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My 91 year old grandfather decided he should sell his home 5 years ago and asked if my husband and I would be willing to move if he purchased a house large enough for our family. I agreed since I am all he has left ( he has burnt bridges with all other family members due to EXTREME narcissistic personality disorder ) He bought the house and added my name to the deed. Over the last 5 years he has declined cognitively and has been diagnosed with dementia. Recently he has started threatening us and his expectations have become unrealistic. He throws huge tantrums when we make plans that don’t include him and has alienated us from friends and family. We do everything besides pay the mortgage. We buy all the food, cook a hot meal for him every day, take him everywhere he needs to go. I changed my schedule at work so that I can be off whenever he has appointments or needs to go places. He cashed out a small life insurance policy and gave me the money as a gift since I am ‘ all he has’ I used it to buy stuff for the house and pay for a surgery I required. His most recent tantrum had him going to the neighbors to say that we haven’t fed him in 5 days and that I stole money from him. They know his mental state and called me. He ended up demanding to go to the hospital where he continued these claims. Fortunately they are aware of his history and after a psych evaluation and social services evaluation was deemed unable to return home. He was placed in an ALF but is now angrier as he assumes I am responsible for this. He has told everyone terrible lies about me and my husband and even managed to get DCF involved. The facility is aware the claims are unfounded but I am just in shock about all of this. Regardless of how terrible our lives have become I do love him and hate that he is so aggressive and mean now. I’m exhausted and have been put on meds for anxiety, depression and high blood pressure. I’m starting to feel like I’m the crazy one. I do have a durable power of attorney which includes finances and medical decisions but I feel like nothing is going to make this feel right. Guess I needed to vent and maybe see if I’m not alone,

He has, sadly for him, gifted you a lot, and this is going to mean that a 5 year lookback, should he require help affording LTC placement, will show this gifting and disqualify him from receiving any govermental assistance.
This is not something I would ever consider doing, nor should he have. But now it is done and this is quite a bad tangle, because at this point I think you are stuck solid in providing care for another 5 years until lookback can be done without disqualifying him.

I think it is time to see an attorney to see what the options are if you require that he be in long term care. You are currently painted into a corner; I cannot imagine how best to proceed. So off to an attorney with your hubby and your grandfather to see what the options are. Good luck.
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laura9574 Oct 29, 2024
He was placed in a self pay facility as he can afford it. Money is not an issue as far as that goes. The issue with money is that he gets angry if you don’t take what he offers but then later he makes false claims about the circumstances.
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I see nothing where you mention grandpa can't afford Assisted Living and needs Medicaid? Just that he's seriously angry and blaming you for his old age and infirmity.

As POA for him, you can keep grandpa in AL even if he demands to come home. As financial POA, you can pay the home mortgage as well. Do speak with a Certified Elder Care attorney with any questions or concerns you have about financial issues.


Feel free to vent here anytime. As ugly as he's being, try to remember it's the dementia talking and accusing you, not grandpa himself. He's lost to the disease now, sadly. You're definitely not alone in all this. I had a mother with dementia who said very cruel and hurtful things to me as well, so I cut down the time I spent visiting with her in Memory Care Assisted Living. Hopefully, some meds will calm grandpa down soon and you'll start to feel better yourself.

Dementia is a no win situation for all concerned, you, grandpa, your family, everyone. You just do the best you can w/o letting his issues ruin your life any further. He's where he needs to be right now.

Wishing you the best of luck with a difficult situation.
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laura9574 Oct 29, 2024
He was placed in a self pay facility that he can definitely afford. It’s very nice. The issue for me, I guess, is coming to terms with the fact that he is now making false accusations and has completely turned on me. All the other family members say I should have expected this but I never hoped he would get like this.
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What is it about his "EXTREME narcissistic personality disorder" that you love so much? I'm not trying to provoke you but I find those two statements mismatched. We don't get to choose our family members but we do get to choose how much or little we interact with them. I think you need to back away from visiting or talking to him for a while in order to get your own mental and emotional (and physical) health back on track. People who transition into facilities need time to adjust and often it is recommended to family to stay away for about 2 weeks to allow this to happen.

Is he on any meds for his anger/depression/aggression? If not, why not? It would be merciful to have his doctor prescribe something since people suffering from dementia are literally no longer able to bring selves to a place of understanding and contentment.

It may help you to educate yourself about dementia so that you won't be caught of guard as he continues to change. I learned a lot from Teepa Snow videos on YouTube. It also teaches how strategies for redirecting and distracting negative or volitile discussions, among other things. I wish you peace in your heart on this journey.
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He burnt bridges with most everyone, a big sign for you. Now there’s dementia, he cannot be held responsible for his anger, comments, and meanness. It would be a kindness for him to receive medication to help calm his outbursts, they most likely are hard on him as well. Limit the time you listen to his tirades, decide not to let his comments to others get to you, and make the best decisions you can for his ongoing care. He’s receiving the care he needs, now care for your needs before the health consequences for all of this become too much for you
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The issue here is not so much how GF is behaving, as how you are dealing with it. It’s clearly very upsetting, and you are very upset. It’s new for you, but not for many other posters. I’d suggest the following:

1) Document ALL the financial arrangements between you and GF, with dates and supporting evidence. Keep a file on line with baack-up, and a paper file with print-out and other documents somewhere safe. While at present GF can pay for care and Medicaid is not an issue, but illness injury operations and general age care can be very expensive and go on for a very long time. You never know when funding may be needed, or when GF’s allegations may be believed and investigations made. If GF has other relatives (even on-line ‘friends’) who could hope to inherit, questions can be raised even after death. Clearly there is a lot of money involved in this. Get your ducks in line NOW.

2) Make sure you have all the appropriate documentation - POA etc.

3) Get a psych analysis for GF, focused on his allegations – does he believe them himself and why, does he have some other motive and what is it, what is going on with ‘control’ for him. It can look like the ‘investigation’ he actually wants. Get it in writing and keep it. It may be helpful, if something happens which is investigated, and it almost certainly will be helpful for YOU.

4) See a good counselor about controlling your upset feelings. You are shocked, it’s ingratitude because you have done so much, you are feeling betrayed and vulnerable etc etc. I’d go now, just once or a couple of times. Then break off while you concentrate on points 1) 2) and 3), then go back enough to deal with it again. 1) 2) and 3) in themselves should help you feel more on top of things, 4) should help you put it all to bed.

Good luck! Best wishes, Margaret
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Oh my goodness this broke my heart as I am literally living this sentence myself with my own mother , it’s been over 8 years now, she’s had major mental cognitive symptoms, and there is major trauma on my end and I know that’s sounds selfish however she has shown me thru actions and words that she didn’t care for me. Blamed me for leaving with my daddy, when I was 9 , only because she choose the one hurting me, as a young girl and her choosing her son. With proof, now he barely has anything left to do with her , and I stood up and began caring for her, now everything is in my shoulders and my soon to be husband who’s a angel to put up with this, but we’re trying the hardest we can, got a bigger home for her convenience, then all the safety precautions we have to have , ramp , indoor space bars, so much the list goes on and on, she is saying after all I’ve done for you? Like my word; if I truly said what I felt it wouldn’t t be forgiven and I’d never get over my guilt. I actually feel like this is all my fault and it’s my responsibility to care for her , she’s now relying on me for absolutely everything, emotionally, mentally , friendship, almost like I am her spouse it’s really just strange because I’ve tried to take her to the aging place for senior citizens for her to have a community with people who are her age and have her issues , she could identify with them than just a room , isolation, relying on my fiancee and expected to entertain her at all times. Were so financially screwed and had a nice little savings we’d worked on for years and lost it all due her needing a emergency surgery I later found out that it was her choice to do that on our planned wedding date and honeymoon beginning. She’s doing things i catch and so now I know , she’s been putting me thru all this stress because she wanted me to sit in chair with her the rest of her and not have one of my own, she’s took my church , she run off friends and family don’t have anything to do with her as I now don’t blame them . She lies and cause strife between what’s left if the half family and then says idk why yall can’t get along. Are you flipping joking me right now ? All these years I never knew how much hate she had for me and she was determined to take out my daddy, unfortunately may he rest in peace had to get out, I now can truly understand why he had to leave this life and I no longer blame myself for anything she claims as I was 8 years of age . Not a adult, The only reason I can’t let her go anywhere is because I’m scared of losing the friendship we once had until I wanted to be happy with someone and she has attempted everything to break us up ps, we researched a lot of things and that’s other reason we for know what to do? It is messing me up emotionally, spiritually first and foremost, but mentally as she points out a new flaw each day, and she makes up lies about me and I’ve got a lot of proof of that!!! So idk what the heck to do , do I say okay yall been hiding behind the I got a family things for too long , I want to start one and she is stressing me so badly I lost 15 lbs in less than a week. God help us all as I feel you and my heart and prayers truly go out to anyone dealing with this , also we now have dept adult aging telling us what we do and don’t do lie we suppose to poop money ! What do ya do ? I had to bye it to God as my next step will only be to have her removed by family or home . I’m sorry for you going thru this
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Daughterof1930 Oct 30, 2024
I truly cannot fathom what a number your mother has done on you to con you into caring for her, completely to your own detriment. There’s zero for you to feel guilt about in this. Please seek therapy to better understand your need to walk away and have your own life before the consequences to your health and future are too great. I wish you courage to change this deeply unhealthy dynamic
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Aha, I see now. He is in care and angry about it.
He should join the crowd. Almost no one likes being in care, but if we live long enough it is where we go and where we belong.

He may never be happy. Old age (I guarantee you as I am 82_) isn't full of a whole lot of happiness. It is quite an achy time where we lose our systems one at a time, eventually even our own minds. So don't feel you are responsible for his happiness. You are only responsible for being a loving OR respectful granddaughter. And he needs to learn that he will see you more when his behavior is better, and less when it is not.

Old age should not be an excuse for abuse.
Don't allow him to go there.
You didn't cause age and infirmity and you can't fix it.
You have a right to a life. Please do choose to live it. Because if you choose to placate Grandpa NO ONE will be the happier for it, and that I guarantee.

The very best of luck to you.
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Beethoven13 Oct 29, 2024
Agree with all. I think a particular gem here is we teach people how to treat us. Reinforce good behavior. He will see you more when his behavior is better. If he’s negative and accusing and bullying and blaming. Don’t react. Tell him you didn’t cause his old age and you have to live your life and you are here to support him. That’s it. If he’s obnoxious. Don’t go see him for a few weeks. This is the stuff we never learned. It’s not selfish. It’s self protection. Don’t expect support from family who who have everything to gain by you remaining overly giving and available. It’s hard, but learn to discern who really has your best interests at heart.
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All of the above. We put our own lives on the line for our loved ones and this is the payback. Sure, it is the dementia talking, but I'm a firm believer that the personality has a hand in it as well. If your grandfather managed to alienate people, there is a reason behind it. It sounds like he wasn't a nice man or else people would come around him to help.

The making up lies is a narcissistic trait and getting everyone to turn against you. It's called a smear campaign.

The more I read about this type of behavior, the more I'm seeing that people like these were pretty bad to begin with.

I would work on detaching myself emotionally from grandaddy and his lies. Dementia or no dementia, this hurts. Also, we get financially all wrapped up in their messes making it difficult to break free from their control. My dad tried this crap with me, but luckily I had supportive people to give me a firm talking to. Never accept anything from a narcissist. These people give you something expecting some sort of lifetime payback.

Giving you that insurance money was a way to hold you for ransom making you unable to get away from him. Putting your name on the title was a way to keep you tied to his assets. Some people would look at this as exploiting an elderly person. He gave you this as a gift. I'm quite sure you were not aware what was happening at the time and how it would play out.

Hopefully, you will come away unscathed.

Counseling may help at this point.
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Lashing out at the only family that pays attention to them is common . He’s angry that he has to live there . He’s one of many . The narcissism just makes it worse . I know , I had a similar mother . See a good counselor to help with your feelings .

Next time he’s mean , tell him “ It’s not my fault you are old and have to live here. I can’t fix old.”

Be glad he can afford a facility and that you aren’t stuck with him . You dodged a bullet .

He may remain miserable , don’t expect him to be happy . You are not responsible for his happiness .
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Beethoven13 Oct 29, 2024
i agree with everything. Please don’t exhaust yourself further trying to make him happy. Be grateful he’s taken care of and you can visit. Take care of yourself. If you don’t, no one else will.
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You have become his Maleficent - the source of everything evil in his poor, demented mind. Maybe it’s time for a vacation.

Tell the staff at his ALF that you are going to be taking a 1 month vacation from grandpa. You’ll be available to them by phone for emergencies (but not to him). Take that month to see a lawyer and a counselor. Your wounds need some time to heal.

After grandpa doesn’t see your horns for a month and you don’t see his, you can give him another shot if you feel like it. By then you may feel strong enough to turn right back around and walk out if he says something mean.
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Seeing all these similar responses has definitely helped me feel better about the situation. I spoke to DCF and the police today and was told that there is no case as far as they can see. When they spoke to him he was so back and forth in the stories he told it was obvious that he was just making things up.
I am going to take the advice and step back. I have a wonderful husband, three kids and 2 small grandchildren I need to focus on instead of all the daily drama with him.
thanks so much to everyone for the responses. This has been a hard time but I am glad I found this site!
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Laura, I was very glad to see your response, and that you are not so worried.Look after yourself and the people you love who REALLY need you to care.

Do have a look at the steps I suggested, and think about taking them - even if you leave it for a while. This stuff could always come up again in different ways - where there’s money, there are often people who would love to get some of it. Elders who decide to blame the closest person, are often targets for complete strangers.
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No-your Not alone. Place yourself in God's hands & Try to quit the drugs. I mean-was or is He really worth all That ? Let the Facility do their job , and you do yours -that is taking care of yourself , and your own husband.
Until you regain your own sense of control, particularly over your Own life-then, your right-"Nothing is going to make this feel right". Not much else will feel right, either. Only YOU can "make it right." Start by appreciating the Good in your life, everyday, until the Good overcomes the Bad. You can't Fix your gr.father, or expect changes in him at his age and in his condition. The new facility may not Fix him either, but mainly at least keep him comfortable over this challenging time in his life. Take some Time to yourself and away from your gr. father. The facility may get him to calm down some, then it may be a better time to visit with him with the intention to go and share only the Good times over family albums, old stories, or sharing a favorite snack or meal together. Try not to take his accusations personally -as you said -most everyone knows the Truth.
Best over it and take care of Yourself !
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laura9574 Oct 30, 2024
When I saw ‘quit the drugs’ I was confused! I am definitely taking the medications provided by my medical doctor as a temporary help to get me through the situation. I do not plan to continue the anxiety and depression meds until we get through the worst of it. Day by day is my plan until things calm down.
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Quit the drugs? I totally missed that.
I never understood, before my chemo year, how much my ability to cope and my capacity to feel happiness or appreciate beauty in any form depended on the balance of chemicals in my brain. For a solid year my world was flat and grey and hopeless and I lost even the desire to put one foot in front of the other.

You won’t catch me being critical of medically supervised chemical balancing - I wish I had been offered something when I was living in my La Brea tar pit.
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