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My grandmother was just released from the hospital with only 2 days of notice. My grandfather hasn't had the time nor the money to get a ramp large enough for her to get into and out of the house because it's a 36 inch rise and those ramps cost thousands of dollars. Is there a way to get her to doctors appointments? The hospital scheduled a follow up in 2 weeks.

Hi, there are many senior services which provide transpo. You state info agency can provide more info on this.
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It may be time to talk with your grandfather about moving into an assisted living facility. He may not be in favor of that, yet you can make it clear that while you don't mind helping them, there's just much that you're physically capable of doing.
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How generous of grandpa to designate you as unpaid caregiver. Both need to be told it is no longer about what they want but what is needed.
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You might also try to see if the doctor offers virtual or telephone visits due to her disability. If not, find a doctor who does. These types of visits were an option during Covid and some doctors still offers them. Also, getting home health care services for her might allow health care providers to come to her home to assess her and provide that information to the doctor who then orders the necessary treatments for her.
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I am so sorry you have been put in this situation. Your grandparents are in denial of the amount of care your grandmother needs. Your grandfather thinks the family will rally to care for her, and your grandmother thinks she will get better at home.
The rehab facility may not be as top-notch as they would like, but it will give better rehabilitation than she will get at home. At home, she may receive therapy one to two times weekly. In rehab, she can have therapy daily. When my Mom was in rehab for 6 weeks she hated every bit of it, but she knew she had to get strong enough to do more for herself when discharged. If she was just discharged home from hospital, she wouldn't have any motivation to do therapy.
Your grandfather can be at the rehab facility daily to advocate for your grandmother and address whatever it is that upsets them about the facility.

As for getting her to follow up appointment, tell the hospital grandmother's situation and have them order home health ASAP. A nurse can assess her condition and give information to the doctor.
If it's a condition only a doctor can assess in folliw-up, then see if a medical transport company can take her on a stretcher. If the doctor signs their paperwork stating the transport is medically necessary, then hopefully Medicare will pay for it.
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Do you know anyone in construction? I don’t know where you are but my BIL and his friends have built ramps for friends and family for material cost only. Rural/small town groups/companies are real good about helping out.

Are you/they involved in any clubs or organizations? Lions, Masons? Church? PTA? Ask at work, school, wherever you, your kids, parents, or grandparents meet/
interact with other people. Appeal to them for help. Ask if they know anyone who can help.

Contact your local Area on Aging for available assistance. Try local contractors,
Local Facebook groups or the NextDoor App. Local biker groups (not big MC clubs) or HD groups are good about helping their own. Tell everyone you know about their needs. Tell the grocery clerk, the bank teller, waiter/waitress. The wider you network, the more people who know of the problem the more likely someone who can help will hear about it. Local TV or radio stations frequently do segments on people in hard situations. Call the Fire Dept or Hospital EMS and ask if they can do a courtesy transfer. Like a Fall call but instead of just getting them off the ground, they use the gurney to transfer from house to car. Does she have Mcare? Ask about Home Health visit as an option for follow up. The person at the hosp who set the follow up appt has no idea about her condition/limitations. Call the hospital back and explain and ask for referral to Social Services.

Set up a crowd fund. Post a notice at the laundromat. Ask the hospital Social Worker for referrals, ask the drs office. Mention it to everyone you know, meet or talk to.

God and/or the Universe help those who help themselves. Reaching out here is a good first step, now just expand on that. Wishing you/them best of luck.
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No. If she is bedridden a wheelchair ramp would be useless if she doesn't use a wheelchair. She would have to get to doctor's appointments by ambulance. An ambulance is also how she will be transported home when she's released from the hospital.

Her refusing to go to a nursing facility it's not her decision anymore. No one wants to go to one, but really there's no other choice here. Ask your grandfather how he would get your grandmother out in an emergency like a fire if there's no ramp and she's bedridden?

You can't take care of her. Caregiving for a bedridden person needs to be done by experienced caregivers. It is back-breaking work too. I know I did it for 25 years as employment. Your grandmother belongs in a nursing home at least until yout grandfather and family has worked out getting the care and equipment she needs to be care for at home.

A physical therapist has to come to their house and do an assessment of the home. Then whatever he says to do has to happen in order for your grandmother to safely come home and be cared for.

You, your grandfather, and other family members need to (for lack of a better term) gang up on grandma and tell her that her asinine stubbornness of coming home today will result in her being hospitalized within a couple days. There will be some kind of accident or incident because no one is prepared for her care needs at home and it will land her right back in the hospital and from there to a nursing home permanently.

Your grandfather and family have to be a bit tough on her now for her own good. The only place for your grandmother to safely be right now is a rehab or nursing home.
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How are you the one responsible for them, as a grandchild? Are you the only relative helping them out? What about their children, your parents, aunts, uncles, siblings? You have to tell the hospital there is no one able to take care of GM at home and if she and your GF refuse to consider rehab, you have to tell them you are not trained or physically/mentally strong enough or available enough to be a 24/7 caretaker. It will be unbelievably hard on you. She needs to go to rehab and you can visit her there even daily if you want to but you wont have to change her Depends all day that way or try to get her to a doctor on your own.
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Your grandparents both need to learn that the people needing care may not be able to call the shots. Grandma is “refusing to go to a SNF”, Grandpa “doesn't trust that hospital”, plus “had issues with a previous rehab facility and no longer trusts them”, plus now “he wants me to be an additional caregiver for her (unpaid)”. So they got her home, and now face the problems that they should have known it would bring.

This is not about time and money to build a ramp. It’s about GM and GP accepting that they can't get their own way unless they can organise it themselves. You need to walk away so that they can learn it.
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Check with your local center for aging or department of aging or elderly services. In our area, you can get the ramps installed for free depending on your financial situation.
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Since people miss updates because the arec"hidden" within responses, thought I'd post...

"That's where I'm getting to. My grandfather told me an hour ago that he wants me to be an additional caregiver for her (unpaid) but I'm against her being sent home at all until she has recovered enough to not need such specialized help. I know that I don't have good enough physical and mental health to take care of her how she needs to be taken care of."

So you tell granddad that No, you are not going to be grandmoms caregiver. She need more care than you have the ability to do. Its not fair for him to think you can do this for no pay. You have a life.
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Thank you for getting back to us. Please don’t take on a caregiving role that you know is not good for you or your grandmother. Hopefully, home health has been ordered and the folks that come out can assess the situation, provide assistance and call APS if necessary.
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Since your Grandfather thinks there's no problem with bringing her home, then everyone should back away and not help. This is so they both see she needs to be in rehab or LTC since all-hands-on-deck will now be required to care for her at home (showering, hygiene, meals...)

Is the inside of his home even big enough for her wheelchair? Is there a bedroom and bathroom on the same floor? Can she even get herself from the chair to the toilet?

Are your family members willing to orbit around them so that she doesn't go to rehab and remains in a wheelchair (unless they can get in-home PT and she does it)?

Lots to ponder...
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SapphicThrune Feb 13, 2025
That's where I'm getting to. My grandfather told me an hour ago that he wants me to be an additional caregiver for her (unpaid) but I'm against her being sent home at all until she has recovered enough to not need such specialized help. I know that I don't have good enough physical and mental health to take care of her how she needs to be taken care of.
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I would say she was brought home by ambulance.

Call your Office of Aging and see if they can help with a ramp. My friend was able to get one on loan. Meaning when he was done with it, it went back to the Office of Aging.

If Mom ends up in the hospital again, you can claim "unsafe discharge". Can GM use a wheelchair or completely bedbound? I would call Medicare (or if she has Medicare Advantage them) and ask if there is no way to get GM out of the house for this appt, will they cover a transport. I would also call the office where the appt is and ask if they have any recommendations. Maybe they can send out a Nurse Practioner.
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To answer your question first.
You can call for a medical Transport. They will take her to a van or a vehicle that looks like an ambulance. If she is in a Wheelchair it would be a wheelchair accessible vehicle if she is bedbound they would put her on a gurney and transport her. Give them detailed info when you call to arrange transport. Medical transport may be covered by her insurance so check that

She probably should not have been released to home if it is not safe to get her in and out of the house.

You can get an aluminum ramp that you can more easily more. I got one on line and it was reasonable. (you can also check a Farm Store and see if there are any ramps that might be used for getting animals into a truck. Or equipment like mowers onto a flatbed. )
You can also check with the local Senior Service center in their area and ask if there are any volunteers that could build a ramp.
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I think if Grandmother is now bedridden this may be time to consider palliative or hospice care, where the care comes to you, and it is comfort care. There are very few ways to get bedridden people in to appointments other than by ambulance transport which is enormously expensive (you may be talking 2,000 for transport EACH way.
Once debility is this severe, if there is choice to attempt all heroic measures and treatments for illness, then SNF placement, skilled nursing, is likely the answer. To be honest I don't think accessible ramps are the worse problem you would face, but your first attempt at such an appointment may be the "learning experience" required.
I sure do wish the best of luck to you.
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swmckeown76 Feb 13, 2025
It depends on where you live. In some places, ambulance service for local residents is available at no charge if it's a true emergency. It was in two different places where my late husband and I lived. One time we received a bill for ambulance services, but it was for the 20% that Medicare didn't pay (he was on early Medicare due to being on SSDI, but I wasn't able to obtain a Medicare supplement for him until close to his 65th birthday). I visited the office of the Fire/EMS service in the township where we lived at the time and asked why we owed the money, They said all of our ambulances were busy so we used a backup (the nearest municipality). If you lived there, the whole 100% would be covered and they wouldn't bill Medicare. So, of course, I paid the 20%. Once he was a private-pay long-term care resident, the local ambulance service would only pay for transportation to the closest hospital, which really wasn't that great of a hospital. My husband was very ill and I said I wanted him transferred to one of two academic medical centers in the area. The PA in the ER said I was doing the right thing. The transportation to my preferred hospital was abouyt $5K. I said I have a credit card with a $20K limit and it's nowhere near the limit. Put the ambulance fee on this credit card. That probably saved his life.
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Is there a reason that grandma wasn't released to rehab, rather than home?

I would call the Patient Advocate at the hospital and see if she can still be qualified for rehab.
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SapphicThrune Feb 13, 2025
My grandmother had issues with a previous rehab facility and no longer trusts them.
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How did she get into the house? You may need to use a medical transport service. Without more information it’s hard to answer your question but if home health has been ordered, a therapist can assess the situation. If not, request an order from her primary physician.
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SapphicThrune Feb 13, 2025
They haven't transported her yet. They're transporting her tomorrow.
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It sounds like you all should have refused discharge home until this is settled.
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SapphicThrune Feb 13, 2025
They told us yesterday that she's coming home tomorrow. I should've specified that in the post. I tried convincing my grandfather to refuse but he said he doesn't trust that hospital to keep her and she's refusing to go to a SNF.
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