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Tonight, my dad is once again wanting to go to the hospital and he just got out and is doing fine. He called me and said his stomach is killing him. I know that he has eaten some things he should not have. Long story short, the nurse said he has been fine all day. He said he wanted me to approve for him to go. I told him i was leaving it up to him and he said no its up to you and I said no, it is not. Then he said if he dies, its on me. I know there are probably others who have heard these words and I know some is due to dementia. How do you cope with this?? Lately it has been a crisis every week!

If he dies, now or when it happens as it will for us all, it’s because it is his time to leave this earth. It’s never going to be “on you” Please cope by having the firm knowledge that as a mere human, you don’t control any of this. I wish you peace
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@Daughter1930,
You are exactly right! But how do you say something like to your own flesh and blood??? Just pray that I can let this go.
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Daughterof1930 Dec 2, 2024
I hope you can as well. The hurtful things are hard sometimes, even when we know the nonsensical places they may come from. Keep reminding yourself, you’ve insured he’s safe and cared for, no one could ask for or expect more
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Mother said that sort of thing once in a while. This was before she had dementia - but she did have Borderline Personality Disorder. I knew it was due to her problem, amd not my fault. It's not pleasant to hear but you have to detach from what they say and recognize they are words from a brain that is not working right. Build up your own confidence in who you are. There is no understanding the why or how when someone's brain is not working right. Don't waste time trying to figure it out. You can't! (((((hugs)))) I know it isn't easy.
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faithfulbeauty Dec 2, 2024
@golden23,
It is definitely not easy and you are right, There is no point in trying to figure it out.
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We really can have NO idea of what is happening here.
I am very sorry.
You know your father.
You know the history and the progression through care.
You know how your dad reacts and you know the care facility he is at.

We could not conceivably guess at what is happening here. But a "subjective" report of pain is a report of pain. No one should negate it without a thorough exam unless there is a long history of subjective reporting that is dramatic, due to mental disability, and etc. And THAT is up to the MDs in this case to judge, not a Forum of strangers.
Sorry, and surely do wish you the best.
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faithfulbeauty Dec 2, 2024
I understand but I was just looking for support on how to cope with endless crises. When he complains, they always check him out. Sorry, I was not asking anyone to judge or try to figure out what was wrong with him.
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Trust the nurse.

It's attention-seeking behavior. Remember the story about the boy who cried "wolf".

It will be on him.

Everything about dementia is hard. His brain is broken so he can't control his behavior and neither can you. The only thing that can change is you not reacting to his every drama.

There's no fix for this. Trust the nurse's opinion to guide your decisions. This is when you throw up your hands and say "It is what it is".
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faithfulbeauty Dec 2, 2024
@Geaton777,
He has also started calling me during my work hours. He never did this before. I know he gets the days and times confused.
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Faithfulbeauty, for your mental health, you really have to pull away from dad, I know your trying to do the best you can do, but what you are doing to yourself just isn't fair to you.

Visit your dad once a week, if you must, let the people get paid to handle dad, do there job.

Detach your feelings, pretend in your head your dad is your uncle. I am so different from my family, I sometimes pretend I must of been switched at birth.

Read up on codependency, read Melody Beattys book, Codependency No More. It will teach you to take better care of yourself.

I'm so sorry you had to hear those words.
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@Anxietynancy,
It has really affected my mental health. I often have trouble concentrating. I know that I have to let this go because if not, I will also need care.
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So quit answering your phone when your dad calls, and let his calls go to voicemail(especially when you're at work)and then at the end of the day you can choose to listen to them or not.
I'm sure the folks at his facility will notify you if and when there is something actually wrong with your dad, so rest in the knowledge of that, and let the rest roll of your back.
You have to remember that your dads brain is permanently broken, and that yes one day he will die, but not because of anything that you did or didn't do, but because it was his time.
So take a deep breath and try and enjoy whatever time you may have left with him, and try not to make mountains out of molehills.
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faithfulbeauty Dec 3, 2024
@funkygrandma59,
That is what I keep telling myself... That they will notify me if something is wrong. His brain has certainly changed. It is very hard seeing him like this.
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Oh, Faithful. Same old same old, isn't it.
Just stick to that. Tell Dad that it is up to him. He's a grownup now.
If he says "It's on YOU if I die" tell him "Well, hon, I will just have to try to live with that, then, won't I".
Your dad plays you.
Time to have some fun playing him back.
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faithfulbeauty Dec 3, 2024
@AlvaDeer,
It is exhausting.
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The “ It will be on you “.

Loooooong before my mother got dementia she said these words to me as a child , threatening to jump out a second story window , or to take a handful of pills . Making me cry and beg that she wouldn’t .

Then one day when I was home for the summer from college , she threatened again with a handful of pills.
I knew she wouldn’t take them , and quite frankly I finally realized that even if she did, that it would NOT be on me .
( Mom perpetrated this drama because the neighbors might see me leave the house with a suitcase with my fiancé to go on a trip . This was her way to try to stop me from going on the trip and spare her perceived embarrassment with neighbors .)

I told her “ Go ahead “ and I even pushed her handful of pills closer to her mouth . Guess what ?? She didn’t take them and never ever threatened that again . She also as in the past , ordered me not to tell my father ( that she pulled this threat on me ).

Tell Dad that you are not the nurse .
If he wants to go to the hospital he has to tell the nurse .

I bet you he doesn’t tell the nurse . And whether he goes to the hospital or not , it’s on him.
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Anxietynacy Dec 4, 2024
Oh my waytomisery, I think are mothers were sisters.
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Parent: “I want to die!”
Me: “Not on my watch.”
It worked. He didn’t….on that day, anyway.
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faithful - your dad is jerking your chain and getting something (enjoyment, sense of power?) out if it. It's a game that takes two to play and you are playing it with him. . If you stop playing, the game will end.

I only saw mother a few times a year. (distance caregiver) I trusted that the nurses would call me when something went wrong or more care was needed. They did. Meanwhile I got on with my life. I did not center my life around her unhealthy behaviour.

I agree that Melody Beattie's writings on Codependency would be helpful to you.
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faithfulbeauty Dec 4, 2024
@Golden23,
It is going to end because I'm tired. Life is too short to be constantly stressed.
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Faithfulbeauty, at least your dad's safe, my mom is aging at home. My worry and anxiety is creeping up about mom being home alone. The fear of her falling, and laying in a puddle of broken bones suffering is often in the back of my head ,much more so as of lately. Holidays and winter are really hard on her.

I kinda feel like you have it easier in that sence. You also have power, where I have none, my brother has it all, but just doesn't care.

Waytomisery has been to he// and back with so many with dementia in her family.

Many of us struggle daily, some full time caregivers here. Which I myself have no clue how they are holding it together.

Turn this around and think about the positives you have in life. All you really have to do honestly is change your number, not that you would but some of us are not that lucky to have what you have.
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faithfulbeauty Dec 4, 2024
@Anxietynacy,
I was my fathers caregiver for over 20 years so I feel your pain. This only ended about 6 months ago. I now that I now have it easier but it was not always that way. I sympathize with anyone who is a caregiver because it is HARD. I do have power but he does not mind reminding me that he is in his right mind and can still make decisions. I hope the situation with your mom improves because I know what the constant fear feels like.
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faithful - I'm going to add something I want you to think about.

Your dad is getting something out of this game, but so are you.

You have the power to stop this game.

What are you are getting out of playing this game? You are not helpless here.
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faithfulbeauty Dec 4, 2024
@golden23,
I'm not getting anything out of it but I see your point. I'm just so use to letting him control me. I know I can and need to put a stop to it because it is affecting me mentally. But this has gone on since I was a child. I know that I'm an adult now but it just part of being brought up the way I was.
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I'm so sorry. My dad said this to me a few years ago, although he's not the one with dementia, it's my mom, he told me I'd be responsible for her death. Parents can be awful, I think they age and get frightened and speak so often from a place of fear and confusion. I'm not sure how old you are, but I always feel like my parents have no idea about wellbeing or mental health. They have never understood the concept of standing back and analyzing a situation instead of just speaking their "feelings" and dealing with the emotional fallout, or not in most cases. My therapist has given me a little trick that works well for me, as I'm a very visual person. In my head I picture a giant cupboard filled with empty jars. When I'm in a situation where I"m being talked down to by a parent or they are ranting, I go to the cupboard, get a jar, unscrew the top and put all the "crap" they are throwing my way inside, screw on the lid, shut the door and walk away. I'm able to still stand in front of them or be on the phone and "listen" but not be affected. We have to keep ourselves straight during these times, we can't go down with the ship. Again, I"m sorry this has happened to you, take care out there.
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You need to back away from him. Don't call as much. I had to do this with my momma and the rest of my family because it was affecting my health and life. Blood pressure was through the roof and I was miserable. I use to call momma about three times a week. Don't now. I talked to the nurse and momma has been on anixety meds and I have a therapist that comes and talks to her every two weeks. She can dump on her. I call about once every 10 to 14 days. I have very little to do with my siblings, neice and sister in law. Don't trust them. At one time we were estranged for five years. We have been getting together at christmas for dinner with momma but that is it for the last two years. I noticed a big difference with momma when I quit calling and going over there as much. All she did was dump all over me of everybodys problems and how unhappy she is in assisted living. Told me I have taken everything away from her. My neice has since reached out to me and has apolized for how things are but I still have my guard up because of past behavior. Momma is doing ok. More medical problems but she is 90.
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@akababy7,
I have cut back on calling him. I also have High Blood Pressure. There are also very few people I trust. I do not trust some of his friends and a family member. I think they put ideas in his head about coming home and they there is no respect for me at all. Sometimes I think he has talked against me as well. This is the reason some of his friends and family members have an attitude against me.
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When my mom starts acting like that I just tell if she’s really not feeling good I’ll take her to the ER or to her doctor. Usually she quits being like that.
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