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Content alert: LGBTQIA+/ autism-friendly/allies only, please. My husband and I are 60+/- years old. I oversee the care of my 87-yr-old mother, who is in a nearby continuing care place. She has constant pain from severe arthritis, late-onset scoliosis, & inflammation from an immune disorder. She is incontinent and has IBS, high anxiety & mild OCD. In addition, we have young adult children in their 20s who still need guidance. Our eldest is on the autism spectrum & will likely live with us for a few more years until they can confidently live independently. We also have an LGBTQIA-identifying child who does not feel comfortable in our home state. My husband & I are finally at a place professionally when we could step back to part-time work and move. I have emotionally cared for my parents since I was 12; my only sibling is 6 years older and has lived abroad for 35 years. He visits occasionally & does his best to help my mom when here, but we have never been very close.My husband & I started talking about moving a few years ago, both for retirement & as a possibly improved situation for all our kids. In the meantime, both my husbands’ parents and my dad passed on. My remaining mom is introverted, a bit difficult (judgmental, passive-aggressive), but also in chronic pain, which I know is super-challenging. Now, my husband and I have found a house that is actually affordable - no small thing - in a New England state we prefer. But we would have to make an offer this week-even if we held off on moving until next spring. But. I finally got up my nerve to tell my mom last fall that we were “thinking about” the advantages of a move, and she gave me a line about “don’t worry about me,” “take care of your family,” yada yada; I didn’t believe a word of it. She totally depends on me. In a more recent visit, when I said we would be traveling for a week in order to check out a couple different states (before we found the house online) she said, “You’re not REALLY planning to move, are you?” And there it was. Always the emotional manipulation. I told her it wasn’t imminent but made no promises. Then she told me that she knows “it’s a difficult situation,” - meaning for our one LGBTQ kiddo. I feel like I am being forced to choose between my family and her. That’s a horrible feeling. I can tell my spouse and kids are getting angsty. Like so many women here, I am feeling resentful of my mom for what feels like her manipulating my adult life and choices for the umpteenth time while also feeling guilty about stressing her or possibly telling her that, yes, I’m sorry, but we feel it’s best if we move. (We don’t live in her “home” state; my parents followed me here when they retired.)I don’t presume that moving at 87 or 88 is easy; I do realize that. I know it isn’t in her best interests. I also didn’t create the current political and social environment that makes my kids uneasy to livewhere we do. I’m considering telling my mom that we’re moving in one year and just giving her the choice of staying here or letting us find a new, nice community for her in the new state. Is that cruel? Should my husband and I just wait it out not knowing how long that might be? We probably would if the political/social situation was different, but we have to face the reality of our situation. Our kids need supportive communities. Heck, my husband and I do, too! I absolutely hate feeling like I have to make a choice between my kids and my mother but my heart will always choose my kids. Advice appreciated.

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Which state are you moving to? MAand CT have good programs for assisting disabled adults with autism in working in the community. For elder communities, MA models offer social well being, but CT has a more medical model when it comes to senior living tiers. That is if you can convince mom to move near you. Unless continuing care means that mom put in a big chunk of money for her to age in place as she gets worse. Both states are fairly tolerable of LGBTQ
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I would 100% support your child and move to a blue state. Absolutely. You mother will have to move also and tough if she doesn’t like the idea.

I’m excited you found a house!
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You and your husband have the right to choose your adult children over your mom, but I would also have no illusions that going to a more neurodivergent or trans “friendly” state will fix all their problems.
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Cbk112 Feb 17, 2025
With all due respect, my kids do not have “problems” that need to be “fixed.”
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I would move. You have given Mom a choice and she chooses to stay where she is. Once your settled in the new place, thrn start reseaching places for Mombin uour area. She will change her mind once you have moved and aren't there for her anymore.
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Cbk112 Feb 17, 2025
Thank you.
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When the choice is between your parents and your children, then your obligation is to the welfare and well-being of the new generation.
That is how it works. You take care of your children who take care of THEIR children who take care of THEIR children.
Think about it. If this were YOU would you not understand this move? Support it?
Of COURSE you would miss you child and grandchildren.
Of course you would be sad. And you should be able to be sad and to express that sadness without anyone "resenting" you for it.

Your mom has a choice few have. She can move to another community (if she is happy in her community with her current "family" I think the wiser choice would be to stay and have you visit).
Or she can move and you will assist her finding a new community.

This would be the "normal" way to go about things. Do understand that likely 50% of the population has no children living near to them.
In my own case I have a daughter who is three states away. That is the norm, and in many ways that is better for the children. I am 82. That is the way I expect this to continue. When I move into care I will do so in my own community and that will be my new "family".

You say you resent your mother for your feelings of discomfort in this. That isn't fair. You are responsible for your own feelings.
Not everything is 100% perfect in life. You are doing what you feel is best for your IMMEDIATE nuclear family. That is your right and your obligation. Will you be sad to be far away? Of course. Will she? Most naturally. Since when was life all about happy-all-the-time? That isn't how real life works at all.

Make your plans. Make your exciting new move. I hope it is all your family could wish for. It will be or it won't. But again, that's life. Best wishes to you all. Mom has her home and her community. She will be as OK as she can be given her disabilities and her age.
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Cbk112 Feb 17, 2025
This is reassuring, thank you.
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Tell mom you are moving.
Tell mom ..."sorry I won't be able to visit as often. I will visit as much as I can once we get settled. You know that we can order anything you need and that the staff here will take care of you. If you change your mind and want to move we can look for a place near our new home"
Your children and husband come first.
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Your husband and children must ALWAYS come before any parent. Period, end of sentence. So make that offer on that house NOW!!!
And don't look back. Your mom will be just fine. She is NOT your responsibility, only your husband and children are.
Best wishes in doing what you feel is best for your immediate family(not your mom).
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Cbk112 Feb 17, 2025
Thank you; the support here is reassuring.
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Make an offer on that house . You have to think of your kids first .

Give Mom the choice to stay or move near you to a facility . Ignore her guilt trips . You did not make Mom old or in need of care , you are guilty of nothing .

Don’t put your life on hold any longer . Keep looking at houses if you don’t get that one this weekend . It can take awhile to find a home these days . Move as soon as you find a suitable home .

DO NOT move Mom in with you , even temporarily . Mom can be moved to a facility after you’ve settled in and a bed opens up for her , should she choose to move . Perhaps not moving her right away ( having some distance ) will allow her to truly determine if she prefers to stay where she is or not once you have moved already .
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Cbk112 Feb 17, 2025
Thank you! We may not get the one house-as you say, the market is tough-but we have determined to get organized and keep at it. The reassurance and support has been so helpful. Thank you!
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There's nothing to say she can't stay where she is after you move and then when she's mentally and emotionally ready (and lonely) she may want to move near you willingly and (maybe) without drama -- and by that time you'll have had time to settle in with your kiddos and will be "readier" to resettle her.

It may be a good idea to hold off moving her until you're in your new community, anyway. Then you can join Nextdoor.com and post an ISO Recommendations for a good elder care facility. This will save you lots of effort doing first level research.

What level of care is your Mom currently in? IL? AL? LTC? If she's in LTC you may need to work out logistics of moving someone who may not be suited to fly or be driven. Would she need a medical transport?

FYI your spouse and kids are your first priority, not your Mom, and she's not equal priority, either. This doesn't mean you don't love her and care about her. But this proper priority is what will keep your marriage healthy and your mental and emotional health as well.

For now, stop talking to her about it if all she's going to do is poop on it. Change the subject, walk out, whatever it takes. In psychology this is called "extinguishing" a behavior. If you do it consistently (and never acknowledge her manipulating and inappropriate comments) she will get confused, then frustrated enough that she will actually voluntarily stop saying that crap to you. Are you sure she doesn't have the beginnings of dementia? She's certainly at an age where it can start. A broken filter is one of the more obvious symptoms.

You cannot be manipulated unless you allow it. I respectfully suggest you consider therapy so you can better identify boundaries and learn how to defend them.

I wish you all the best as you move to your new home state.
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Cbk112 Feb 17, 2025
Thank you. I’ve had therapy and have better boundaries than I used to; I’m very empathic — even according g to my therapist — so it is just an ongoing challenge. The reassurance here is very helpful, and the idea of taking a deep breath and possibly moving her after we do actually never occurred to me and is lowering my blood pressure. One step at a time.
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Your mother is already in a care facility. If (no WHEN) you move she can chose to stay where she is, or to move to another care facility near to you. She told you to “take care of your family”, and you know that should be your priority. Why not ‘believe a word of it’? Take her at her word, and sign up for the house before she changes her tune.

Talk through her own options with her. As she moved to be near you before, it's only fair to help her through this move as well.
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Slartibartfast Feb 17, 2025
As Margaret says go ahead and take her words at face value. Even if she's manipulating you by saying one thing and meaning another whose fault is that? She might learn to say what she means, she might not, either way she's telling you to do what's best for you and yours. Do so.
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Your mother is in a community receiving the care that she needs. You and your family want to move. You can still be involved in your mother's care, from a distance. Don't let her guilt-trip or manipulate you. Is it fair to deprive your husband and children of settling their lives where they want to be, because your mother -- what? Guilt-trips you? So what if she tries to? That is what is cruel. Don't fall for it. Make the offer on the house.
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Cbk112 Feb 17, 2025
Thank you for the support!
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I am sorry you are in this situation. You need to look out for your kids first. I suggest you make the offer on the house. If it gets accepted, great! But take a several months to work out the details and help your mom come to terms with it before you move. But set a firm deadline so it’s clear she can’t stop you. Be sure she understands this is in the best interest of your kids. If your mom is in a CCRC, she should have care options available to her. Or maybe when she accepts the move is real, she will agree to move to another CCRC. Would you still be close enough to visit once a month and check on her care? You don't have to make a choice, you can do what’s right for your family while still staying involved with her care, just not as closely. Maybe if you start to explore options with your mom for her care (both at her existing CCRC and closer to your new home), she will see the light and participate. If not, move forward and make the best decisions you can for her. But don’t regret it.
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Cbk112 Feb 17, 2025
Thank you; all your responses are really helping me just breathe and turn to breaking the decisions down into smaller, more manageable pieces. I think it gets harrowing trying to think of the whole scenario all of a piece, and I like the idea of just planning a move, keeping her informed, and then we’ll see how it goes.
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