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Mom's "Core Personality" on full display today. Long story not so short, after telling Mom, again, that she cannot live with me, I do not have the room for her and she cannot climb my stairs to the bathroom, and her again saying, "But my grandparents lived with us when I was a kid and we had a great time" (no they didn't. Her senile grandfather grabbed her hand and put it on his....and ask her to pleasure him when she was 9 years old) and telling her that it doesn't matter what her parents did, I do not have the room for her and I was not going to force my kids to help take care of her, anyway, I changed the subject to the two new pairs of pants I bought her a month ago that she hadn't even worn yet. She first said that I hadn't bought her new pants that all she had was two pair of pants. I opened her pants drawer and there, on top of the six other pairs of pants, were the two I had just bought her. "Here they are. How do they fit? (While noticing that the tags were still on). She realizes 2 things, I can see it in her face: 1. That she had forgotten something and was not correct that I didn't buy her new pants and how dare I, a 52 year old CHILD in her eyes know something she doesn't. 2. I was changing the subject because I wasn't putting up with her pity party game and how dare I, a 52 year old child in her eyes, not let her try to make me feel bad for not letting her live with me. so I must be punished. Mom's favorite way to punish anyone, especially her kids... MIND GAMES. "They don't fit. They're too big. They fall off me." "Oh, really? Can I see how they fit so I can get a sense of what size to get you instead?" Uh-oh, now she's been caught in a lie thus - Fake can't get the pants that she has on and are falling literally slipping down to her butt off, they "won't go past her waist" she says, just as she's dropping them to the floor. "Mom, please sit down to take those off so you don't fall." Grabs the new pair, and while standing tries to put her legs in, "Mom, please sit down to put your pants on." Ignores me. Mom, Sit Down. You're going to fall. Ignores me. Pulls the new pants up to her bust line panting, "SEE, they're too tight, I I-I ccan't -b-b-reeeaaatthe) All so pathetically fake its was disgusting. "They look like they fit fine, Mom." While she begins taking them off again, still standing and nearly falling over. The whole time faking that she's suffocating. "Mom, PLEASE sit down to take those off." Ignores me. MOM! Sit down! Ignores me. So I lost it. "SIT YOUR @ZZ DOWN, NOW! THAT IS ENOUGH OF THIS NONSENSE! " Well, here comes the, "I'm stupid. I'm going to kill myself" emotional blackmail I have listened to my entire life. Fine. Good Night, Mom. See you on the flip side, maybe. I felt bad about yelling at her so badly driving home. But after I sat down on my couch and immiserated for a while, I realized, No. I have to stop doing this to myself. My mother's life long undiagnosed mental health disorders now coupled with her dementia are not my fault, and ...also not my problem. It will be months, hopefully, before I visit her again. I'm tired of going through this with her. My entire life has been like this, but now it's all the time, and so much worse that it already had been. I have my own life and my own responsibilities to attend to. My KIDS need me emotionally and psychologically healthy and too bad, so sad for Mom, they come first. That late night text that she needs breath mints...Ignored. That early morning message that she needs help, she's too hot, has no fixodent despite having now SIX brand new tubes, or toilet paper despite having 4 unwrapped rolls in addition to the brand new roll on the holder, but come now please, "I'm so scared! Help. Please!" Nope. New phone, who dis? I can't take it. I won't take it. I want my life back.

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I agree with the others....STOP visiting her so much and order her supplies on Amazon, shipped to her front door!

She's a Drama Queen BRAT, acting like AL is a jail/asylum, when she has no housework, cooking or cleaning to do! Ignore her whining how "she's scared." Scared of what? The housekeeper missed a spot? She doesn't like her meals made for her? Her towels aren't soft enough? Seriously?

Stop answering your phone, stop visiting, stop wasting your time and money. You have to be strong and simply AVOID HER. Don't buy her anymore clothes. As long as you come running every time, she will never stop her drama! She's in a nice place, has people to help her, and if it's an AL, she can leave if she wants!?

Make your own family your 2025 PRIORITY. You don't get the time you waste on Mom back. If you don't distance yourself and break this cycle, you have only yourself to blame. I don't see why so many caregivers get their troublesome parent placed, then go running back to them at every call! Mom's needs will be met fine where she is!

Life is too short. You must take yours back!
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mommabeans Jan 5, 2025
She can't leave if she wants. If she did they would put her on wander guard.
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You deserve to have your life back. She might be more respectful of you after you take a very long break from her—I doubt it, though. You and your children come first.
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I’m so sorry your mother is wired this way. I truly believe that when we get older our existing personality traits just intensify. My mom’s issues aren’t nearly as extreme as yours but she’s been a huge stressor for me. Not from the expected stress of supporting an elder through this difficult last phase of life, but because she stopped being a real mom to me in my teens. It’s hard to go the extra mile for someone who has let you down your whole adult life, whose entire validation was from men, and who never took responsibility for almost anything in her own life. And then there are people who adore their mothers and would do anything for them. I felt that way about my dad but he dropped dead (and my brother a year later) and guess who is holding the bag as she very, very slowly declines? You are a saint to continue to show up for her, but you definitely need to do as little as possible. I might even consider blocking her number and only unblocking once a week to check messages. If there is a true emergency the AL will contact you. And have her supplies delivered. Maybe check on her in person once a month. Give yourself some grace.
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Mommabeans, I read your additional response below. Think of it this way -- your visits with your mother do not make her happy. They trigger her abusive behavior. This is not your fault, it's hers. But stop putting yourself through this, because it isn't helping her due to her own issues.
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You don't need permission to take your life back. Just do it!

Stop spending your money on things she doesn't need. Learn to ignore her crazy demands. Mental health issues and dementia sometimes go hand and hand.

It will only get worse.
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I would give you a high five if I could!

Yes she is mentally ill and forgetful, but she knows what she is doing. I can’t stand it when adults play games like this. I have never accepted that family should just let their elders treat them like dirt. Living to get old doesn’t give people license to say or do whatever they want, whenever they want. It is not wrong to call such people out on their actions. Especially when they have never been called out or challenged on their behavior!
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waytomisery Jan 2, 2025
This 1000% !!
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Yes, she has a broken brain so it’s just crazy making for you to play along with whatever games she is playing. Disengage and live your life.
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Your response seemed to be an eventual given , considering how difficult and manipulative she’s being . So you told her to sit down . And called her out for her nonsense . So what ?

Stop feeling bad about it . I know I did too and it served no purpose .
My mother was also mentally ill and dementia just fanned the fire. She would push my buttons because SHE was unhappy about HER situation .

You have to protect yourself from getting burned . You can’t change Mom.
In desperation one day I yelled at Mom and told her “ I did not make you old Mom , I can’t fix old “. It actually made it better . She stopped her nonsense that day . And from then on she toned it down . You have to stand up for yourself .
Leave when she starts , tell her you have to go .
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Scampie1 Jan 4, 2025
This is truth. Way, you said a mouthful here.

I deal with all types of clients. I have one in particular that I had to take a firm stand. He sat there in filthy clothing everyday for months. The air even smelled dirty. Finally, I broke it down to him that if his nurse saw him in those clothes that she would call APS and report self neglect. He would sit in wet pants refusing to change them.

After that firm talking to, he bought an entire new wardrobe of clean clothing and the bathroom is much cleaner.
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If that's your idea of losing your temper BIG TIME with mom, then you're being way, way, way too hard on yourself.

I grew up in a house where mom's mother lived with us. I was an only child and dad worked from 7am till 11pm 7 days a week. Mom and grandma fought like rabid dogs all day long, with mom punching herself until she fell down in a heap on the floor. Lost her voice from screaming. Would get in the car to go "kill herself" while burning rubber off the driveway. Leaving grandma praying on her knees at the door and 4 year old me crying behind the high boy dresser in her bedroom. THIS was "losing her temper BIG TIME."

You need to stop buying mother things. She doesn't want them, or deserve them or appreciate them. You're looking to get blood from a stone thinking she'll appreciate your efforts in buying her slacks, and she turns that act of kindness into YOUR problem. I know the routine, and it sucks.

Your mother is a dramatic victim. Nothing you do is ever quite right or good enough. She wants to provoke you to overreact to her histrionics so YOU will yell, and then SHE can play victim and be The Injured Party. She's "so stupid she doesn't deserve to live" B.S. which is the Waif personality of the Borderline Personality Disordered individual. Read about it on Outofthefog.website It'll blow your mind like it did mine.

Mother needs to hire aides to help her and pay THEM to put up with her. You need to back AWAY from the nonsense. I had mom in AL for years bc I told her I'd do no hands on caregiving or cohabitating. Once was more than enough.

Protect yourself. Once these mentally ill women develop dementia (which they all seem to do), they go from a 5 to a 10 in their lunacy. They become unmanageable in every way. The only answer is very limited contact so we're not sucked into the vortex of insanity WITH them.

My mother lived to 95.

What steps will you take to protect yourself?
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MargaretMcKen Jan 2, 2025
Wow!
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I've been in your place so many times. My mom had lifelong mental health issues that everyone ignored, including herself. Now she's old and I suspect has dementia and is extra mean/needy/guilt tripping/manipulating. It's OK you got mad. You're human, and you were pushed beyond normal limits. I once yelled at my mom, after Putin invaded Ukraine, "If you think Putin was mad, wait until you see me." I thought my rage would make her listen to me - and my plans were reasonable even though my tone wasn't. However, my yellilng didn't work. All that happened is I got high blood pressure over the next two years and lived under a daily emotional storm of my own making. I'm reading a new book called "Let Them" by Mel Robbins. She has lots of YouTube videos. The gist is "Let people do what they want, say what they want." Then, "Let me" decide how to reply. I have finally accepted that low/no contact with parents is the only way, short of spending 25k on eldercare lawyers. I don't have that money, nor do I want to be involved in that emotional battle. Let your mom be nutty and wear the pants on her head if she wants. Then, when you have some space, you can "Let me" figure out what to do next. It sounds like you already know what comes next - let her fail. It seems your mom has some expectation of being taken care of hand and foot in her old age by her daughter. My mom does too. She did it for her mom. I was a kid when she was a slave to her mom. I suffered a lot - home alone all the time, my mom angry when she was home, etc. led to anorexia and drug use and poor choices until my 30s. Take care of your kids and yourself.
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mommabeans Jan 2, 2025
Funny part is, my mom avoided her parents at all costs and left the caretaking of them up to her brother and his family. I should feel like a jack*** saying it, but my mother does not deserve anything I have done for her. I should have just walked away and let the rehab facility send her wherever they were going to send her. I'm tired of people telling me its my fault for not redirecting her. As if I don't TRY. She's got a bone to pick with me and she's going to pick it. She's mad that she's in AL and she's mad at me for putting her there. NO appreciation for getting her into THE nicest place she could afford. She doesn't like her life now. She won't participate in activities. She won't socialize. And you know what? I do not feel sorry for her. I'm so angry that she was so selfish for so many years and refused to go to an "Aging in place" facility that starts in Independent Living. She didn't want to. I'm angry as hell that she refused to care that she was not only a danger to herself but to others and actually almost killed someone, and that's what it took to get a diagnosis. And I'm mad as hell that even now, after being the ONLY one of her 3 surviving children, and my 2 adult kids being the ONLY of her 5 adult grandkids to visit her at all, but still, somehow, *I* am the problem. Me. As it's always been. *I* am the issue. I'm not doing this anymore.
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Mommabeans, Alva is right, you and me are in very similar situations. Mommy is mad at me this week because, she doesn't approve of the way I live my life, at 60 she still thinks she can run my life, No matter how many times I stick up for myself, no matter how much I do for her, I will endlessly be her scapegoat. It is what it is. So I told her one more time, my life, if you want a ride to your next appointment let me know, end of story. So she called acted , her weird, mom like way, that she pulls on me, but didn't say a word about the other stuff. I'm frustrated because she is doing the narssasist way of holding back her love to get at me. Problem is I just don't give a , you know what anymore!!! It's not easy, and inside it gets to me a little bit, I have more work to do on that. But a got a vacation in 2 weeks, I'll be gone for 9 days. 😍

No matter what we decide to do , help them or not , either way , we have to do what is best for US.

Sorry this turned into me venting my life not very helpful to you, but we are not alone! 🫂🫂
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Momma,
I know I must have recommended Liz Scheier's memoir, Never Simple to you. You can get this through your library, on any book service, cheap on Amazon. She tried to function for her mother for decades, along with the Social Services of city and state of New York, all to no avail. Her mother died in either skid row housing or on the streets, I cannot now remember. Her mother was mentally ill mostly undiagnosed, and also almost certainly by the end in the throes of dementia.

You are driving YOURSELF nuts with all this.
You must stop.
You need to get it that there is nothing you can do FOR your mother.
There is nothing you can do ABOUT your mother.
You must disengage.

Currently you are contributing to the chaos by partaking in and of it; there can be no such thing as one-sided argument and one-sided fighting. It ALWAYS takes two. You are layering, HEAPING, needless guilt upon yourself.

Please practice the Serenity prayer like a mantra and I say that as an atheist.
Please get help for yourself. GOOD HELP with a cognitive therapist (none of the online nonsense).
Please leave your mother the phone numbers for your local council on aging and APS and EMS and tell her to phone them and not you. Tell her you are bowing out to save your own sanity, and are sorry for her and wish her the best.

Please stop answering your phone.
If you have not taken on POA be certain never ever to do so, and worse yet would be guardianship.

You have no power here.
Not everything can be FIXED.
You are helpless here.
Please stop. You are contributing to your own agony.
You are figuratively smashing your head into a brick wall over and over again.
No one will be able to help you if you continue this just as no one can now help your mother until and unless the state intervenes to diagnose her and manage her in in-facility care.

I am so very sorry. YOU are the SANE one here (for NOW, I stress). You MUST act to protect yourself. You are doing this woman utterly no good whatsoever, and it isn't within your power to do so.
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mommabeans Jan 2, 2025
My mother *IS* in Assisted Living and *IS* diagnosed Dementia. She comes after me because I am the ONLY of her children that visit regularly, and I am the only of them that do anything for her. The AL does NOT supply incontinence briefs, denture cream, toothpaste, soap, etc. Someone has to get those for her (certainly not as often as Mother demands it) and I am the only one who will. I am also the one that put her in the AL. So that is why I am her target. While my sister, who charged up HER credit card over $10,000, taking advantage of her declining cognition, while she made 2x my money my mother got a month, but now that she can't get money from her, she can't be bothered with her. But, yet, my sister remains her precious innocent (what a joke) favorite, my brother remains the Oh he's Sooooo busy one, but I guess my mom thinks I sit on my butt all day, when actually I'm driving around to Nursing Homes, Memory Care and psychiatric residential facilities pricing healthcare services. 60-80% of my patients have dementia. I have had some real doozies to deal with, but Mom is special kind of dementia. Truly. I have them scream "Murderer!" in my face and their behavior STILL isn't as riDONKulous as my mothers was. I have seen outrageous temper tantrums from Dementia patients. This was absolute pretending to be 2 years old, AND pretending that she's not pretending to be two years old. I'm not doing this anymore. I'll get her her briefs, toothpaste, essentials, from now on, but not anything else and when I feel like it.
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She has Dementia? Maybe time to place her. I would have lost it too, I have no patience.
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mommabeans Jan 2, 2025
She IS.
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Put this episode behind you. We all could write a chapter of the book “Things I could have Handled Better” Continue to do what you can reasonably do for mom, and nothing more. And when she baits you, be a good fish, and keep swimming past….
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You may be addicted to drama with her due to a lifetime of conditioning, but you can and should just unilaterally call an end to it and refuse to engage. It's up to you not to be drawn back in. You can do it. Turn your focus to your own family, who as you said need you to be healthy.
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mommabeans Jan 2, 2025
Excuse you?
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Take your life back. Work out what you are prepared to do, and set it out for M – in writing with a copy for you. Then DO it, and not more. After a week or more, go with a couple of options for her to choose between. If she won’t choose, do less. If you quit completely, tell APS that she is alone with no support.
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mommabeans Jan 2, 2025
She's not. She's in AL
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Just tell her you won't be her sucker slave anymore.
Nobody deserves this crap.
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