My mom's Alz got really bad when she broke her hip in 2016. We have been caring for her at home since then. After an ER trip in Oct for a possible impacted bowel, she was diagnosed her with what her dr said may or may not be colon cancer. My dad also has poor health but has always balked at hiring an agency due to them being in his home. And he and mom promised each other years before that they would not put the other in a nursing home. So here we are.
He has help come in during week days but weekends and most evening are on me. I am running on empty, and her condition is fast deteriorating. Fights going to the bathroom, is very shaky and this past week has has to use the wheelchair, spits her food out, won’t drink her water, won’t sleep at night. We use Melatonin at times but she either sleeps until The next afternoon or else it has no effect at all. I’m sorry, I know this is just basic info. But I’m not sure what to do. I’m afraid for dad for what ever decision he has to decide. I am looking for advice from someone who has been there before. Oh, and he is self pay so whatever happens he will be paying out of pocket. Any advice on that would be welcome also. They are not wealthy, but was always careful with their money. Our local Agency in Aging has not been very helpful imo. I finally told him last eve that we can’t keep doing this and he agreed.
Is your mother or your father starting chemo pills in Jan? If it's mom, I'd like to say something. We treated my mthr's colon cancer with surgery and she refused the chemo. She was about stage 5c Alzheimer's at the time. Had we realized what a long, dreadful journey this dementia would be for her, we could have allowed her to slip away peacefully in her sleep. Her worse pain from her tumors was behind her and her low hemoglobin meant that she was just days from slipping away. We pumped her back up with transfusions and surgery, and she's been in memory care another 7.5 years so far. It was just a year before she did not know who we were at all.
The book, "Being Mortal" by Atul Gwande looks at the end of life and the issues and consequences surrounding our interventions. He's a research doc at a big Boston hospital and my DIL almost took a job helping him (but decided to stay with the baby instead!). I am greatly thankful for his insight and wish I'd known all this before we started on this journey.
I am thankful that mthr refused chemo as that meant she did not have those side effects. The 5 year survival rate for her mix was about 30%. She may have survived, but she was not there anymore. I would no longer subject a moderate dementia patient to cancer treatment to experience a longer life of confusion, fear, and wasting away.
Folks on this site understand what you're going through. It's tough- but it's true life and this is the current phase of your parent's life- and yours.
My experience with my parents has taught me how completely dementia chips away at all a person is: temperament, physical health, life skills...everything.
Caring for your parent (your spouse) as they move through these changes can be debilitating. At the same time it is a part of life, part of family life to care for those your love. The "promise" is possible to fulfill. It CAN be done. But, with certainty, it will change you, as you learn to "be" the one to change, to become more supportive accepting that all is different now.
You write that your dad "has always balked at hiring an agency". He still wants to be her hero. It's what they do so it's helpful to incorporate that into home care.
So, the help he hires "supports the hero/and the child of the hero (you) so that you can be strong for her (his wife, your mother). Whether you two continue this support at home, or in a facility, the reason/discussion is the same - how to support the hero/the family.
As far as your mom's behaviors - this is the disease. The expectations we have for our loved ones are our own issues - they have nothing to do with our loved one.
If she "fights going to the bathroom", she is not fighting, she is scared and pulling away from something that scares her. Instead of suggesting the bathroom, I often tell my mom, "I have a surprise for you". We walked together to the bathroom. When we open the door, I just direct her to the window (or the space heater). Come over here Mom -it's warm. Then I say, "mom hold onto the handrail. I'm going to lower your pants so you can sit on the potty by the heater.
Changing MY language does much for the situation. She's intrigued by the surprise. She hasn't been told to go the the bathroom. My focus was never using the bathroom - it was almost incidental and before you know it, we are both aligned to the same goal. (But, I made the change. I adapted.)
Sleep too- changes- My mom is up and down all night, sometimes until 6 am, sometimes just 3 am. This is why I'm at this late hour. I have cameras in the house and motion sensors that alert me. She sleeps late during the day. I sleep late during the day. (I make the change. I adapt.)
Whether your Mom is cared for by you and your Dad at home or in a facility, caregivers are responsible for changing/adapting. (Even doctors are not good at adapting. One said to us once in the hospital to open the shades while Dad was napping- that he needed to sleep during the night and be awake during the day.) Your Mom is not doing anything intentionally. She's living her best life that she's capable of. Every day, her life is more challenging that ever before, more confusing, scary- like walking on an uneven sliver of land, unknown and never understood. Though you don't recognize her, she's still there, and accessible from time to time, in bits and pieces. Nothing will ever return to how it was, of course. When caregivers adapt with love and patience, loved ones feel loved and their lives are a little easier, a little calmer.
Follow the good advice of the other posts.
-Get Mom's doctor to write a prescription today for Hospice. They are wonderful. They offer a lot of support in the home, too. I asked for everything- baths five times a week, social worker, nurse, everything. They have tons of experience, are patient, can advise and listen.
-Schedule a consult with elder law attorney(s).
-Find time to celebrate your family. Re-tell old stories together, look at old pictures. You are all living and loving together right now. It's hard, but it's family. (I moved home to be caregiver for my parents 3 1/2 years ago. My dad died of ALZ sixteen months ago. Mom is living with ALZ too. They often took turns not knowing who the other was, but they lived together, in their own home, as man and wife 64 years.)
My best to you...
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Note that Elder Law (any attorney really) won't be cheap, but their knowledge would be worth it if they are qualified. Many offer a first consult (~30-60 min) for free. Have all questions written up to save time and money and take notes!
If the income is low enough for your state (Medicaid rules vary widely by state), there are options - the attorney should be able to guide you. Some in-home care can be provided by Medicaid as an alternative to a NH. Also if your dad was a veteran, he might qualify for some assistance there too.
It can take 2 to 3 weeks to die of dehydration..something to think about if she stops eating/drinking and it's very slow painful way to go even with morphine.
I kept my mom very comfortable with a feeding tube -- takes work, but I never had a complication with it. including daily dressing changes. Never clogged either.
I suggest you ask yourself WHAT would you want if years from now it was you who was so ill!
Most people would want to be at home ,but I have been there BUT I AM NOT IN YOUR SHOES! One thing that can help your decision is to ask yourself this question " years later ,if your loved one passes before you do would you have any guilt based on the decision you end up making? That answer will help you a lot!!
With Respect and care,God be with You,
Dr Jack
Dad passed in Oct. I am still trying to find myself back to normalcy. My Mom is still living but medically nothing like I had to endure with Dad, at least not yet.
I did learn a few things:
1. I am not a medical expert. I do not have a medical degree nor am I a Neuro chemist. I cannot fix a disease that has no straight path. All I can do is do my research and do the best I can.
2. I am not a financial expert. My parents saved money but by no means wealthy. I was able to save most of their money until this last few months when Dad required 24/7 care. You will and need help now. I hope you Mom is on hospice already and ask them for any references other than agencies. There are excellent providers out there. I could not have had Dad at home without them.
3. I learned Mom could not make any decisions. She was stressed, exhausted with Dad's illness. We battled constantly at the end. She didn't understand I could not save Daddy.
When Dad started sleeping more, I knew he was progressing to another stage. He sometimes did not want to get out of bed. About 4 mos before he passed he went through what I called his "Sleeping Beauty mode". He slept for a week. No food or drink. We could not wake him. When he woke we started with plenty of fluids and soft foods. He wasn't weak like what I would of expected. He was his normal and hungry.
He had these episodes every month. Of course he was losing weight and his b/p was getting weaker. I put him on oxygen and he looked better but still continued to decline. The body could eat but the physical body was going. No one could see that except for me and the caregivers.
Dad died peacefully Oct 27, 2019. Everyone said he looked great at the end however me, not so much. They became your children and it's tough.
I know that I did all I could and That's all any of us can do. GOD BLESS!
Hired help. Most home health care agencies can do assessments to help you with seeing what tasks your mom needs help with. Most home health care aides want 4-12 hours shifts (usually 8 hours) and are paid at least minimum wage. Those through and agency cost more as do CNAs, certification costs more and is more reliable. Assisted living and total care residential facilities usually cost more than have occasional home health care assistants. If mom is in "hospice", most health insurance companies will cover the cost for in-home or facility care for a certain number of weeks or months.
Hospice at home is not going to provide 24 care. They will provide some care hours and a nurse visit once or twice a week. But they can provide equipment and help get her medication hopefully to calm her down and give her some peace. I think your mom is in end stage due to refusing food and fluids. Unless you and your father are ready to deal with that on your own at 2am, I would consider placement. You might not have time to tour facilities. Some hospices have their own facilities as well.
Please consult an eldercare attorney.
The admissions officer we worked with was wonderful... she was extremely knowledgeable and knew exactly what we needed to do because she had seen the same situation countless times over, as will any facility you choose to talk to. Even if your dad balks at the idea, take the initiative for yourself so you have some idea of what to expect in terms of cost. Sadly, you will end up resenting both of them in the long run if you try to continue as you've been doing, and that's no way to remember either of them... we saw it happen with my MIL because, like your parents, they made promises to keep each other out of nursing homes no matter what and then for the last 10 years of her life her kids had to be her caregiver at all hours of the day. It was not pleasant and certainly not a memory any of us wanted to have of her.
Caring for mom could very well be taking a significant toll on dad. If something happens to dad, then what? Often the well caregiver spouse will pass before the partner. It is a very stressful job he has. It is not a failure to get mom the care she needs and deserves.
The nursing homes are very different now from 30 years ago. They are much more tightly regulated.
I can understand you wouldn't want to press your father on the subject, but what you could do about the hospice evaluation is contact the hospice service yourself and ask them to explain exactly what would happen if your father agrees to it. Then you'll be able to explain it to him in turn, and that should help him be less anxious about the idea.
How has your mother been since the non-diagnosis in October? Any further major problems with her bowel function?
I agree that getting a hospice evaluation is a good idea.
Please get him to an eldercare attorney so that he can arrange his affairs properly.
In-home care can be less if there are ways to reduce the number of paid caregiver hours, but can require a lot more input from the family to organise – it isn’t always smooth.
In general, one-on-one care is simply unaffordable. If you can’t do it, there is no choice. Don’t blame yourself for it, it isn’t your fault.
If asked 20 years ago if this is what she would want her husband or you doing what would she have said?
Placing her in Memory Care she will get help 24/7/365.
He can become the Husband again.
You can become a daughter again
You will be able to be able to relax and enjoy being with her rather than having to worry about changing her, doing the laundry, worrying about getting a bath done, cleaning up after breakfast, lunch and dinner.
This is not a failure, this is not giving up this is trying to give her the best care that will not take a toll on your dad's health. (statistics show that often the care giver dies before the person they are caring for)
It might be time to look into Medicaid and that may take a while.
Call the Agency on Aging again and keep at it until you get the help that he needs.
Would your mom be able to attend Adult Day Care? If so that would also give him a break a few days a week.
I have been struggling with placing her in a MC center, as I was one who promised to "never put you in a home". Thank God she took care of her POA's and Living Will taken care of years ago (naming me), she has no home, car or money other than her small pension and SS. I have no savings either (small pension and SS too). I had to spend my 401K to stay with her in Ohio until she was able to fly, as well as pay all my bills at home too, in order to keep my apartment.
Got her on Medi-Cal (Medicaid in California), but haven't had time, with all I do for her) to look into whether they pay for Memory Care or not. I do know they have in home supportive services - but need to check that too! This takes so much time to do all the research, but I know I have to do it somehow.
Again, thanks!!
Once people liquidate their savings, stocks, bonds, boats, they are able to get Medicaid.
Waivers is decision not to admit to institutional care.
You have to be approved by state, and then have RX from doctor for number of hours.
See Office of Long Term Living, Department of Human Services in your state.
Make sure if you have private pay or in home care, you remove valuables. Camera is allowed to observe patient and give security in private home. See your state's laws.