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My 71 year old husband was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s Dementia 8 years and 6 months ago. For the first 3 years it wasn't terribly hard to take care of him. My 90 year old mother has Dementia but is actually doing quite well. Her Dementia is mild. She beat breast cancer a year ago and is remarkably healthy and able so she lives in an independent-living apartment at a retirement community. I visit her 3 times a week and take her shopping when she needs to go. I take her out to eat when she wants to and take her to Bible Study and church with me. When I moved her here she lived with us for the first 3 months and opened a joint bank account with me so we could take care of her finances together. I take her with us on vacations. I refill her medicine box every other week and take her to all her medical appointments and pick up all her medications at the pharmacy. She doesn't like the mail-in option. She is always very grateful for everything I do for her. My husband had been slowly getting worse after the 3rd year with Alzheimer’s and It was becoming increasingly difficult to take care of him. Then his mental and physical health declined rapidly while I was in the hospital for 6 days in October after spine surgery. I have come to the decision, with my children's agreement and support, that it is time for my husband to go into a long-term care facility. I just don't think I am capable of continuing the kind of care he now needs. His brother and sister-in-law, and a friend who lost her husband to Alzheimer's a couple of years ago, think I'm being selfish. They tell me all I need to do is ask the VA to allow more hours for his in-home health Aide. At present our HHA works with us 11 hours a week and is great with him. I could see if VA would approve more hours but that won't help me with seeing to his bathing needs, getting through the half hour I spend preparing him for the night and seeing him settled him down for sleep. More hours with an HHA wouldn't help when he wakes me up in the middle of the night knocking on his bedroom door because he doesn't know where he is or where I am. He thinks it is time to get up at 3:00 a.m. or 4:00 a.m. but doesn't know how to get out of his room. This is a new behavior that started about 2 weeks ago. The first night he did this it scared 10 years off my life because I was sound asleep and suddenly heard very loud knocking. I thought it was someone at the door even though it was 2:48 in the morning on my way to the front door I realized it was coming from his room. This has become a nightly habit. There are other things too that won't be changed by having more hours with a Home Health Aide. I am already struggling with guilt at the idea of putting him in a facility. Our children started telling me months ago that it is time. I told them I didn't think he was ready and didn't think I could do it. Now even my 15 year old granddaughter, who dearly lives her Papa, says it's time. I am confused and can't disagree with those who say it is selfish of me to "put him away" as they call it. I don't know what to say to them. I am glad I found this website. I have a feeling it is going to be a great help. I hope one of you can tell me what you say to people who tell you are not doing right by your loved one.

FYI...
You can call the non emergency number or even 911 and ask for a "Lift Assist".
Paramedics are trained to help someone up without injury to themselves or the person they are helping.
In most cases ther is no cost if there is no transport to the hospital. You will have to sign a release.
The other advantage to calling is they now know there is a "vulnerable" person in the home and will be prepared when/if they have to return
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I will caution everyone who recommends 24/7 in home care to first look and confirm this help is available to you. In my experience in the last month I had 4 companies taking a part of the total schedule and it was super stressful. No shows, poor care, rude behavior, accusations of being racist, and the deal breaker was a man in the house (BF of caretaker). While it sounds like a good idea, it is extremely difficult to manage and crazy expensive.
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Oh my dear, I just want to cry reading this. You have come to the right place.

People can be so cruel and selfish when they are afraid. That’s what this is. Your husband’s brother is thinking of himself and “what if”, and sending a clear message to his family—don’t ever put ME in one of those places.

You most certainly do not deserve this. Eight years is such a long time, and he is so young. You’ve had health issues already. Continuing to care for him at home will probably kill you first. How does that help?

If I were in your position, I’d have one “come to Jesus” talk with BIL: unless he wants to take full responsibility for his brother he has no decision making authority whatsoever and I will not tolerate his meddling. The first word he speaks to either husband or me on the subject will be the last ever. I’d be very willing to go no contact over this. If you have a son, you might ask him to join you for this talk, to demonstrate your solidarity on this.

Listen to your wonderful, loving kids, who have your best interest at heart and not themselves. I wish you the best. Please let us know how you’re doing.
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Ctcart: Perhaps it is due time for your DH (Dear Husband) to enter a managed care facility.
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Dear CTCart, my heart right now feels your struggle in my own situation. I moved my husband, age 74 and 8 years into his Alz journey, into memory support care at the beginning of November. My health was challenged, he was declining and I was beyond stressed. I find it very difficult to keep an objective perspective about all that is involved in his care. Like you, I have our adult children's support. No one has directly criticized me but there have been indirect jabs from others that hurt very much such as, OH, I would feel soooo guilty!" To which I replied, "I have nothing to feel guilty about. I didn't cause his Alzheimers and I have given him 110% every day!"

I am keenly aware of our good fortune to be able to afford memory care. This diagnosis is like Tsunami destroying everything in its path, including family finances. Our doctor told me last week at hubbys appointment that I was wise in my choice, making the move before there is a crisis and there will be acrisis.

I know this is best but let me share that although it has solved many issues, life is still very difficult. Husband's weight has stabilized after losing a lot, I can now sleep through the night (turn off your ringer to avoid middle of night calls), I am starting to bounce back from a long covid infection, and I know he is safe. Still, it is not a panacea. Husband is having a tough time adjusting, which means I am, too. Even though I professed to my old friend I have nothing to feel guilty about, guilty feelings still arise in me. As I have shared here before ours was not a perfect marriage but it has been my role for 48 years to take care of this man. Old habits die hard! So, yes, be prepared for some guilty feelings and second guessing yourself. You are a parent so you know too well that sometimes we must make the tough decisions to take good care of those we love.
I wish you some peace and comfort in the coming days as as you discern what is best for EVERYONE.
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KPWCSC Jan 17, 2025
Thank you for sharing your honest "after placement" feelings and insights. I know no two people will feel the same, whatever decision is made. Your insight is refreshing because it is raw and honest, rather than pushing for or against placement. For me, it is not time for us but I appreciate the information to help me with the decision if we should get to that crossroad.
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Probably one of the most difficult decisions to make for an elderly loved one but I appreciate your compasssion for him.

In my humble opinion, home is where he is familiar, home is where the heart is so to speak so if he can afford to stay home with 24 hour care then I believe that is best. If that is not doable do your due diligence and find the best possible place to allow him to age with dignity and support. Also consider hiring a Care Manager to ensure he is being well taken care of and checking in on his well being 1 x a week.
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Ctcart Jan 17, 2025
Lglazer I have wondered if hiring 24/7 in home care is a choice for us. Our house is kind of şmall and we can only afford Long-term care with the help of the VA. I do still have time to consider it more. I didn't realize I could hire a "care manager". Do you mind sharing a little more information about that, such as where you find such a person and how they are paid, what they can do for us?
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I think the guilt is coming from confusing your response to you mom's dementia with how you think you should do the same with your husband's. They are very very very different and while you were able to care for your mom because hers was slow and mild, you cannot care for your husband at this stage of his decline. You must place him for your sake and his. He will be safer and most likely happier. You can still visit him often and be his wife, not his caregiver. And you can sleep without being alarmed in the middle of the night. You've already put in years of caring duties. It's time to place him. You are not abandoning him. You are doing the best for him.
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Ctcart Jan 17, 2025
Artist daughter the first person I toured a care home with told me that if I find the right place for him I can finally quit being the care-giver I've been for 8 and a half years and go back to being his wife. I suppose the reason I went on and on about my mother's care is because I was trying to justify placing him in care, knowing that I'm taking care of c2 people, and because I couldn't understand why I'm still able to care for her but not for him. You are right; it is not the same thing at all. I appreciate what you are saying. Right now I'm felling better about my decision. I just wonder how I'm going to feel the day a bed becomes available for him and I actually move him out of our home.
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As far as VA, definitely talk to his social worker and ask for more hours. Did you know you are probably eligible for a social worker for you too through the VA Caregiver Support Program? They can even assist you in finding the best facility for him. They have finally begun to acknowledge the value of family caregivers. Even if you place him it will not happen overnight so try to get as much as possible to get you through the transition... you may find it is enough to keep him home. I am up to 28 hours per week and there is also a separate Respite program you can get 30 days a year of 6 hours per day in addition to regular caregivers. I recently used my 30 days and recently requested more regular hours and was told they are giving temporary Respite hours of 10 per week for a trial period of 3-4 months. I have learned not to deny myself of by buying into myths of what is and what isn't available... always ask those in authority and get an official yes or no. So many benefits are decided on an individual basis. No two caregivers or veterans have the exact same needs or qualifications. Whatever hours you get, you should be allowed to use them anytime day or night.

Do they even visit? If so, tell them to continue to visit him in his new home so he won't feel "put away" as they call it. Tell them looking after your own health and well-being is not being selfish and say if they feel different, they have a right to their opinion but as others have suggested... you don't get a vote in their family decisions so they don't get a vote in your family decisions. If they don't currently visit then they don't even need to know where he lives. Any question about his well being, be honest... he is doing fine, he has some bad nights, etc... they don't need to know where he is doing fine or having bad nights.
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Ctcart Jan 17, 2025
Thank you for all this great information KPWCSC. His family visits twice a year.
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A couple of suggestions:
1 - Sleep medication from his doctor to help him sleep through the night. He will need this whether he stays with you or goes into residential care.
2 - Check with the VA about more hours for evening help. You might be surprised that you can get more help... and that might be all you need. Consider whether a trial of respite is needed. Of course, it seems you have already considered these options and realize "the time" has come.
3- My snarky response to critics - sign them up to take turns being with him throughout the night. They do not realize that you need uninterrupted sleep in order to function. Also sign them up to help with the evening care he needs. When they realize that this is part of your continual challenge and they are not helping, then the protests should subside. Make sure to "ask" as sweetly and innocently as you can.
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Ctcart Jan 17, 2025
Taama your last sentence made me giggle. Nice to laugh a little about it. I just read someone else's response mentioning Respite care. I definitely want to check into that. Maybe if I can get some Respite care and evening hours with our Aide I could keep him at home. I am sure learning a lot in this site. I wish I'd reached out to others 4 orc5cyears ago.
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I think if you figure the cost of Long Term Care in a facility VS care in your home with caregivers depending on how many hours you have a caregiver the cost of a facility may be less.
I was lucky caring for my husband.
He was easy, I was easily 15 years younger than I am now when he was diagnosed and I am sad to admit that I do not think I could do now what I did even 6 years ago.
But I based my decision to keep him home on 1 thing.
Safety
If it got to the point where is was no longer safe for HIM for me to care for him I would have had to place him.
If it was no longer safe for ME to care for him I would have had to place him.
I was lucky that I had Hospice the last 3 years of his life. I got all the supplies, equipment that I needed to care for him safely.
And I had caregivers for a good portion of that time. They were not there every day but there were there Mon-Fri from 9am until 4pm. That gave me a lot of time to get things done and get a break.

What you say to people that say you are "putting him away" how about...
"Well "Gertie", since you are so sure that it is easy how about you come over on Mondays and take care of "Hank" while I get some things done"
"And "Helen", you can come on Tuesday"
I can bet that all of a sudden you will stop getting calls from "Gertie and Helen"
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Ctcart Jan 17, 2025
Grandma 1954 I have considered that he would probably be safer in a care home. The last time he fell, about 2 weeks befor my spine surgery, I could not help him up. I'm 5" 4' and weigh 150 lbs. He is 6'2" and weighs 245. He had lost more weight since that fall. I had to call a friend and she and her husband came and helped me get him up and took us to the hospital. I hurt my back once already trying to help him out of the shower. He had not yet been violent with me but he had punched the wall a couple of times and punched his own leg a few times out of frustration. That scares me when it happens.
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You need to do what is best for you and your Husband, and not try to make others happy. I just finished the Alzheimers journey with my 95 yr old Dad. When he got to the point where it required lifting and incontinence, along with safety issues in his home, we made the decision to have him move to a small apartment in an assisted living facility. We always had someone with him 24/7 in his home but it was becoming dangerous for him and us. one of us visited him every days at the ALF, making sure the staff was on top of things. This is important, otherwise he can get bedsores from not having his depends changed, sores that just appear from rougher aides and medications may be missed or incorrectly given. We also put motion cameras in his living area and bedroom/partial bathroom area. We alerted management when we saw things that were not acceptable. When Dad could no longer participate with the activities and the staff didn't want to do the additional care needed (transfering him to the wheelchair, feeding him when his motor skills declined) we moved him to a small home facility with only 5 other residents and a staff of 3-4. They were all live in caregivers and wonderful with the residents. Kind, patient, and so positive. Dad loved it. And it was almost the same cost as the AFL, from $5000 for his apt to $6000 for the bedroom, but the level of care was amazing.
This was so good for Dad and we knew he was being cared for. If anyone in your family has an issue with this, ask them to let you know what hours they will be coming every day to help. Ultimately, it's your decision and health, not theirs.
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Ctcart Jan 16, 2025
SKELLEY 1230 thank you for some great advice about what v to watch for. I think it's great that you were able to find better place for your Dad. I think asking people who are not on board with my decision when they will come take care of him for awhile is a great response. Thanks.
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You are not being selfish. Anyone outside the caregiving circle does not have a vote.
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I know from both being home caregiver for my now 97 year old mother with dementia and nursing home. When at home I had private pay aide for 35-40 hrs. My mother hasn’t walked for 8 years. There’s numerous problems in nursing home. Constant turnover, short staffed. Waiting on aide to come back from break to change mom diaper. So I end up doing it myself . Yesterday nurse gave me all her meds to give her..I ask why..he said mom told him to “get the hell away from her! “ I would say same if it was me. So I gave mom all meds and told nurse I want his salary for that day. They take all her income so I expect them to do everything not behave like this. Also she had bug bites from Apr to Oct. I couldn’t even verify if cream was applied. It’s a lot of aggravation at nursing home. Either decision is not 100 % perfect as there’s problems with both
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Ctcart Jan 16, 2025
CaregiverL I am so sorry to hear about the deplorable treatment of your Mom. Thank you so much for the advice and the warning. I have been afraid of choosing the wrong place so I've been visiting different places and taking a full tour of each place. As I walk along with the tour guide I am constantly watching what is going on around me. I'm aware that if people know someone is watching them they will behave better so I try to observe without being obvious about it. I am really glad for you that you found a smaller, safer place for your Mom.
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Do not feel guilty. Do what is best for you and your household. <3
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The answer to them is, it's none of their business unless they care to step in your shoes and care for him. People who do not caretake have NO idea what it's like and how mentally and physically hard it is on your mind, body, and spirit. You also have to watch out for your own health too. I am in the process of securing a memory care facility for my mom. She started hallucinating terribly and calling the police because she was seeing people due to her ALZ diagnosis.
I live 1,000 miles away from her and caring from her remotely is no longer working and she isn't willing to move to me, so I'm moving her near our family in her state. I checked on in home care for overnights and it was going to run her close to $17k a month which is not feasible! This has to be one of the hardest decisions I've ever had to make but I know it's best for her and for my mental wellbeing as I have been caring for both parents since 2019. My dad passed in November and her mental status has taken a huge nosedive. Do I want to put her into a care facility, absolutely not, but I need to work and still have a good 20+ years before I can retire and care for my own family too. Please do not feel bad for coming to this decision. You know what is best for you and your LO.
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Sounds like the brother, SIL, and friend haven’t fully accepted the reality of your husband’s diagnosis and all of its implications. You’ve lived it day and night, they haven’t, trust your judgment in this. Tune out the voices of those who haven’t walked in your shoes. Offer to go on vacation for a month and let them take over both your mom’s care and husband’s and see how quickly they hush. More importantly, know you don’t owe them an explanation and remind yourself often that you’re looking out for him at a time he’s lost the ability to do so for himself. You’ve done a great job, hubby and mom are blessed to have you
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Unbelievable that they think a few more hours of a VA aide will replace what you are doing, on top of caring for a 90 year old mother. Kudos to you. I agree with all that when they don't sleep at night it really becomes impossible. You can't be a martyr to people that aren't helping at all, forget it. BTW we just started my Dad on 25 mg of Trazadone at night and he sometimes sleeps through the night now after waking us or my Mom 3-6 times a night for the last few years. We also put him and my Mom into AL and the aides (supposedly) check on him in the night. So far he has survived a week. I couldn't deal with the night time wakenings and irrational calling out, it drove me crazy with anxiety and stress on top of the daytime demands. And paying someone $350 a night to be at their home, on top of the daytime caretaking cost was not sustainable.
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Do what you need to do, and say nothing. 8 years is a long time.
The stuffy in-laws can shove their opinions.

I bet you $50 they will make an excuse not to take care of him for just a week.
Then you tell them, "I will only listen to actual caregiver's input. You know nothing about it, so your input won't be considered."

Don't take the crap. You are his wife, your kids are in agreement. Done deal.
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Tell your friend and his bother and wife that they are welcome to alternate weeks caring for your husband. If they don’t want to do that, then they can zip it.

As you can see with your mother, dementias are not all the same.
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Thank you for posting this question. The responses are helpful for me to see. I am a caregiver for my dad, who is 91, and he's been exhibiting similar behaviors with waking up early and thinking it's time to start the day. He did it 3 times a few days ago... at 3:15 am, 4:15 am and 4:35 am. I am a wreck on days when he does this, and of course, he doesn't apologize and goes on with his day later like nothing happened. Hoping you can find a good place for your husband and that you can get some peace.
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Ctcart Jan 15, 2025
I learned just a few days ago that my husband now has Sundowner's Syndrome; which is causing these new nighttime behaviors and more. Maryglndiana you may what to find out if your Dad is a Sundowner. I have found lots of helpful articles that suggest ways to alleviate or at least lesson these evening and nighttime events. Good luck to you.
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Other people's opinion of you is none of your business.

These folks who think you're so "selfish" for "putting him away" haven't been doing the hands on caregiving for 8 yrs and 6 months. They are Armchair Critics who do nothing but Point Fingers at what you're doing wrong from the comfort of their armchairs. They are to be ignored and their opinions are to be considered nonsensical. When THEY come over to relieve YOU of night duty, THEN they can have a relevant opinion.

There are TWO lives that matter here, not just your husband's because he has Alzheimer's. What about the stats that show the great number of caregivers to demented elders that die before the patient? Then what happens? Then the patient goes into managed care where he should've been for years anyway! And the caregiver is dead!

Placement in Memory Care Assisted Living or Skilled Nursing is not the horror show many make it out to be. I had mom in Memory Care Assisted Living for the last 3 years of her life where she got MUCH better care, socialization and activities than she'd ever have gotten in my home. I was not equipped to care for her myriad issues at all. Plus, I know my own limitations and hands on caregiving is one of them. Mom lived to 95. I visited her regularly and was her advocate for over 10 years. Anyone who had anything negative to say to me was ignored 100%. Until a person walks a mile in your shoes, they have no right to judge.

Best of luck to you.
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Ctcart Jan 15, 2025
Lealonnie 1 thank you so much for your reply. I only recently discovered all the information about caregivers who have died before th e lived one they were taking care of due to the the physical and emotional stress placed on their bodies. I was surprised. But the thing I especially like is your statement about how much more socialization and activity they get in
facility. That is a great reason to give the buttinskies of I must give them one. Knowing that makes me feel much better sbout my decision. Thank you again.
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After 8+ years of being my mother's "everybody and everything" I don't worry so much about others' opinions. Let them think I'm awful because she's safe in memory care. What your in-laws think won't change the course of your life one bit. I think if someone used the word "selfish" with me, I'd launch into a 30 minute rant and have to be peeled off the ceiling. Haha! I mean, I still need advice and reassurance, and I have tons of odd questions, but I come here for that.
I feel the same way toward people who say it's shameful not to have children, or it's awful to expect my husband to cook his own dinner if I'm late at work. People just have different opinions about how they think things ought to be. Usually because of something their grandparents had to do back in olden times.
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Ctcart Jan 15, 2025
Youare right Blue Heron. I am so glad I found this site. I am feeling far less ambiguity over my decision now than I did before reading about other people's experiences.
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I don't think you have to tell them anything.They are not doing ter caregiving. You don't have to justify your decisions to anyone. Please let the guilt go. What you are doing is the responsible for your hub and for yourself.

Just smile and change the topic. 😊
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Ctcart Jan 15, 2025
I like your response Golden23; just smile and caribe the topic.
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You have nothing to be guilty about. You can only do what you can do.
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You are brave and courageous and have all my admiration for your love and devotion to caring for your husband.

I believe You have made a very wise choice and know that you have limitations when it comes to alzheimers.

How dare those people be so judgmental. They do not have any say at all. Ask them to keep their personal judgment and any comments to themselves. No longer discuss with them any plans for you and your husband.

So sorry you are not supported by all family. Lean on the fact that your children are supporting this difficult decision. I wish you strength and peace during this challenging journey.
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Ctcart Jan 15, 2025
Thankyou very muchAMZebbC. Your reply is very encouraging.
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Anyone who is not providing the 24/7 care DOES NOT GET A VOTE.

End of discussion.

Save yourself and your sanity.
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THIS!!
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it is your decision and your Life . When it gets to a Point where you are woken or stressed it effects our health . People have no idea what we actually go through . I almost Had a nervous breakdown dealing with My Dads Behaviors . No One understood . A person Only Has so Much energy before they feel exhausted .
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I think you can say “he now needs more care than I can provide” just like you told us. You should not feel guilty. You aren’t being selfish. You didn’t cause his dementia and no one can cure it. You are ensuring that he gets the care that he does need.
I am glad that your children support your decision.
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This is for your husband's safety. When this kind of confusion sets in, it's impossible to predict what kind of wandering or inappropriate/unsafe behavior he might engage it. He could get out of his room and anything could happen then, while you are asleep. You also need to protect your own health (you had spine surgery!) so that you can continue to see that your husband is safe and cared-for, whether by yourself, family members, or facility staff.
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Thank you waytomisery. I definitely regret that I toldmy BIL last week that I've begine the search for a place for his brother. You are right I can learn to set boundaries and kindly ask them to bac-off.
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