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My mother has lived in an extremely cluttered and dirty old mobile home for 21 yrs. Before you ask, she won't let me touch anything. We’ve argued over it for years.


Since December of 2023, she has fallen and fractured an ankle in 3 places, fallen twice more and broken a hip. This past Christmas Eve, she suffered a ruptured aortic aneurysm. All required hospital and skilled nursing stays. Everyone, including her doctor, recommended assisted living. She refused.


I was recently able to talk her into going to stay with some friends of mine to get stronger. I have had my own heart issue last year and appealed to her kinder side, saying that worrying about her and what we'd been through this last year was adding undue stress that could be detrimental.


I looked at a handful of adult family homes and settled on the one that she agreed to go to. She thoroughly intends to go home, but that isn't going to happen. Her poor body (also extreme RA in her hands and feet) she can walk with a walker, but only with support and a wheelchair behind.


She will never get stronger. Her poor little body has just been through too much. Her home is NOT conducive to any walker. Everyone but her knows this. I am going to have to do away with the junk pile. It hurts my heart to hear her talk about going home. I just say, "uh huh."


How do I tell her at some point she's home to stay and that her mobile is, and/or will be going away? I will, of course, find all family moments and be compassionate (I am POA and POD). The home is in really bad shape and, aside from the functioning furnace, water heater, and a couple appliances, it should be dismantled.


I feel terrible for tricking her into her current stay, but she's being treated like a queen and I couldn't be happier that she appears content, for the time being anyway.

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I am 82. I cannot help but be upset that as we age people stop communicating with us and start communicating ABOUT us to everyone else.
Please do your mom the dignity to let her know that she cannot go home any longer, that this is home for her now, that you understand that this hurts her to the depths of her soul and that it pains you that she is in despair about this.

That's IT. Listen to her. Don't deny. Don't delay. Don't negate her pain.
This is the last loss until the loss of mind and life.
Why is this not worth mourning?
Why is this not worth our sympathy, our hugs, our tears?
And most of all, why is this woman not worthy of honesty?
Will she cry. Yes. Almost certainly.
If you wish, ask her if the two of you can discuss with her doc a mild antidepressant to see if that might help her at all. Tell her you know it is a band aid for the wounds of aging. But it's all you got.
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MiaMoor Mar 12, 2025
I would usually agree with what you say, but I'm not sure that a hoarder will be able to reach acceptance of the loss of their stuff. Knowing it's still there brings comfort.

I know the poster just said "clutter", but when clutter cannot be touched despite the health implications, then the person accumulating it has a hoarding mental health issue. My stepdad can't deal with the loss of any of his junk - he doesn't have any significant cognitive issues, but his mental health is fragile.

Personally, I'd wait awhile before deciding to be completely honest. It's possible that distance and time will make it easier for the mum to deal with the loss of her things, so that she doesn't fall into a deep depression.
Besides, the doctor saying that she isn't able to go back to an unsafe environment would be truthful.
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Something difficult that can happen in assisted living is that the child becomes the trigger for negative emotions and behavior. If she is being treated like a queen and seems content, it might actually benefit her if you reduce the amount of time you spend there for a while as she adjusts to the current place becoming her home. Work on clearing the junk pile, beginning with the things that are actually junk. Over time as she adjusts to the new home, you could try bringing her a few nice quality items and see if she accepts them into her new place. If so then you can do the same with other things that are worth salvaging. I wish you and her well. Let us know how it goes.
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Beethoven13 Mar 12, 2025
I think this is a good idea and what I was going to suggest. Bring her a few things from her mobile home that have meaning. And some that are just stuff. A coffee cup, a blanket or throw, a lamp, a few glasses, fry pan, coffee maker, a few framed photos and pictures, a pillow case, plant, a chair, etc, whatever. Whatever is salvageable and may have meaning to her. A side note: my late 80s year old parents house burned mostly to the ground in 2015. They were not as bothered as I thought they would be. I moved heaven and earth to rebuild it for them and it took a toll on me. In hindsight, I might have done differently.
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You more than likely will never convince her, so you can just continue telling her when she asks when she can go home, that as soon as her doctor says it's safe for her to return home you'll take her there, knowing full well that that will never happen.
And make sure that her doctor and you are on the same page.
I'm glad you found a nice place for her to live that you and your mom are both happy with.
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She’ll probably never agree to it. But she doesn’t understand her limitations anymore. While her opinions are valid, she is no longer able to call the shots here.
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You are a kind and loving daughter and the relief you must feel in finding your mom facility care that feels like she is “home” if only to you, is a great find. Good job.

Your post seems to be your wanting mom’s blessing that this plan to stay in the care home is best. That you need that blessing, that agreement, more than she needs the idea that she might go home one day. Is that it? I’m trying to understand your motivation.

Your mom sounds amazing to be walking at all with the injuries she’s had and perhaps still in pain. So she’s not refusing to participate and is cooperative and clearly needs the help. No doubt about any of that. You are doing what must be done and she is on board. What isn’t clear is just how hard this news will hit at this stage of her decline.

”Be it ever so humble, there is no place like home” quaint but never truer words were spoken.

Your mom is not concerned about safety. There is no safe place when death is near. Doubtful she was concerned with cleanliness or clutter. So I don’t think that will help you much in convincing mom. Maybe everyone else, but not mom.

She is concerned with you and the hard truth of a child’s mortality will motivate most mothers to sacrifice even their most prized comfort. You’ve already used that and it has worked so far.

So, I wouldn’t try to convince her of anything. Only show her that she is loved and not forgotten. Although, your very prescence might disturb her once she thinks her job is to convince you that she should go home. We see a lot of that on the forum. So be prepared for that. Maybe you are already there with her?

If your mom doesn’t have dementia, she will figure it out for herself that she isn’t going home. Even with dementia, she will most likely have moments of clarity and wonder where she is and why she is there and what happened to her home. Not that she would remember her home was gone or the conversation you are contemplating. Although shocking events do seem to linger.

Hope is a hard thing to lose. If one has to continue to live once health has gone, then to do it on one’s own terms is a prize almost unheard of these days. Drugs are a poor substitute but can help the patient present/remain “content”.

Do let us know how it goes. The only person I had to place had enough dementia to make life a bit softer on these type decisions. I will never forget the moments I knew that she realized what her life had become. I would have put those off forever if I could have. But all those sad thoughts lead back to remembering that when the heart is still pumping long past the body’s ability to perform ADLs we have to say good bye to luxuries like our own little mobile.

Ellen Langer says when we need to make a difficult choice, we can only presume that the choice we didn’t take would have been better. We have to manage the decisions we do make regardless of what they are.
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I have no answers here, but I do want to express my gratitude for the original post and answers. My situation is so similar, and it is very helpful to know I am not alone. My 83-year-old mother was living in hoarder clutter in a home that is likely a teardown (something I understand even better now that I've spent several weeks digging through it all). Her mobility has been limited for years following two knee surgeries and a broken arm. Then, she injured her ankle and couldn't remember how. She stayed with me, at the hospital, at rehab and then with me again over the course of 10 weeks. She has also been diagnosed with Alzheimer's. I found an assisted living facility where is she warm, fed and clean, surrounded by all of her own belongings and her cat. Even still, every conversation turns to "when I get back home" or "I hope you don't expect me to die here." Because she has dementia, I end up having this conversation every time I visit. I don't live near her permanently and I don't know how to manage the Alzheimer's, so this is the best solution. Still, she's my mother and yes -- I want her approval for what I've done. It's hard not to get it. It's hard to watch her withdrawing and not participating in any activities. And I get to spend thousands of dollars of my own retirement funds for it.
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MiaMoor Mar 12, 2025
Please stop spending your own money, needed for your own old age.
If you're spending it so that your mum can be in the best place possible, then you may need to lower your expectations and standards.
In this situation, you can't aim for perfect, just good enough.
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This sounds like a horrible answer but it could possibly be true....the trailer is too ridden with contamination and it is impossible to clean it up. It has become a health hazzard(state confirmation?)and that you can't allow her live there anymore. Tell her if you let her live there,you could get in big trouble with APS and they could find YOU unfit to be her POA and take away all your rights to be her caregiver. The state would appoint a guardianship to someone else who might not love her as unconditionally as you do. At 86yo, she might understand the phrase, "don't make waves," you're in a good place here! It's going to break both your hearts but it needs to be done.
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Littlewing65 Mar 12, 2025
Thankyou Julia. That's the closest to true answer possible. As I have gone thru drawers etc, mice droppings, carpet stained and hardened by? It is truly a health hazard..
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You convince her by saying that the mobile home isn't there any more. The council required it to be removed or demolished. And genuinely get rid of it!
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Mobile home floors were made of particle board back then, and they soaked up water like a sponge. If your Mom has any water damage her flooring is most likely shot and causing mold.
My aunt had a water damaged trailer, and the only thing keeping us from stepping through the floor was the carpet.
You are keeping her healthy by having her moved out of it.
Tell her it is unfit for habitation, and get rid of it.
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You decide that you need to do what is in her best interest, not abide by what she says. The days of "do not touch anything" are over although she doesn't need to know that.

If or when she gets upset, mad, or anger, realize this is a woman who is frightened and who is losing or lost her independence. Her reaction is fear.

And yes, she may get mad at you. You are in the line of fire, being close to her. This is a natural response. Learn that it is not only okay for her to 'express' her feelings, it is healthy. Learn to have an emotional shield protecting her from her wrath.

When these moments happen, leave for a few minutes (to an hour or the rest of the day) to re-compose yourself emotionally. You already know she is in good hands. How fortunate you are for this care she is receiving.

Take a moment at a time.
Do not future trip.
You can continue to tell her it is temperary.
It is okay to tell her what will keep her as calm and 'happy' as possible.
That she is now being treated like a queen - is something I almost never hear on this site. Your mom is very fortunate, indeed.

Let her talk and think as she wishes. Mostly, enjoy her.
Learn to communicate with reflective listening.

If you get stuck with anything / her questions / anger ... say:

That's a good idea, I'll think about it"
I don't know ... I'll check into it.
You can always deflect 'blame' medical provider. S/he says ...

In other words, you leave the door open to HOPE. It is all she has, and lucky for her, she has you, too. Perhaps in time, she will adjust and make some friends.

* If / as possible, ease her into dining room meals - if she is able to get there.

* Bring / play music ... portable DVDs and CD players are very nice if she might be open to these things.

Gena / Touch Matters
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