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My brother is in a nursing home now, their facility cases of Covid 19 have been on the rise in the past week. Is there an option to bring him to my house until the numbers go down and how can I get home healthcare for him? He needs 24/7 care.
Is your brother a Medicaid recipient? If so, and you remove him, he may lose his spot in the facility, especially if there's a waiting list.
How old is he? Does he have underlying conditions, like diabetes, COPD, asthma, auto immune disease of any sort, heart disease? If so, this may be a reason to remove him but if you can't get the in-home care he needs, it just may not be possible.
My 85-yr old MIL just recovered from covid in her facility (after 4 weeks). The staff brought it in. This is something you need to consider in bringing your brother home and then bringing outside help. That's the weak link, the uncontrollable variable.
MIL was very sick, was on hospice on week 4 but had a full recovery. She has no underlying conditions. Was given 5 lts oxygen and Tylenol on schedule. That's it for 4 weeks. Then she just bounced back and doesn't even remember any of it.
Thank you so much. Yes he is on medicaid, and I don't want to create a monster by taking him out of the facility (which he wants soooo badly) He is only 52 yrs and quadraplegic. My mother use to care for him before her untimely death and I had not way to care for him. I talked with the facility administrator and I feel better about the precautions they are taking but if the numbers continue to rise I will have to make a decision. Thank you again.
Well before you make a decision you need to find out if bringing him home is even possible. WHO do you expect to pay for 24/7 homecare? Medicaid isn’t going to pay for that. So unless you are wealthy and can afford to pay for his care, if you bring him home YOU will be providing most of his care.
kelligirl, oh...I don't blame him for wanting out. The overarching issue is that no one knows when covid will burn itself out or there will be an effective vaccine. He could be in your home for months and months. IMHO I think you will need to work on having peace in your heart that he's probably in the best place he can be since there's just no guarantee he won't get it at your home. You'd need to have a very different daily and social life, and any outside help would probably need to be live-in so that you knew for sure they weren't exposing themselves. We just had a "bout" of it in our church after just 1 Sunday of in-person service strictly following the CDC rules. The 1 person who (we think) brought it in has a (somewhat) weak immune system, 2 others were over 65 w/diabetes and another couple were both morbidly obese. We were in that service and didn't get it. FYI they all recovered. I believe the virus is incredibly contagious, considering how very careful the staff was (and I was on the planning and cleaning team so I KNOW how strictly everything was followed). Now we have an outdoor service and no one has gotten sick there that we are aware of. I wish you all the best as you figure out how to advocate for and protect your brother!
Thank you Geaton, I think I was in panic mode and disnt want anything to happen on my watch. I appreciate all the responses they helped me to remain calm.
Tell brother that if you bring him home, and YOU get sick, you would both be up a creek.
He is actually safer where he is, and I sense a hesitation in you to bring him home as he sounds like a 24/7 care.
COVID is going nowhere for the forseeable future. Only a drug to cure it or a vaccine is going to be bringing us back to the new normal.
Don't look at the 'numbers' so much, they do not tell the whole story. Look at the overall mortality rate which has a smaller proportion of deaths than COVID does. And nobody is talking about that very real number.
Even WITH a vaccine, 40% of the population will get the vaccine, so we've got COVID forever.
Homecare resources are currently tapped out. Once anyone is discharged from anywhere a 10-14 self quarantine is prob required these days. That may affect you and your family in exposing them to possible Covid when he is at your home. I would leave him where he is unless you can pre-arrange & find resources for you to pay for all his care needs at your home (His insurance). Case managers are overwhelmed finding placement for those being DC’d from acute care facilities. It is a blooming mess out there & now the US again has many new hotspots. We’ll all be wearing masks for the next 6 months, I’ll bet. Its not feasible to take him home without help.
Two problems. 1. Difficult to get home health care aids with the extra unemployment of 600. No one unemployed will consider taking home health care jobs. But call agencies. 2. If you take him out, you risk finding a spot if you want to put him back
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APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
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We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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How old is he? Does he have underlying conditions, like diabetes, COPD, asthma, auto immune disease of any sort, heart disease? If so, this may be a reason to remove him but if you can't get the in-home care he needs, it just may not be possible.
My 85-yr old MIL just recovered from covid in her facility (after 4 weeks). The staff brought it in. This is something you need to consider in bringing your brother home and then bringing outside help. That's the weak link, the uncontrollable variable.
MIL was very sick, was on hospice on week 4 but had a full recovery. She has no underlying conditions. Was given 5 lts oxygen and Tylenol on schedule. That's it for 4 weeks. Then she just bounced back and doesn't even remember any of it.
He is actually safer where he is, and I sense a hesitation in you to bring him home as he sounds like a 24/7 care.
COVID is going nowhere for the forseeable future. Only a drug to cure it or a vaccine is going to be bringing us back to the new normal.
Don't look at the 'numbers' so much, they do not tell the whole story. Look at the overall mortality rate which has a smaller proportion of deaths than COVID does. And nobody is talking about that very real number.
Even WITH a vaccine, 40% of the population will get the vaccine, so we've got COVID forever.
I would leave him where he is unless you can pre-arrange & find resources for you to pay for all his care needs at your home (His insurance). Case managers are overwhelmed finding placement for those being DC’d from acute care facilities.
It is a blooming mess out there & now the US again has many new hotspots.
We’ll all be wearing masks for the next 6 months, I’ll bet.
Its not feasible to take him home without help.