me. She said he freaked out for 4 hours so I’m not sure how that aligns with alert and oriented. Apparently he asked to be re evaluated for competency so psych and social services will go through all of this that we’ve just gone through in October. I don’t really know what to do because the THOUGHT of them deeming him competent scares me to death. He is a danger and a very unsafe discharge.
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This does sound terrible. DCF in Massachusetts stands for dept of children and families. Why would they be involved? Why isn't adult protective services involved? They could do a investigation. They would ask you a lot of questions like: It appears that you are living in a house purchased by your grandfather. When did your name get put on the deed? Did he have dementia at the time. Did you buy a portion of his house from him? Are you paying the taxes on the house? If you are living in the house, why aren't you paying the mortgage from your own funds and not his. Are you and your husband living rent free?
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AlvaDeer Jan 8, 2025
Thanks Liz. That's what I thought. Daddy is reporting her as regards her kids and has done it with frequency and there being no case, they still claim they have to respond. So I say just keep a diary, welcome DCF and make them coffee, tea or milk. I would just consider it a que to keep me picking up after the kids!
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I think I would consult with a lawyer. And I would continue not to see your grandfather. Its not fair that APS keeps investigating when he has Dementia and you don't even visit.
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laura9574 Jan 7, 2025
I am getting closer to deciding this might be my best decision. I really hoped that getting him on some meds to calm him down might help but he is bent on trying to hurt me so I have to protect myself and my family.
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I don't understand how DCF and the police can consider you a threat to your grandfather when he lives in AL, is being cared for by others, and you've never actually been to the AL yourself??? I wouldn't be telling them you're feeling harassed, but I would honestly ask them that question. Wouldn't the facility be reporting you if you were doing horrible things? I mean, really! Does a diagnosis of dementia mean nothing to DCF and the police??????

Why is this man not in Memory Care Assisted Living, btw? Perhaps if he was where he belongs, staff would not allow him to call and make false reports. Residents in Memory Care are on a much shorter leash than they are in regular AL, and with good reason. It's crazy to me that these bogus reports keep being investigated while folks get to stroll into stores with backpacks and get to steal up to $900 worth of merchandise w/o getting arrested! Our country is truly out of control, imo.

Best of luck to you.
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AlvaDeer Jan 6, 2025
Hmmm. I think I may have misunderstood. I thought the granddad was calling and reporting her to department of child welfare. Now I don't really know what he is calling, or where he is calling.
But I would think anywhere would tire of this constant reporting from an old man at a care center.

@Laura, can you clue us in as to exactly what this gentleman is calling to report you and what's he reporting you for.
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Laura, consider switching him from Assisted Living to Memory Care. These kinds of behaviors are more common there and the staff will be better able to address them. Also, although it's sad to say, the other residents will be less capable of and interested in helping him to report you.

If you do decide to move him to memory care, check what the policy on phones is in the units you're considering. Legally, some phones need to be available for calling 911 for medical emergencies and other essential situations. But while some facilities have them right out in the open, others have them in discreet locations so that residents don't see them to be tempted or triggered by them. Or all outgoing calls might go through a receptionist who can screen whether the call is appropriate.

Have you talked with the facility staff about this? Procedure vary in different states and localities, but the often the staff can work with police to flag that a resident has dementia and that calls from the person need to be evaluated with that in mind.

Do you have statements from one or more of his doctors that he has dementia and lacks competence? Those can also help protect you if they are filed with the police and DCF.

Also, talk with his doctor(s) and the facility medical staff about medications that can calm him and decrease his agitation.

I wish you well. It's so kind and loving of you to do this for your grandfather and I'm very sorry that it is spoiling your lifetime of good memories with him. If he were himself he would not be putting you through this.
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laura9574 Jan 7, 2025
I actually spoke to the care coordinator last night and she said that he is just insufferable. She told me he never has anything positive or nice to say and has told the police and DCF that they are not taking care of him and holding him hostage. She said she specifically told the police that he is like that and they told her that they HAVE to investigate any claims made to be sure they are unfounded. I do not understand why resources are being spent on this and it is literally driving me AND them crazy. I do have documentation that states he has dementia from 2 different hospitals but that doesnt seem to get me anywhere.
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It will only get better when his brain dies enough that he can no longer call and report you. Or when you take away his phone.

Good luck.
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laura9574 Jan 6, 2025
He doesnt have a phone. I presume he is using the community phones at the ALF or having other people call for him. He is almost 92 and has lived much longer than any of us expected considering all his health issues.
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You’ve done an admirable job getting your grandpa the help and safety he needed. Remember this even though he can’t acknowledge it. It now comes to you deciding if you can continue in your role and tune out what’s come to feel like harassment to you. This will involve a mental and emotional shift to accepting he’s no longer the grandpa you had and viewing him as just a human in need of care. Otherwise you resign POA and grandpa becomes a ward of the state with an appointed guardian. There is no wrong choice, there is only doing what you feel is best for you. I’m sorry for your pain in this, dementia comes with many losses, some of them personally hard. I wish you peace
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laura9574 Jan 6, 2025
thanks so much for your kind words. I sometimes feel like all I get these days is what I am NOT doing right. I really hate to abandon him but he is certainly not the grandpa I grew up with. (Although the rest of the family have already washed thier hands of him)
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Take away his phone. Get him diagnosed and have his doc give him meds for his agitation.

Or, resign your PoA and stop having any contact with him (you cannot "give it away" -- he has to get a court-assigned legal guardian, which may be a good solution in all of this).

If you stop going to the facility, then the CCTV will show that you were never on the property to do what he's claiming.
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laura9574 Jan 6, 2025
I have never actually been to the facility. He claims all of this from BEFORE he went in and makes up things he THINKS are happening now that he is gone. I am guessing it is other residents of the facility that are calling for him or someone tipped me off that it might have been the wheelchair tramsport person. He is very convincing as he has been doing this to people his whole life. Luckily (or maybe not) I was his favorite and he always treated me good until these last few years.
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You can only resign POA through attorney or with help of the court now that grandfather has a dementia. That makes it more difficult.
I would certainly do so with this action he is taking.
Otherwise know that whatever case is opened will soon close when they realize the number of times he is doing this.
To be honest I think I would get that resignation through the court, call APS and get him made a ward of the state, and resign having anything to do with him.
Afraid his dementia has taken a turn I wouldn't be willing to live with.
He isn't really your grandfather now as you know him.
This is sadly sometimes the way of things with dementia.
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laura9574 Jan 6, 2025
You are always someone I hope gives me advice as I see such wisdom in your responses. I am terrified to let go and terrified to hold on. I just keep waiting anxiously about what I have to defend myself on next.
I have considered letting him be a warden of the state but I feel enourmous guilt as he has (in the past) always been there for me. I guess I have a lot to consider.
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