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Hello everyone,
I'm new to this forum and hoping to find some advice from those who may be experiencing similar challenges.
My 90-year-old mother has dementia, affecting her short-term memory, but she remains physically active. She can wash and dress herself, prepare simple meals, and do light housework. Despite being healthy and able to walk a mile, she struggles with grocery shopping and could easily get lost if she didn't follow the same route to the corner store.
My 54-year-old brother, John, has lived with her for about 25 years, and their relationship is co-dependent. Unfortunately, John has never contributed financially to household expenses like groceries or car insurance.
Her specialist has stressed the importance of her attending adult daycare for social interaction and mental stimulation. However, she is strongly resistant to this idea and can become quite angry when John tries to take her. I believe part of her reluctance stems from her fear of losing independence, as she insists that her memory "isn't that bad."
I live about two hours away and do my best to support them by preparing monthly meals, managing doctor appointments, and doing grocery shopping every six weeks. I visit for a few days every six weeks and would like to have my mom stay with me for a couple of weeks but my mother makes excuses as to why she can’t stay with me, primarily focusing on John.
I'm reaching out to this community for advice on how to approach my mother about attending daycare. How can I and John encourage her to go, especially when she strongly refuses? What strategies have worked for you in similar situations? Any insights or personal experiences would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you!Nicole

To start with, don't use the term 'daycare' when talking to your mother. Say the senior center is offering a social hour for independent seniors on certain days. Have your brother go with her a few times until she feels comfortable and gets to know a few people. Have him go with her once or twice a week for a couple hours at first. Then he won't have to go after that.

I did elder care for many years and often attended adult daycare with some of my care clients when they first started going. Then they're fine on their own. It's kind of like when a kid starts daycare or school. It's a little bit hard at first to be separated from their parent, but then they get into it. You'll see.

Or you can hire a homecare companion a few hours a week to spend time with your mother and to take her out shopping or other places. A paid companion a few hours a week can take her to programs at the local Senior Center if there is one. This will cost less than adult daycare if you hire privately. I had assignments like this where a person was still independent and just needed a bit of socialization. No bathing, incontinence, or back-breaking hands-on work. Just going out to lunch or other places and they were great.

There's choics for your mom. Your brother may have to step up a bit though.
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Adult Daycare Centers are great resources for folks suffering with any level of dementia, and most folks LOVE it.
They offer breakfast, lunch and a snack, have different activities everyday, and even have spa days once a week for those needing a haircut or shower. And you can bring her 5 days a week up to 8 hours per day.
In all honesty she would probably enjoy herself if she would just give it a try.
And some people that I know have had to tell their loved ones that they were going to the daycare to volunteer as they were really needing the help.
And one wife told her husband that he was being hired to work there and at the end of the week, his wife would hand the worker at the daycare a $20 bill when she dropped him off, that they would then give her husband at the end of his week, so he thought that he actually was getting paid. It worked like a charm.
Best wishes in getting your mother to at least give it a try, as I'll bet money that she's love it.
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SandwichGen15 Jan 23, 2025
"And one wife told her husband that he was being hired to work there and at the end of the week, his wife would hand the worker at the daycare a $20 bill when she dropped him off, that they would then give her husband at the end of his week, so he thought that he actually was getting paid. It worked like a charm."

I love this!! <3
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To be honest, this angers me. I cannot imagine a real doctor doing such a thing. How incredibly cruel. I am 82. NO ONE better EVER try to tell me I should go here or there for social interaction. I think this doctor is a nut job, myself. How DARE he presume to know what a 90 year old woman needs or wants at the end of her life in terms of going to someplace and watching a bunch of OTHER 90 year old women discuss their multiple aches and pains. What a dreadful suggestion. Sure glad he didn't make it in MY presence.

Sorry. That's my honest personal opinion.
As to this brother, if he is living with his 90 year old mom and caring for her, watching over her, it is HE who should be paid, and I would advise him to get a good attorney and a care contract done up.

Let this 90 year old woman make the FEW decisions she can still make for herself would be my honest recommendation. Please give her the dignity of at least that.
I think it is cruel to force people into "social interaction" because some silly doctor suggests it. What does he THINK? That if she does this she will live another 100 years. I am sorry, I am ticked off at him, and to be honest I can't IMAGINE anyone listening to him. She said no. To me that is a full sentence with a period after it. Or in my case, an exclamation point!
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ElizabethAR37 Jan 21, 2025
As a lifelong committed introvert, I SO agree! I can think of few things less appealing than spending several hours daily in a roomful of strangers trying to "interact". To be clear I'm sure that many older adults attend and enjoy senior centers--actually, my 95 Y/O spouse's 64 Y/O son totally enjoys playing pool at our local facility--but it's not for me, at least not as long as I have sufficient marbles to make a choice.
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Adult Day Care sounds harsh and demeaning.
Senior Center sounds more inviting.

Doctor ordered "socialization" sounds weird and like a science experiment.
Opportunity to make friends sounds more inviting.

Activities for seniors with dementia sounds like busy work.
Classes and activities sounds more like going to the Y.

Change the semantics. Offer to go with her to a session - or ask brother to stay with her for an hour or 2 - and see if she warms up to this opportunity.
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If I’m John, I advise mom that I’ve taken a volunteer position at the senior center. Mom is free to go with him to “work” and if not, mom’s going to have to live by herself for however many hours he “volunteers.”

Nothing Wrong with using a fiblet.
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Have you explained to Mom her MD has suggested it? It is not "losing her independence" but more the opposite, giving her some outside social interaction, plus something new to do. If Mom was that bad, she wouldn't get to go there?

Maybe turn it around from what expectation she is having? Making it be a new opportunity to get out (in a safe environment)? Maybe calling it something else besides "daycare" which sounds like she is being treated like a child?

Maybe tell her it's a "crafts class" or similar entertainment for seniors? She's in great physical shape for 90, maybe other seniors would like to hear her tips, or how she does it? Maybe ask her to try it out once, and see what she thinks?

My normal 74 year GF attends mosaic classes at the local senior center and loves it. She makes it a priority and has made beautiful art and met some great people.
Worth a shot. With dementia, you may have to use "fiblets."
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SandwichGen15 Jan 23, 2025
"With dementia, you may have to use "fiblets."

ABSOLUTELY!!
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My Mom was pretty easy it was just having her 24/7 was too much for me. I have a split level house and her room was in the bottom level where the other bathroom was. She could see us up the stairs where the kitchen was. Once I sat down out of her eyesight, she would call for me. I got no sleep at night because she would get up. My husband and I, of course, had no time together. Daughter suggested daycare after a year of this.

The first day, we took her. As soon as we walked in an aide took her and sat her with a table of other women. My DH was the one who wanted to make sure she was OK. I had to coax him to leave. My thought, its just like taking a child to the first day of nursery school. You give them a kiss, a hug and say you will be back after work and go. When Mom is gone, they are OK. The next day Mom was picked up and dropped off by the DC bus. She told me I had to take her, I said no, the bus will. She ended up having a crush on the driver. He was really nice to her. The picked her up at 8am and brought her back at 3pm. That gave me time to get a shower and then my DH and I did something together. She was set up for Monday, Wednesday and Friday.
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MG8522 Jan 22, 2025
I think that's adorable about having the crush on the driver!
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I suggested Adult day care for getting my dad out of my mom’s hair for a few hours per day when he had dementia and she was having trouble coping. He spent a lot of time angry that he couldn’t do all the things that he used to do and he saw her as his jailer. In theory, it also would have given him something to do and think about other than watching the same movies over and over all day, interspersed with hiding food in drawers, hiding the mail from her, putting dirty dishes back on the shelves with the clean ones, etc. it might have given him some sense of an independent life. My mom was 100% opposed to putting him in AL or MC but this would have given her a few hours of peace a few times per week. It was not suggested by his doctor or for socialization — I suggested it and did all the research. It would have been nice if it had led to him having someone to interact with other than me and my mom.

I asked the staff how to introduce it and they said it could be described as a volunteer opportunity. In fact one of the people who attended believed he worked there, and would say “it’s shocking what a mess these craft drawers get into each day” and so on. So maybe this is a possibility for your mom? This place also did “make your own ice cream sundae” and cookie making and they had outdoor space and a real 1950s car (no engine) They had an old timey barber shop, diner, etc. to simulate how things were in the 1950/-1960s. I did take my dad for a trial afternoon and told him it was a center where he would be watching a movie and eating pizza (true). I think I also called it “a retirement center.” He also played a trivia game and did better than I would have guessed. But he still said he hated it, my mom would not insist he do it a few times to get used to it. So we dropped it. Good luck dealing with your mom, however it turns out.
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Just leave her alone. Let her do what she wants to do. She's 90. She has earned the right to not do anything.
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My mom's specialist also stressed the importance of socializing outside the family since it requires more skills. Mom didn't ever want to go to the local (and free) senior center but she did warm up to the memory club and all the activities and outings. She was opposed at first but I told her the doctor said it might help her and she just had to go a couple of times to see if she liked it. The first day was a tryout and there was a lot of brow furrowing and what is going on here and these people are very nice but I don't belong here. And the van picked her up the next time and we wrote it on her calendar and she continued to go. She enjoys it very much and it has become her main social outlet. She had also become mildly depressed and I think it helped with that as well.

I don't understand the outraged replies. The purpose of these places is to maintain cognition as long as possible so they continue living at home.
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