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My husband is getting more and more controlling. He has always been a controlling person but it is worse now. Is this normal? Do I address it to him or let it go?
So often people describe others as "controlling" when actually the controller is stating only what he or she wants for him or herself, and the person describing resents feeling responsible for making it happen. That's a bit different.
Only I wouldn't call your husband's behaviour (as opposed to your husband, whom I've never met and wouldn't presume to criticize) controlling. I would call it frankly abusive, and I think the time has already come for you to protect yourself. What are your options?
Again as an aside, I often suspect that when people say mental or emotional abuse is worse than physical abuse they only think so because they've never experienced physical abuse, or not protracted, ongoing fear of physical violence at least. But you give a good example of the opposite argument. You are on high alert from waking to sleeping, and this kind of mental stress must have its physical effects.
Can you imagine being without it? How would that feel, to wake and know that your day is your own? Contrast that with the present reality to see how serious your situation has become.
Dementia usually increases pre-existing bad behaviors, so yeah, that's normal.
But you don't have to take it.
Go stay at a hotel for a week and let him take care of himself (without asking permission of course).
Cook meals that he hates (preferably ones that stink up the house too) and refuse to make him anything else. Let him go hungry.
Can't control him but you can control yourself. Frankly, I'd start talking to a divorce attorney. No spouse should talk to another like that, and dementia is no excuse for abuse.
My very wise Dad once told me that the strongest personality trait in a person will get magnified as they get older. My dad was extremely kind, so when he was getting older then dying, he became even more kind. My mother was never abusive or controlling, but she could get a little "crunchy" at times. With dementia, all filters departed and she was VERY crunchy. She was also very loving to those she loved, and that became magnified, too, but as she was in a memory care facility surrounded by people she didn't exactly love, the crunchiness prevailed.
In short, yes, controlling people will likely get more controlling.
From your added information to BarbBrooklyn I would address this with his doctor. There are medications that can help with anxiety. It might take a while to get the correct drug and dose but it would be worth it.
You can't address it with him because he may no t even realize his wording or phrasing. It is almost like a Third Person You do mention one thing I am concerned about though. "God forbid if I don't have that item on hand" What would happen? What would happen if you did not make the meal he wanted?, watch the show he wanted you to watch?, stop and get a burger on your way home? If any of these or any other would lead to violence to you then it is a matter of your safety and you HAVE to take care of yourself. And do not think that if he has never been violent or physical previously that that will remain the same. Dementia is unpredictable and you do not know what parts of the brain have been damaged, destroyed. Protect yourself.
My daughter's advice as well. "Get out if he gets physical. Our door is open." He has never physically abused me. If it happens, yes, I will be out the door.
I would let him go not let it go as you said in your original post.
If there is any way you can safely leave this situation I would do it. Dementia is not an excuse and sounds like as you said he has always been controlling. Do you really want to spend the rest of your life like this? Put yourself first.
Self sacrificing to the point where you are heart sick with stress isn't noble you know. It's good to be supportive of those you love (do you still love him?) but there is a limit. If loving someone means tolerating whatever they hand out to your own detriment then I'd say it's better to not have loved and risk losing oneself.
Graygrammie, I agree with others that your husband’s abusive behavior is harming your body as well as your mind. And, reading between the lines, I would guess that his behavior didn’t start when he got diagnosed with dementia, but rather, to some degree, he has always treated you this way.
Someone who uses abusive behavior to control others follows a pattern that is predictable. Unfortunately it is predictable that the most dangerous and likely time for encountering physical violence from an abuser is when you try to leave or “rebel” against his attempts to control you.
Therefore, please don’t announce to him that you are going to take any actions to protect yourself (such as leaving) if you decide to do so. Instead, keep your plans to yourself, get advice from staff at a women’s shelter, and let them help you plan a safe way to leave.
Remember, if he is physically able to do anything at all for himself, then he is physically able to harm you when he sees that his attempts to control you aren’t working. He will up his mental game to physical violence to maintain control if he thinks he needs to.
I learned all this from experience and from abuse counseling. You can make it work with advice and support from shelter staff, even if you don’t need to stay at a shelter. These people care and have resources. Just call them.
I hope you are able to get help to change your situation, because your life is not over yet, and you deserve some happiness.
Ask yourself this: would you tolerate this abuse from the man if he did not have dementia?
I'm sure the answer would be No, as any rational person wouldn't put up with such a thing.
So, why are you putting up with such abuse NOW? Dementia is no excuse to be abused to THIS degree. It's not okay. Even if he "can't help it" and "doesn't mean it" and it's "due to the disease", this abuse will wind up killing YOU before the dementia kills HIM.
Get him placed in Memory Care Assisted Living right away or move in with your daughter who's door is always open or SOMETHING. What's going on here is wrong on every level and has to stop immediately! He's your husband and you love him and he's sick but HE'S TORTURING YOU. This is exactly how and why love turns to hate, you typed it all out.
You did your best and there's no more you can do now. Next time he starts screaming, call 911 and have him shipped off to the ER. Get him a psych evaluation and refuse to take him back home when they want to release him. It's time to cry uncle.
There is no such thing as "just" laying down some ground rules and sticking to them, as if you could have fixed this super-simple little problem long ago if only you'd used your noggin, gee, silly me! There's nothing simple about FTD dementia, it's something the medical community scratches their heads about! And there's nothing simple or easy about fixing abuse women suffer or we would have fixed it eons ago, ffs. Some things aren't fixable and that's something we have to acknowledge before it puts us into an early grave for refusing to! Take this seriously, and not like a little bit of silly fluff some will make it out to be!
GG, I have never heard of a situation in which I was 98% certain that the caregiver would predecease her charge, but this it it, I assure.
You are setting yourself up for a stroke or a heart attack from the abuse you are enduring.
Do you think he would call 911 if you were laying on the floor? Something tells me no.
Look, from what you've described, your husband was mentally ill before he developed dementia. If you leave now, he will be able to live somewhere with good medical and psychiatric care. Which is what he needs.
On my book, tbrowing food on the floor IS physical.
My mom went through a long phase of trying to manipulate and control me. It was early on. Now she is back to reasonable behavior. I would stand my ground but not argue. I did what was safe for her even when she wanted it different. Good Luck..tough job.
It sounds like a living nightmare for you and anyone else that has to witness his behavior. It is traumatic to imagine anyone existing in that relentlessly toxic environment. At this point it is unlikely that he is aware of his behavior, I would imagine if he was nicer or more polite to someone it would just be a way to manipulate them into doing things for him. Advise his doctor of the situation and maybe they can prescribe an anti-anxiety medication or perhaps examine his current prescription - my aunt was on Galantamine and after speaking to her Neurologist he had her switch to Donnatal because she was becoming unmanageable and similar toxic controlling behavior. Good luck.
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So often people describe others as "controlling" when actually the controller is stating only what he or she wants for him or herself, and the person describing resents feeling responsible for making it happen. That's a bit different.
Only I wouldn't call your husband's behaviour (as opposed to your husband, whom I've never met and wouldn't presume to criticize) controlling. I would call it frankly abusive, and I think the time has already come for you to protect yourself. What are your options?
Again as an aside, I often suspect that when people say mental or emotional abuse is worse than physical abuse they only think so because they've never experienced physical abuse, or not protracted, ongoing fear of physical violence at least. But you give a good example of the opposite argument. You are on high alert from waking to sleeping, and this kind of mental stress must have its physical effects.
Can you imagine being without it? How would that feel, to wake and know that your day is your own? Contrast that with the present reality to see how serious your situation has become.
But you don't have to take it.
Go stay at a hotel for a week and let him take care of himself (without asking permission of course).
Cook meals that he hates (preferably ones that stink up the house too) and refuse to make him anything else. Let him go hungry.
Can't control him but you can control yourself. Frankly, I'd start talking to a divorce attorney. No spouse should talk to another like that, and dementia is no excuse for abuse.
In short, yes, controlling people will likely get more controlling.
I would address this with his doctor.
There are medications that can help with anxiety. It might take a while to get the correct drug and dose but it would be worth it.
You can't address it with him because he may no t even realize his wording or phrasing. It is almost like a Third Person
You do mention one thing I am concerned about though.
"God forbid if I don't have that item on hand"
What would happen?
What would happen if you did not make the meal he wanted?, watch the show he wanted you to watch?, stop and get a burger on your way home?
If any of these or any other would lead to violence to you then it is a matter of your safety and you HAVE to take care of yourself.
And do not think that if he has never been violent or physical previously that that will remain the same. Dementia is unpredictable and you do not know what parts of the brain have been damaged, destroyed.
Protect yourself.
If there is any way you can safely leave this situation I would do it. Dementia is not an excuse and sounds like as you said he has always been controlling. Do you really want to spend the rest of your life like this? Put yourself first.
Self sacrificing to the point where you are heart sick with stress isn't noble you know. It's good to be supportive of those you love (do you still love him?) but there is a limit. If loving someone means tolerating whatever they hand out to your own detriment then I'd say it's better to not have loved and risk losing oneself.
Someone who uses abusive behavior to control others follows a pattern that is predictable. Unfortunately it is predictable that the most dangerous and likely time for encountering physical violence from an abuser is when you try to leave or “rebel” against his attempts to control you.
Therefore, please don’t announce to him that you are going to take any actions to protect yourself (such as leaving) if you decide to do so. Instead, keep your plans to yourself, get advice from staff at a women’s shelter, and let them help you plan a safe way to leave.
Remember, if he is physically able to do anything at all for himself, then he is physically able to harm you when he sees that his attempts to control you aren’t working. He will up his mental game to physical violence to maintain control if he thinks he needs to.
I learned all this from experience and from abuse counseling. You can make it work with advice and support from shelter staff, even if you don’t need to stay at a shelter. These people care and have resources. Just call them.
I hope you are able to get help to change your situation, because your life is not over yet, and you deserve some happiness.
I'm sure the answer would be No, as any rational person wouldn't put up with such a thing.
So, why are you putting up with such abuse NOW? Dementia is no excuse to be abused to THIS degree. It's not okay. Even if he "can't help it" and "doesn't mean it" and it's "due to the disease", this abuse will wind up killing YOU before the dementia kills HIM.
Get him placed in Memory Care Assisted Living right away or move in with your daughter who's door is always open or SOMETHING. What's going on here is wrong on every level and has to stop immediately! He's your husband and you love him and he's sick but HE'S TORTURING YOU. This is exactly how and why love turns to hate, you typed it all out.
You did your best and there's no more you can do now. Next time he starts screaming, call 911 and have him shipped off to the ER. Get him a psych evaluation and refuse to take him back home when they want to release him. It's time to cry uncle.
There is no such thing as "just" laying down some ground rules and sticking to them, as if you could have fixed this super-simple little problem long ago if only you'd used your noggin, gee, silly me! There's nothing simple about FTD dementia, it's something the medical community scratches their heads about! And there's nothing simple or easy about fixing abuse women suffer or we would have fixed it eons ago, ffs. Some things aren't fixable and that's something we have to acknowledge before it puts us into an early grave for refusing to! Take this seriously, and not like a little bit of silly fluff some will make it out to be!
Wishing you courage, good luck and Godspeed
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You are setting yourself up for a stroke or a heart attack from the abuse you are enduring.
Do you think he would call 911 if you were laying on the floor? Something tells me no.
Look, from what you've described, your husband was mentally ill before he developed dementia. If you leave now, he will be able to live somewhere with good medical and psychiatric care. Which is what he needs.
On my book, tbrowing food on the floor IS physical.
Advise his doctor of the situation and maybe they can prescribe an anti-anxiety medication or perhaps examine his current prescription - my aunt was on Galantamine and after speaking to her Neurologist he had her switch to Donnatal because she was becoming unmanageable and similar toxic controlling behavior. Good luck.
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