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My almost 83 yr old dad fell accidently an fractured his hip. Sense he's had surgery he is now in a Rehab to work on his leg moving better. Now my mom has an active POA an DPOA on our dad. I finally got my mom to change health insurances cause the one they were on wouldn't help them on nothing. So now the one they are on is helping with his rehab an they are helping with in home health care. Which is great cause now he's getting all the help he needs. However my half sister from Florida now wants to drive up an tell my mom what Drs he should be seeing or going to an what he needs to eat cause he has celiac disease. An today she basically called my mom an said she doesn't care about her POAs that she's taking dad to Florida an my mom said no your not. Last time I checked we are still married an I am his wife last I checked. My dad also is going blind an has been diagnosed by more then one dr for dementia. She also told my mom today that she refuses to accept that her dad has dementia. An that he's on the wrong meds an that basically my mom doesn't know her head from her butt was her words. We share the same dad different moms. An my dad is a kid of 13 an most his siblings have either died from cancer or Alzheimer's. So how she doesn't think he would get it eventually we don't know what she's thinking. He can't hardly walk even with therapy an she said well he needs to get shots for his bone an then he could walk a lot better. Plus he has no teeth cause the dentures he did have he refused to wear an his bottom Jaw we were told he is losing bone mass on his jaw so teeth won't fit my sister is also refusing to hear of that also. An we have talked to Drs about that an they all look at us like we can't accept he's getting old an he's beyond helpful far as his bones go cause he's basically skin an bones. An she told my mom today well I'm going to ask Dad if he wants to come stay in Florida with me. My question should I advise my mom to get an attorney before she gets up here. Cause she's in her 50s she hasn't seen our dad nor been with our dad in over 30+ years. Nor has she even made the effort to see him in 30+ years even when mom an Dad were homeless twice I called her an she wouldn't help. Yet she now wants to basically come to my parents house an tell my mom who what where an jump. So my question is should my mom be worried even though she has an active POA/DPOA?

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Yep we are calling for a attorney today cause we have about had it with playing her games. Today she was like when I get up there I wanna be able to talk to all his Drs lol. I said sis you have no legal rights to have you ever heard of HIPPA I'm pretty sure you have. An her reply doesn't matter he's my father🤦🤦🤦, I love how she speaks about herself in the singular as in he has no other kids,but her when ummm helloo there's 5 of us. So stressful. I hope things calm down after we find an attorney. An we already vowed once Dad is long passed we are writing that whole side of the family just off. I don't understand why people just love drama I don't get it why can't everyone just be civil.
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So the phone call today didn't go well at all she basically told my mom the the POA is not worth the paper it's wrote on. We advised her that she has a DPOA also an she said no no she doesn't she doesn't have that authority. I know it takes a lot an a lot of signatures to get a DPOa I said Yea well she has one no no she doesn't. She's abusing her power if she conned him into signing his rights away. Lol I said oh so you wanna take on his Drs an the lawyer that was there when Dad signed th papers. Well I know she's neglectibg her power if she won't allow him to move to Florida with me to get treatment on what he needs then yes she's abusing her power. I said sis she's not abusing her power you want him to have stuff done that is selective surgeries. An then say Medicare will cover it no they won't an when you reach a certain age they really don't cover much . I said I know I've been dealing with it with mom where have you been. So I finally hung up on her an I'm writing her off I told mom not to yet until we get an attorney. Cause if she wants a fight well she better come on then cause we aren't just rolling over. This is ridiculous I swear I envy family's that are all civil an the happy white picked fences.
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AlvaDeer Feb 12, 2025
YOU NEED AN ATTORNEY for options and you need it NOW and she needs locking out of your home meanwhile. You may need a restraining order.
And if you father is legally competent then she is right. A POA means ZERO.
GET AN ATTORNEY NOW.
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Yes, your mom should either call the sheriff and make a report of threat of kidnapping or she can also go to a lawyer who can send your half sister a non binding non threatening letter but with “cease and desist”
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Bulldog54321 Feb 11, 2025
In other words, paper trail all of this. Keep accurate and strong records of what she says and when she says it and from what means: phone, email, text etc.

Write down time, date, manner of contact and what she said.
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I'll bet you $100 sissy isn't leaving her armchair in FL. She's just an Armchair Critic who points out everything you're doing wrong, while she does nothing. Seen em a million times. She has had no contact with the man for 30 years, yet now she's all up in his business like she's a loyal daughter? Come ON. You were born at night, not last night.

And, if she does drag her sorry self to see you and takes dad, that's kidnapping as Cashew mentioned. Casually tell her you'll be calling the police to file a kidnapping charge on her. Be sure to get her car make and license plate number. Mom has POA and only mom says if he goes to FL.

Is there an inheritance she's sniffing after here? If not and she were to take dad for even a week, she'd be begging YOU to take him back! The dad she remembers is long gone now, dementia changes them dramatically.

Best of luck to you.
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mandy25 Feb 11, 2025
Lol that was funny how you put that. Nope she's one of those types that Google all this medical shit. An then she talks to you and tells you what everyone needs like she has a PhD when she doesn't even work. She talks to our dad an calls him every now an then an that's what's she's always done she's just never came to actually see him in over 30+ yrs I was in 9th grade when she actually came to see our dad. An far as inheritance goes no she just likes control. She lives in a multi-million dollar house an is in a law suit now trying to get money back from her husband's job that screwed him over. An now he's on disability waiting for a lung transplant cause he was a heavy drinker an abused prescription meds. An her husband is no better he was yelling in the background to basically show my mom how much shit they can put her thru. They are all a piece of work my dad's side just loves drama. Thanks for the advice.
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If your Dad is diagnosed with Dementia and your Mom is the POA, what your sister is threatening is Kidnapping, even if Dad gets in the car willingly. I would put up an order of protection against your Sister as she sounds a bit irrational.

many times a relative will show up at the end of life for someone that they never bothered to keep in contact with before and try to take control in order to finance themselves. Just a thought
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Since Mom has invoked her Durable POA, your sister will not be able to do anything. And that is probably a thing in every state. Me, I would not allow her in the house. So if she expects to stay at Moms, the answer is NO. Your Mom has a right to ban her if she feels threatened or it will upset Dad. Mom is in charge and she needs to have that attitude. As Alva pretty much said, a Wife trumps a child. It does not matter what Dad wants, he has been deemed incapable of making informed decisions. As his representative, Mom makes those decisions.
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mandy25 Feb 11, 2025
Thank you I will advise my mom this an my sister if she actually shows her face. She hasn't seen or even made the effort on coming up to see our dad sense I was like 13-14yrs old in the 9th grade. I pointed that out to her an she said that doesn't matter lol. I was like yeaaa ok if you say so. Thanks for the advice.
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Thanks for all the advice I will show my mom your replys. An no my dad is not competent. My mom had to have 2 Drs sign stating that he is not in sound mind in order to activate a DPOA for making his medical decisions for him. Which my half sister is basically telling my mom that doesn't matter. Which clearly it does matter we live in Michigan an she lives in Florida. An she basically thinks the laws in Florida are no different then the laws here. Which they definitely are nothing close to the same as Florida. So I really don't understand her logical way of thinking nor does my mom. I will keep ya updated on how it goes thanks for the info.
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Your mom rules. She has POA. Yes, see an attorney.
Your sister can be banned from entering their house or rehab. Notify rehab if sister is coming and ask them to refuse admittance. His POA (mom) has the power to do that.

You don't have to let sis into his home. If you do, let her know that she gets a certain time with dad and then she's ushered out. You can go to the police station and get a restraining order so that she is prohibited from being on his property, but that only ratchets up the anger, so I advise not to do that unless you absolutely must.

Video everything that seems like a problem. Keep your phone handy to video things and also to call for emergency help. 911 should be on your fast-dial list.
Take pictures too, not just videos.

If sister removes your dad and he is not mentally competent enough to give consent, that looks like elder abuse, kidnapping (a federal crime) and possibly other crimes. Ask the lawyer about this and what to do if it happens.
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Thanks oh I am calm I just feel bad for my mom cause she had to finally stand her ground with her on the phone today. An I felt really bad for my mom to the point she had my mom so upset she was near crying. An it takes a lot to get to my mom,but my sister knows how to push her buttons. So that's why I was just asking on here if anyone had any ideas on how a POA/DPOA works. Cause we have never had to go thru this so it's all new to us. An well my sister basically told my mom the POAs don't matter she will go by what her dad wants an says to her. So then my mom was worried an was like what good does a POA do if all people can do is walk up into your house an make demands. I said mom calm down don't get all upset I'm sure it doesn't work like that. Thanks for the replay I really appreciate it.
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AlvaDeer Feb 11, 2025
POA doesn't work if the elder is competent.
So let us say that your sister visited and had a calm visit with your Dad and he said "I would like to see another doctor about ___________whatever. Do you think we could find one together". Yes, your sister could help her father do that if he's competent.

Your sister doesn't sound reasonable. She has her fists raised before she has even assessed the situation. She has no right to do that. So take a cue from her. You can handle her calmly; that's great. You can discuss as a family; that's even better. Or she can be banned from the home if needed. Don't let her threaten you! Stand strong and certain.
GOOD LUCK, do DO update us. I hope to hear this went OK for you all.
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First of all, you need to calm yourself. Your anxiety is going to make all of this ever so much worse. Your mother is the POA and the next of kin. As the wife of her husband she is now the Lioness at the gate, and no amount of carrying on is going to make any of that different. If the sister becomes terribly out of control then there will need to be a restraining order to prevent her causing disruption in that household. So someone needs to let her know that
1. Mom is in charge and will make all decisions
2. These decisions will be explained to sister, but sister will not be changing them.
3. If sister causes disruption and dissention in this already beleaguered household then she will not be allowed to visit. If necessary she will be ushered from the home by police. If restraining orders are required they will be sought and implemented.

There needs to be no excitement, no raised voices, and no argument. This is one and done and over with. Limits need to be clearly set. Call 911 whenever it is needed to escort sister from the premises.

And in the name of all that's good, STAY CALM.
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