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Thank you Evamar ,

I am sorry that I inadvertently used a term . I have asked for forgiveness and said I would try to be more mindful .

I have also asked for some understanding that there was no intent to offend.

In return I was shamed and was told that I can not understand the trauma a family has gone through dealing with grieving over a family member’s death by suicide .
This is false .
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@casole

You can call me out by name. I am the one who refered to the woke nonsense and semantics.
No need for the passive/aggressive disrespect though. I do not and will not apologize for speaking plainly or using plain language. The great benefit of this is that I am very rarely if ever misunderstood. I call a spade a spade. If there are people that choose to live their lives being continuously offended by something, I say too bad. The world is going to be a very sad and unhappy place for people who get offended and all worked up over nothing or imagined nonsense.
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No, way to, I said I appreciate and thank you for saying you will be more mindful.

But keep derailing your own post so this caregiver is forgotten.

I already reported this post yesterday.
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Thank you, Casole, for reading my plain language and my plain intent and understanding that people shouldn’t walk around using old terms (for the people who are not wayto who tripled down on their right to use aged out terms that are offensive). Sure, people can use outdated offensive terms and they can triple down that they will still use those terms, but it only reflects badly on them.

Yes, language evolves.

Yes, language matters.

For the third time, I appreciate that Wayto said she will be more aware in the future and I thank her for posting that.
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Thank you, Mia Moore, for understanding my dissemination of information on how not to inflict more pain on those who are already suffering.

All they had to do was say, “Thank you for this information. I was not aware and I appreciate you looking out for me so that I don’t inflict pain on another person accidentally.”

And then this thread would have kept on topic about this poor woman who died by suicide because it’s that hard to caregive and how her 17 year old son will go through life. It’s so very hard getting left behind when someone dies this way.

Family and friends disappear because they don’t know what to say or do. We experienced this, so I’m helpfully letting people know what words to NOT use.
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I’m hopping off this thread now, so if I missed anyone else who understood me because it was so clear, and posted that you understand my point of view, I thank you also. 🙏🏻
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@ Bulldog ,

And you don’t think your post telling me that I don’t understand the trauma of death by suicide in a family is offensive ??

C’mon !!!

You had no idea what my experiences were .
And now you turn it back on me that by calling you out , I’m derailing my own thread.

I guess only some of us are willing to admit some responsibility here .

We all can’t be perfect all the time .
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Did you have to go out at 11 p.m. and have to look for the person who died? No. Then we both had traumatic experiences but they are not the same.

You can’t understand my trauma because you didn’t have to look for a deceased body.
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@ Bulldog .

Grief is not a contest . Yet your detailed posts about your family read as such .
Your bullying of people because you are grieving is inappropriate.
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Terrible & Tragic. Maybe the company needs to take this as a lesson to monitor their staff. I have a friend who volunteers as a counsellor. They as counsellors also get counselling to cope with giving counselling and the effects on them. I hope the suggestion goes to the correct people or if unions are available to take this tragic happening as not to have happened in vain.
There were prob enough cries for help that werent noticed. Even teams - they could have a check in weekly How are you doing all and go around the table (or phone) and listen to how people are doing. Maybe going forward it may help others.
That said your husband has received some terrible news maybe he needs to check in with counselling - that is hard to digest. I will light candle for the dear lady today and to all those affected. Best.
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