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Hi,
I'm sorry that you are going through this. As others have said, find a full time job and save to get your own place as soon as possible. If your mom falls again, call 911 and let them take her to the hospital. Tell them that you can not take care of her. I have been through a similar situation and trying to care for a parent that was not nice to you growing up is hard but I did it for many years until I could not any more. My father is in a facility now. But the years of verbal abuse has really affected me and he still does it now and I'm 55!! You mentioned that she told you that you can't leave due to your financial situation. This is the mindset of my dad. I have never lived with him but he orchestrated a plan to hoard everything in his name so it would hard for him to receive any assistance which he thought would force me to quit my job and move in with him. I recently told him that I was thinking of moving to another town and his response was " You can not afford to move." He also keeps saying recently that he now he needs to keep his house ( he recently wanted to sell) in case I need somewhere to go. Why would I?? I have my own house. I will also add that he also lied to people about me. I know this because some of his friends and family have treated me different. It is awful that a parent would lie on their own child.
Please hang in there and get out now. It will be better for you and her. You can get on with your life and she can get help from medical professionals. Prayer to you!
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There is a different approach to this situation that you and your fiance can take here. It won't be easy.

You say your mother has not left her room since 2023. That's a long time. She stays alive because she's brought food, water, and her care needs are met. So the persons providing there things (you and your fiance) can have the upper hand here.

If her house is the legal residence of you and your fiance, she can't just throw the two of you out. She would have to go through the legal process of eviction. For this to happen she would have to go in person to the housing court, fill out the legal paperwork to evict the two of you, then pay a sheriff to serve you with official eviction Notice to Quit. Then you'd get a certain amount of time to move out.

Think about this. Who would get her down to the courthouse? Who would get a sheriff to serve the two of you with eviction? Who would start feeding, washing, and supplying her with the products she uses if the two of you left? She hasn't left her room in two years. Is she really going to arrange her own homecare? Believe me my friend, none of her friends are going to take on a piece of this mess to help her get rid of the two of you. So don't even worry about that. The next time she starts acting up and is berating you, have your fiance secretly video it with the phone. Then send it to all of her friends with an explanation that this is what you deal with on a daily basis. They will only support her with words. None of them will take any actions against you because then they may have to step in and start caregiving. That isn't going to happen. Let her complain to her friends about you. Who cares? It will come to nothing.

She's dependent on you and your fiance. So set some boundaries here. Block her phone number when you're at work and after a certain hour at home. You are pretty much her only lifeline. Make sure she knows it. When she acts up, close her bedroom door and walk away. Believe me she will run out of the non-perishable food and Depends she keeps in her room. Her bedside toilet will also fill up mighty quick. She'll talk to you then and make her ask for food and supplies and help. This is how you break down the stubbornness and get her behavior in check.

Don't fight with her. Ignore her. I worked with clients like your mother for 25 years (my mother included). How I was able to do this work was by learning to tune out and ignore. Try it.

Then if she refuses put the house in your name or into an Irrevocable Trust with you as Trustee, that's when you and your fiance move out. If there's nothing in it for you, don't stay. If she does this, you'll have to keep her out of AL or a NH for the Medicaid 5-year lookback period. If she doesn't walk away. You and your fiance will make your own life together.
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LakeErie Apr 5, 2025
You cannot simply put someone else's house in another name or a trust.
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For the Bible thumpers here; read Ephesians 6:4 that tells parents not to irritate their children to the point of resentment.

This scripture can apply to caregiving children who choose to stick it out with narcissistic and abusive parents who constantly gaslight and irritate their child to rage and resentment.

I do not believe that God intended for children to be subjected to this type of ongoing abuse for a lifetime.

Get therapy and develop a more realistic approach on how to handle this type of person. Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a real diagnosis.
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MiaMoor Apr 4, 2025
I don't like to bandy about real psychological diagnosis, for which I'm not qualified. However, I'd say that as well as the currently fashionable label of narcissism, the very old-fashioned trait of selfishness is still very real and more widespread than we would like.
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This is the least of everything BUT you do realize that every screaming match becomes part of your personality, your character and is shaping the YOU that will show up in knee jerk reactions to other people, including your fiance and future children. You are practicing crude behavior as long as you are there.
You are being made sick. While you are there (scr.w the house) you will never ever become the lady, the wife, the mom you resent you're not.
You have to flush this toilet life to become the solid, clear thinking, a bit detached, adult you seem to claim you want to be if it weren't for good ole mom.
I'm painfully writing this because you don't need anymore jabs but I can't imagine the circumstances that forced you and your fiance to reach out to such a creature for help. I would've gone to the "Y" before getting into that quick sand. I would've gone out of town to a big church and ask to work as a janitor in exchange for a room and personal time to work and save money.
Forget what she says she is going to give you. She says she's going to leave the house to you, HA. She's manipulating you. RUUUUUNNNNNN. I'm here to tell you it's not worth it, even if it's in writing. You're doomed if you stay there.
I'm deeply sorry that you have such a selfish lazy whale of a mom as that woman. Step back in your mind. Imagine a roll model, someone polished, gentle, wise, not manipulative, a capable woman, giving but not 100% giving inorder for you to learn that you are capable.
Your plans are being delayed by your current situation. There will always be an excuse. You're 31!!! Run like your butts on fire.
She doesn't respect herself and you imagine that she will respect you? Are you on crack? No really. If you are doing anything that alters your mind and is keeping you from what you know is healthy the years will drip by one after another, then the decades and then...you're her. Is she your way to blame someone other than yourself.
Go to school. Get a second job. Help your mom by getting her the phone numbers to resources. Get out. Get out. Get out.
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MiaMoor Apr 4, 2025
This is the best advice for anyone living in a way that's opposite to their own values:

"This is the least of everything BUT you do realize that every screaming match becomes part of your personality, your character and is shaping the YOU that will show up in knee jerk reactions to other people, including your fiance and future children. You are practicing crude behavior as long as you are there."

This on its own should be enough to tell the OP, and anyone else, to not remain in a situation where their true self (or the person they aspire to be) is being systematically eroded.
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How do you get out of the position of caring for her? Real simple (but not so simple) YOU MOVE OUT.
If she is unable to care for herself you give notice to her that you are moving and will no longer care for her.
You could contact Senior Services in your area and find out if she qualifies for assistance. You can also inform the Social Worker that you will be moving and she will be on her own.
You can also report her to APS as a vulnerable, at risk senior.
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"No" is a complete sentence. So is, "Goodbye".
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I hate to be cold, especially when you must be an amazing person to have stayed with your so called mother and to have assisted her this long; however, it's time for you to stop enabling her behavior.

Move out. Then report her to APS. They will do a welfare check and take appropriate actions.

Make no mistake, unless you sign an agreement with your so called mother, you are under no legal obligation to provide care for her. Also, when providing care does this much damage to you, no one in their right mind can argue you have any moral or ethical obligation to support her either.

Good Luck! Remember, life is a very selfish game. If you don't watch out for your own needs, no one will watch out for your needs.
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Your mother is a user and she’s using you. Get out. Whatever the cost. She will not change and you can go down with her if you stay and do nothing.,Your family probably won’t be much help. As others have said, call APS and just go. Go live your own life and don’t look back. What you described was not fair to you. You are not responsible for your mother or other people’s happiness, only yours. It sometimes helps to get away physically for several years. More than 1000 miles. It doesn’t fix everything. But gives you some space to focus on you. Consider it. Being close keeps dragging you into the mess.,
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Step one is to make immediate plans to move out. As long as you are under her roof, you are going to be her slave. So just move out. Tell her you are willing to help her with finding a placement facility, and if she refuses simply say OK and be on your way. Call APS and ignore any pleas for help. Some critical events will be happening soon after that and the chips will fall where they may.
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Before you leave you should go in person to APS and explain in detail your situation. Your mother may make up a bunch of lies about your treatment of her, so you want to prep the social workers before they go in. Let them know you are leaving the home and will not be responsible for her care. Then fly away!
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This is a terrible situation for someone so young to be in. I like the idea of you and your fiancé getting full-time jobs (be very intentional about this—squirrel every bit of cash away that you can—don’t tell your mother—) and rent your own place. If you feel that you would be too sucked back into the gravitational pull of caregiving in the same city or town as your mother, then plan to move further afield. The essential thing is to start. You are sounding powerless. Nothing will make you feel more powerful than to watch your savings balance grow after each paycheque. She is using the unlikely possibility of inheriting the house to keep you there—unhook yourself. The house will likely eventually be sold to pay for her care.

Before you leave, make one call to APS to report a vulnerable adult. That’s it. One call. Then leave. She is no longer a mother to you, but she does sound like a monster who you need to escape from. You can do this. It will not be easy, but it can be done,
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Wait, you moved in knowing what your mom was? She willingly opened her home to you and your shack up and NOW you are crying about how bad she treated you as a child? Grow up and move out.

I can NOT get over how many posters cry about how bad their childhood was, yet, when their adult lives end up in the toilet, right back to the teat they go.

I would have worked a dozen jobs before I would have moved in with either of my parents as an adult.

Who goes back to the sewer? Oh, those that didn't really think it was all that bad, imo.
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Has the original poster ever been back?
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Isthisrealyreal Apr 7, 2025
Not to post from what I see.
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You write: "Since that day, she has not left the room. My fiance and I have cleaned and organized the entire house in order for her to safely move around. It does not matter to her. She does not bathe, or brush her teeth." (and much more).

From my point of view, you are re-acting (out) based on trauma from childhood.

* When you 'connect the dots' (likely with a therapist), you will take back your personal power and realize that you have a choice ... to do as you are (everything for your mother) or set limits / create personal boundaries.

* She will not change.

* You have to change or you will (unfortunately) continue to be in this whirlwind of depression and further lose yourself.

* There is no 'yelling match' if you do not stay in her presence to listen to her. You are choosing to 'stay in this' by not leaving the room, etc.

You likely believe you do not have a choice. You do. You have to learn that you have choices.
* Address why this silent treatment is a trigger for you ... you as a 5 year old being ignored?
* Why not let her 'give you the silent treatment' ? --- this is much better for you if you understand that it gives you a reprieve of the emotional intense volatile situation. You need to reframe how her behavior affects you - it takes a learned / disciplined awareness on your part - to STOP - and access:
- what is going on here
- how am I feeling ...
- how do I want to respond.

The best way might be for you to leave the area for a while (fr minutes to 1/2 day to an entire day) to figure out how you feel. Trauma is very complex and hard to process. It is MESSY. Give yourself a break - or many breaks, mentally and physically, and emotionally.

- Learn to love yourself by understanding what is running you.

* Do not co-mingle your money.

* While maybe extremely hard for you to understand, you are NOT responsible for your mother's welfare or life-style. She is making some or all of her own choices.

* Do not allow the house (left to you) be a carrot on the stick for you to care for her ... it will further / increase / keep your 'feeling power-less' going, and the loss of yourself (anxiety, depression, ovewhelm, breakdown is NOT worth a house).

If she doesn't qualify for a nursing home (due to owning a home), then let her decide how to handle her needs.
You tell her (write it in an official letter/contract) what you will do and won't do.
That she needs to hire caregivers so you have days off.
You tell her that if this this behavior continues, you will:
- leave for a week or move out.
Or you tell her you are moving out.

Hard decisions.

It starts with you and realizing / assessing the qualify of life you want for yourself and you believing what you deserve. Nothing is black and white. Therapy will help you sort this out.

In the interim, do not stay in her presence when these situations start.
Appreciate the 'silent treatment.' It is a time for you to relax, reframe, feel relief.
Get caregiver(s) (SHE PAYS FOR THEM) ... if she decides she doesn't want ... and you are not there, this is her decision. She'll get the picture quick enough.

She needs to know that you are serious with the boundaries you set.
It will be hard for you as this is new behavior and likely counter-to EVERYTHING you think / believe / never considered.

You are not ranting. This is real life and these are very difficult situations to be in. When you share your story, you help many others. You are not alone.

Know that you can set personal boundaries WHILE also being / expressing compassion. It is an awareness. Being a clear communicator - telling her exactly how you feel and what you'll do / not do, and what she needs to do is being compassionate.

Gena / Touch Matters
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