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Your profile says your mother’s primary problem is mobility. Is this who needs a second person added? I’ll assume she is the person who needs the second power of attorney. Is it for financial or medical, or both?
She can sign a new POA listing her new POAs at any time as long as she is competent and understands what she is doing.
That’s not the problem.
The problem for your mom is knowing exactly how to set this up. Does one act as POA and the second doesn’t come into play until the first dies or resigns?
Do both have power to act independently of one another or do both need to act in tandem?
While forms are available without using an attorney, it’s preferable to have an experienced attorney advise mom on the pros and cons of her decision.
My mother gave all four of her living children independent rights to act for her for medical and financial.
Most people would advise against this. It worked for us.
My inlaws had all four of their children as POA, listed as oldest to youngest to act for them.
The first two resigned and it fell to the third to take care of everything.
My aunt has a first and second POA listed and the second POA died. She has dementia but thankfully was competent enough to sign a new POA designating a new second POA.
I think a person should always have a second. It’s easy to do and could easily come into play.
We often say on this website that 40% of the caretakers pass away before their loved ones.
Not all caretakers are POAs but probably should be.
Why do you want to do this? It would have to be done legally but I think it might complicate issues. Both people might have to submit documents to companies wanting POA. If there is ever an opposing opinion the whole situation could be compromised. I could be wrong buy would think you need great clarity on possible ramifications down the line. If there is the thought that one of two parties might not easily survive the other then I guess it should be considered but a lawyer should advise. They know all possible complications.
Laws differ per state. I am not sure but, I think, an addendum can be done. I dint suggest 2 poa's though. From my own experience it makes obstacles if you can do this be sure it is clearly stated "and/or" not just "and" .
By proceeding, I agree that I understand the following disclosures:
I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
VI. No Waiver of Your Rights.
APFM does not (and may not) require or even ask consumers seeking senior housing or care services in Washington State to sign waivers of liability for losses of personal property or injury or to sign waivers of any rights established under law.
I agree that:
A.
I authorize A Place For Mom ("APFM") to collect certain personal and contact detail information, as well as relevant health care information about me or from me about the senior family member or relative I am assisting ("Senior Living Care Information").
B.
APFM may provide information to me electronically. My electronic signature on agreements and documents has the same effect as if I signed them in ink.
C.
APFM may send all communications to me electronically via e-mail or by access to an APFM web site.
D.
If I want a paper copy, I can print a copy of the Disclosures or download the Disclosures for my records.
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This E-Sign Acknowledgement and Authorization applies to these Disclosures and all future Disclosures related to APFM's services, unless I revoke my authorization. You may revoke this authorization in writing at any time (except where we have already disclosed information before receiving your revocation.) This authorization will expire after one year.
F.
You consent to APFM's reaching out to you using a phone system than can auto-dial numbers (we miss rotary phones, too!), but this consent is not required to use our service.
Is this who needs a second person added?
I’ll assume she is the person who needs the second power of attorney.
Is it for financial or medical, or both?
She can sign a new POA listing her new POAs at any time as long as she is competent and understands what she is doing.
That’s not the problem.
The problem for your mom is knowing exactly how to set this up. Does one act as POA and the second doesn’t come into play until the first dies or resigns?
Do both have power to act independently of one another or do both need to act in tandem?
While forms are available without using an attorney, it’s preferable to have an experienced attorney advise mom on the pros and cons of her decision.
My mother gave all four of her living children independent rights to act for her for medical and financial.
Most people would advise against this.
It worked for us.
My inlaws had all four of their children as POA, listed as oldest to youngest to act for them.
The first two resigned and it fell to the third to take care of everything.
My aunt has a first and second POA listed and the second POA died. She has dementia but thankfully was competent enough to sign a new POA designating a new second POA.
I think a person should always have a second. It’s easy to do and could easily come into play.
We often say on this website that 40% of the caretakers pass away before their loved ones.
Not all caretakers are POAs but probably should be.