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I'll spare the details, suffice it to say I feel sorry for the person that has to clean up the bathroom. He walks from the restroom covered in "stuff" to the car (restaurant and golf club house are the two most recent). He gets angry at me for gagging but I have to drive home with the windows open, leaning over as close as possible to the window. I do not handle things that come out of the body (except for blood for some reason).
I have carried a blanket in the car for years, so I cover the seat with that that with the command to him to not touch anything. Get home and I have to deal with the blanket, the car, and of course his clothes, while he showers, all the while I'm gagging. (Tried the Vicks under the nose, didn't help.)
He came home today and declared how sick he is, he must have covid. Sigh. Nope, he's not sick, he's incontinent and won't admit it. At home he makes it to the bathroom but in public, he explodes when he gets to the toilet. At least he gets that far (so no need for incontinence underwear), I should be thankful that he isn't actually going in his pants (although maybe this is a precursor to that?).
How do I handle this? I have no desire to ever go in a restaurant with him again. We have some have-to-do trips coming up (still dealing with dad's estate and house) and I dread the thought of having to hit all his favorite restaurants and staying in a hotel where clean up won't be easy.
I have suggested a diet change to eliminate flour and he won't hear of it. He wants his doughnuts, pizza, and subs. I hope to be able to bring this up with his PCP next week, but that will be difficult.
So, anyone have the voice of experience and can suggest something I am overlooking?

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GG. It's one thing to put up with the abuse yourself in your own home, That's your choice.

When others are involved - a possible car or golf cart accident, or exposing others to the hazards of his blowouts - you are making choices that can very negatively affect others. It's not the same ball game.
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I don’t want to speak for GG, the OP, but from I understand of her history with hubby, he’s long, probably always, been demanding and controlling. His illness has only exacerbated the situation. She is living with the hope that his illness will take him and resolve the matter. We can all judge her, but none of us have lived it, or fully know her life and reasons for her decisions.
GG, I hope you’ll speak to your adult children, let them know you’re at your breaking point, if that’s where it now is, and make a plan with them to separate yourself from this awful life. If you’re not ready, I still wish you courage and peace
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graygrammie Aug 11, 2024
Daughterof1930, thank you for "getting it."
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No one is judging Grammie— it’s friendship. Grammie is the proverbial frog in the pot of water that was once cool, then lukewarm, then warm, then simmering etc.

Grammie has lost sight of what is ok and what is not ok. This hasn’t happened only twice. It has happened twice in a month.

As her friends, we are required to tell her the truth which is, no more taking him out in public. Can you all imagine what her car smells like? She likely got used to the smell and doesn’t smell it anymore.

She is also 100% wrong in allowing him to continue to drive and I will die on this hill. This is non negotiable.
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cover9339 Aug 12, 2024
This reason could be why she continues to let him drive.
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If he expects to leave the house, he does it in disposable underwear or he doesn't go. And if he is capable, next mess let him clean up.
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Yes, this is definitely a precursor to that. If you wait till the man has an accident in public, like my mother did, then it's a day late and a dollar short for Depends.

Good luck trying to convince HIM Depends are a necessity, however. I can't imagine him getting angry at you for gagging! I'd never step out in public again with this man, if it were me.

I think it's time for you to give dh a wake up call now. You've heard all about what he "won't hear of"......have you told HIM what YOU won't tolerate?
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Gray Grammie, your posts sound as though you are an abused wife. “If only I could leave him home. He won't stay home because he is so afraid of missing out on something or he is convinced I'm doing something behind his back”. You are ALLOWED to go out without him. Take the car keys, walk out and drive off – or call a taxi and get in. You have RIGHTS.

It sounds as though you have more problems in yourself than in his incontinence. Is there some way that you could get some counseling? On the phone to start with, perhaps. You should NOT be letting this man control you.
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sp196902 Aug 11, 2024
Yes she is an abused wife. Her husband wouldnt even let her visit her father by herself.
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Graygrammie, I worry more about your future, as the dementia gets worse his anger may also. So please prepare for the future also.
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Southernwaver Aug 13, 2024
And we all know people like him don’t die quickly or easily. They are too mean and those mean and spiteful juices keep them going.

I suspect Grammie is going to be dealing with him for a lot longer than she expects. This man doesn’t sound like he is about to die anytime soon,.
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Clearly he went in his pants because he walked out of the bathroom covered in 💩 and you had to clean the car, etc. Does he not know how to wipe or do yiu have to do that too? The fact that he wasn't embarrassed speaks volumes. I think you are in denial. It's time to stop allowing him to dictate what you will have to put up with and clean up. No more restaurants, no traveling. He needs to stay home while you handle things.
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cover9339 Aug 10, 2024
He's probably not embarrassed because he feels it is nature's call. Mess in his pants, maybe as soon as the toilet was in view the brain was thinking "time to go" and relaxed the muscles before he could get his pants down and sit on the toilet.
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You state he's 'not ready' for incontinence briefs and I think that's a bit of a disconnect with your thinking.

Any time you go ANYWHERE your Dh might have a blowout he should be wearing incontinence briefs. That should be a non- negotiable. The time for pandering to his 'wants' at the health consideration has passed.

The LAST TIME we took my FIL to lunch, he had a bowel blowout. It was all over the bench of the restaurant. I looked at FIL and he had this horribly embarrassed guilty look on his face. OF course, the smell hit immediately. I told DH to take his dad to the car and wait for me. (He did so, but did not put down the towels I carried for just this kind of event.)

I quietly got the oldest, most compassionate looking waitress and beckoned her over to the table, explained what had happened and asked for cleaning supplies. LUCKILY, we were seated at the back of the place and there were no clients near us. I was the 'poor soul' who had to clean up. I got some gloves from the waitress and while SHE was willing to help--I didn't let her. I cleaned and then disinfected the spot and threw all the towels away that I had used.

It was beyond horrible and to this day, I don't like to even think about it. I tipped the waitress $50 and left. Making sure the spot he's fouled was as clean as I could get it.

FIL was hugely embarrassed, and I kind of lit in to him. I told him he was going to start wearing depends whether he wanted to or not, I was so tired of taking him places and having to leave b/c he got 'sick'.

Worse still, he insisted on wearing thong style underwear. It was of no use as a 'barrier'. Even plain 'tidey whities' would have helped. A thong is a joke.

My DH sat in silence and later got angry with me for shaming his dad. I told him from now on, HE got to clean up all the accidents.

We so often wait until we're at critical mass before we deal with a problem.

And I hope you let the restaurant know what had happened! This is a serious health issue--and you left it for someone else to find and clean? Yuck.
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Anxietynacy Aug 11, 2024
I'm sure she knows it was wrong, to leave it. I don't believe in judging people that come to us after a mistake that they made and are being honest about that mistake.
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I feel your pain. My husband just turned 66 in early July 2024. He went to the ER with a GI bleed right before his birthday. He had a major stroke in the Spring of 2022. I am 61 so I still have to work; I have a busy job, working from home. So I spend my lunch hour every week day getting him up, washed off, coffee, breakfast, throw the bed clothes into the washer and rush back to work. I'm ready to die. If it weren't for leaving my son, I'd pray for God to take me. In my opinion, caregivers suffer just as much as the patients...if not more. For YEARS, all my husband cared about was partying with his brother. He hasn't been an abusive husband; just the type who has never let me in. He doesn't want to discuss any serious topics; always liked making the cashiers laugh at the grocery store. I'm sure you can imagine; Mr. Charming. I'm shaking my head because I could write a novel. Now he's coming home in 2 days and I'm being honest when I say, I'm not looking forward to it.
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graygrammie Aug 12, 2024
Oh, Reba, I feel you! My guy is Mr. Charming to everyone as well. I think to myself, "If you only knew."
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